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Having problems with the bolts loosening after one ride Heres what weve been through.
Owned a 2008 rmz 450 Changed from stock to aftermarket after 12 hours or so. Changed the bolts also with one of those
bolt kits. They come with red loctite applied. Loosened up , watched them for a while and they seemed ok. Lost a couple
and trashed out the hub. New hub installed, new sprocket ,bolts, even went back to stock bolts. They would loosen till the
day we sold that bike. New beginning, 2010 rmz 450 stock sprocket needs changing, found three loose. Here we go again.
Changed everything and its happening. Here's some things I've tried. Set to torque. Stiffened them real snug. Tightened
them to the point where I thought I would break them???????? I always hold the bolt with the allen wrench and turn the
nut. Tried washer and no washer.. Thanks
Owned a 2008 rmz 450 Changed from stock to aftermarket after 12 hours or so. Changed the bolts also with one of those
bolt kits. They come with red loctite applied. Loosened up , watched them for a while and they seemed ok. Lost a couple
and trashed out the hub. New hub installed, new sprocket ,bolts, even went back to stock bolts. They would loosen till the
day we sold that bike. New beginning, 2010 rmz 450 stock sprocket needs changing, found three loose. Here we go again.
Changed everything and its happening. Here's some things I've tried. Set to torque. Stiffened them real snug. Tightened
them to the point where I thought I would break them???????? I always hold the bolt with the allen wrench and turn the
nut. Tried washer and no washer.. Thanks
back in the late seventies and these bikes are my sons. Been at it for ten years with him and I'm baffled. Never happened
with any other bike, had about 20 for him even the Suzuki Rm and the RMZ's 250. We use Pro Taper this year and on
the 0 8 were using Renthal. Mx5471 tried the stock ones to no avail. Do you own an RMZ because other people
I talk to they have no problem either? Must be me. X National Wrench your theory is always something I've though
about because the bolt almost looks raised up from the sprocket and then maybe it wears and loosens? Another
thing is the bolt circumferance is not as great as the hole in the hub, I'll try some of the suggestions. Thanks
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If the sprocket gets loose one time it is about done. When the bolts hammer inside the hub they egg shape the holes and the sprocket will not stay tight after that.
I have a 2011 KTM 65 and my kid went riding with some friends for a couple of days and the bike didn't get checked. Bolts got loose, egg shaped the holes in the hub and they wouldn't stay tight. Four rides on a new bike and I bought a new hub.
Also check with a steel rule that youre axle is even in the swingarm. Don't use the tick marks in the swingarm because they aren't that acurate - I have seen cases where the axle is supposedly aligned perfectly with the tick marks, but when measured with a steel rule it was off by 1/16." Doesn't seem like much, but when you figure in the distance the chain travels from sprocket center to center, it can amplify the geomtery to be off by 1/8 to 1/4"
Make sure you're using grade 8 hardware. Blue locktite is all that's needed. Make sure the bolt head is bottomed out in the countersink before your cinch the nut down. Torque to spec while making sure you are applying lots of inward pressure to ensure the bolt head isn't backing out of the countersink. If the bolt head is backing outing, you aren't getting a true torque pressure on both sides. The locknut will be the only part torqued right, but in that scenario it can already move around by the amount the bolt head has backed off. This is the start of how they become loose.
The last thing i usually do is safety wire the locknut on. Use 1 strand of wire after you've properly torqued the nuts down. Place the safety wire on the first visible thread after the locknut. Twist it down tight, cut the twist down to 1/4"" and then bend it over the thread. This can be a lifesaver because even if you still have a locknut loosen, it can only back off up to the safety wire which will prevent you from shearing bolts, sprockets, and hubs. You still need to check them freqeuntly though. I check mine every time I change the oil, which is a pretty good basis.
If you do all the above, you won't have this problem anymore.
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