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Internet usage isn't spelled out in our company policy, either. It's a very small company, and the employer is flexible. In fact, the owner does it himself and we'll trade things we find on the internet regularly, even if it's not work-related. Oh, I'm salary, so I'm not "on the clock".
Next?
If she had the mind to clock the others in, she has the potential to seek legal representation. Be wary and mindful of the unemployment rate today.
I side with you, really. I'm not for stealing but also I understand that others in the office have saved my neck on a number of occasions.
Hey, I sped on the way to work this morning. Uh oh....
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Do you really think I swung the axe on her without trying to determine why she thought is was okay to falsify an employees time card. She was caught with her hands still smoking, but didn't want to believe she got caught.
I'm very aware of the umemployment rate, and I'd never cut anyone off at the knees that didn't have it comng. She could've got away with just being suspended, but refused to accept responsibility. I don't remember being a bad liar and thief being part of her job description.
As for your mediation senerio, my head isn't so big that I don't think it couldn't be a posibility. I guess I'll just have to wait and see if she wants to go that route. My gut feeling she won't.
And you guys have no clue what stealing is, try having your payroll person embezzle over $300k from your business over a 3 year span. Ya that was fun
You said yes................you're still a dick
You were being considerate of her interest, but it's never enough.
Been there done that.
A little honesty would have solved everything.
Odds are this wasn't the first time.
No matter what the boss said or didn't say, unless he specifically told the people to move the furniture as part of their job duties, on the clock, and he himself personally clocked them back in or had someone do it for him, all of them are guilty of stealing from the company. The men doing the furniture moving might not have known they were being clocked back in after 30 minutes, if the business keeps the time cards next to the time clock, but usually with electronic cards the employee keeps the ID card on his person. So they'd have had to give them to the secretary so she could clock them in while they are absent.
To "reason with" the boss that somehow this behavior is excusable is akin to saying there's nothing wrong with Chrysler employees going to the liquor store and park down the street to get drunk and high during the workday.
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Without knowing exactly how the conversation between you and her went when she asked for the favor, it's hard to tell if it was miscommunication or just her taking advantage of your easy going style. I'm leaning towards her taking advantage. She sounds a little manipulative, like many women. Is she hot? How did she get warehouse guys to waste their lunch, risk being late and conspire to fuck you. Like Steve S said, they had to have given her the cards to punch them back in. Did she tell them that you said it was OK? Sounds likely to me. Did you ask them?
Lesson learned hopefully. I have a friend that owns bars. He is an absolute asshole fucking slave driver. If their till is $1 short or $100 short, he takes it out of their pay. Everything has to be done EXACTLY the way he wants it, down to the slightest detail, or they get bawled out. The women that work for him love him. The typical comment is "He sure is an asshole but he really knows how to run a business." They don't ask for favors. The men hate him.
You probably should have said no. Do it after work.
As for the rest of your input, it's your opinion and you're intitled to it.
For some of the other questions;
No she's not hot, and DF75 please have the young lady in your post submit her resume to me.
90smxer: No, there is no video evidence of her, but if I'm understanding you correctly, she could have admitted verbally to myself, HR and signed a statement confessing the the act, yet I'm still screwed? How would a video recording of it help?
The employees do not carry their sliders with them, they are left by the clock. Okay, I can hear your brains grinding, they way the shop is set up it's near impossible for another employee to clock them in without being noticed. She the only one that can roam around freely with out being question.
Borg: I think I said this before, did they plan this in advance or on the fly, I have no idea. Simply it doesn't matter. They clocked out a 12:00 and were clocked back in less then 25 minutes later. When they finally did return, none of them clocked back in. Aranged or on the fly, no idea.
Lastly, am I an dick, asshole, asshole boss, stooge, sucker and whatever else I've been refered to so far? I can only answer that by saying I'm a member at Vital.
As I said the receptionist could have been a huge bitch and this was just the last straw for him. She could have been the reason between a client and the company. Only he knows that. While there is some cathartic release to posting personal items on the interwebs, this thread gave me insight to the type of leadership demonstrated with the last line. "I'll miss her." It sounds to me that ego is what is hurt here, not the stealing or financial loss.
The insurance is a needle in the side, the potential was there to be a problem, the anger makes perfect sense. Most of all I will admit from the outside it's easy for me to say different, and I would like to think I would react differently.
Unless I'm missing something she was loyal to you as an employee for 5 years and you shit on her in a day?
Really?
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