Problems with 09 Crf 450

Insurance Ed
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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 6:01pm
I am thinkin of purchaseing one. I know there has been so issues. Any I need to check out be fore I buy?
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Chris O'Neal
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8/2/2011 9:04am
Cam decompression breaks. Suspension is sketchy.
mattbmx63
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8/2/2011 9:52am
100 hours on mine and no problems. Bad cams were replaced by honda. Never had gas in the oil. Set up suspension and the bike is great.
jtiger12
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8/2/2011 9:55am
you'd be better off asking on thumpertalk ed. honda crf450 forum.

in a nutshell.
1: Linkage may need to be changed, depending on your height, weight, skill level, and riding conditions
2: transmissions are a weak spot, and may possibly fail if you are a fast guys, and hard shifter
3: clutch is pretty much crap for anything other than trail riding
4: the gas in oil problem, caused by a leaking injector
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8/2/2011 9:55am
Don't know much about the 09' but I have friends with the 2010 & 2011 model with zero issues. They both have no complaints

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8/2/2011 9:57am
Love my 09 CRF450! Doesn't take much to get he suspension fixed, fork springs, shock linkage. Fuel controller fixed stalling issue and makes really easy to tune. Recommend Hinson clutch. No gas in the oil for me.
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8/2/2011 10:00am
pretty much what jtiger said with the exception of making sure that the decompression release has been updated.

in stock form the bike isnt so great for most riders, but with a little work it can go from the worse bike you have ridden to the best.

if you weigh less than 200 lbs you will pribably want to get a linkage and revalving, and there are some options out there to fix the 4 bolt clutch issue also.
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8/2/2011 10:05am Edited Date/Time 8/2/2011 10:16am
I'm a Honda guy and have dreamed about one. Bought a left over 09 last year but had to sell it because I didn't like it at all (I realized how crappy it was for me after testing an KX250F 2008).

My complaint was that it stalled way to easy, which could be fixed with diff mapping, and the clutch was horrible. The worst clutch I have ever experienced on a motorcycle as in heavey pull and you only got full release of the plates when the level was touching the handlebar. For me a bad combo. Add the easy stall thing and not the easiest bike to start. Pretty odd that the clutch is also considered shit despite it's so damn hard to pull? The other 450s and older CRF450s have a much lighter pull.

I'm to slow to find the suspension crappy, and the stink bug critique didn't really bother me (as in changing to the PC or FC longer link to reduce the aggressive knifing) other than I newer knew where the bike would pull me out of corners which felt like the bike was in charge of the situation and bikes are stupid.

But as in quality, I think it's ok and I still consider it as the best looking bike in the pit and I really felt bad when I sold it because I wanted it to deliver....
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8/2/2011 11:44am
I added Hinson clutch springs and magura clutch because I got sick of constantly adjusting the clutch. Zero problems now with the clutch. Had Eddie Sisneros remap and it's great now, no more stalling issues and not as touchy just off idle. Fc link, softer rear spring and revolve and it's the beat handling bike I've ridden. I always filter gas and just pulled pump as found zero debris on filter. No valve issues, injector leakage. It's been a great bike and blows away my '08 which I loved.
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8/2/2011 12:14pm Edited Date/Time 8/2/2011 12:14pm
I am thinkin of purchaseing one. I know there has been so issues. Any I need to check out be fore I buy?
Depends on your budget? suspension needs work, needs rear linkage, PC or Factory connection, clutch springs, turn up idle to stop the stalling issue, or remap with a aftermarket pipe, and make sure the recall was done with the decompression pin, contact honda with the VIN and they can tell you if the work has been done or it needs it. Maybe call a local honda dealer parts and give them the vin. The recall work is done free of charge.
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8/2/2011 12:20pm
id stay away from it unless you are fully committed to addressing all the problems. throttle body first, then forks. My oil always smelled of gas, but it didnt hurt the motor. i would at least get the 11 with the smaller throttle body.
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8/2/2011 12:23pm
Some guys like the '09 ECU over the '10 ECU.
Protect the bottom of the frame with a good skidplate.
Run 14/51 gearing on faster tracks with sweeping turns.
Getting the suspension dialed for you will greatly affect the handling.
Pop wheelies.
zlowery
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Worst bike I have ever ridden out of a dealership.

Best bike I have ever ridden after a few escential fixes. Must haves = lowering link, and balanced suspension. Next on the list is an oversided front rotor, pipe, and fuel mapping. And last is high compression piston and head porting.

Had a new 09, then got a leftover 10. Zero problems with either. Had suspension, lowering link, pipe, high compression piston, and front rotor on my 09 and loved it. Got my 10, and tried it out stock on the track, and remembered how bad the bike is stock. I've ridden previous crf450s (05, 06, 07) stock, kx450fs (08,09), and my yz250 stock; without changing anything. (there are nice stock bikes out there) The big selling point for me is that the bike is 10-15 lbs lighter than the competition. And you notice it! Adding power and balance to a bike is easy, subtracting that kind of weight is almost impossible. Or very expensive.
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8/2/2011 12:54pm
Xeno wrote:
Some guys like the '09 ECU over the '10 ECU. Protect the bottom of the frame with a good skidplate. Run 14/51 gearing on faster tracks...
Some guys like the '09 ECU over the '10 ECU.
Protect the bottom of the frame with a good skidplate.
Run 14/51 gearing on faster tracks with sweeping turns.
Getting the suspension dialed for you will greatly affect the handling.
Pop wheelies.
The skidplate thing is no joke, I put holes in the bottom of my frame on the 10 a few hours into riding, cause I was to lazy to grab the skidplate off my 09. Oops. Maybe thats where they shaved all the weight off the bike?
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8/2/2011 1:32pm
I have been thinking about one. I like my suzuki but I have heard when the bike is setup well, it is the best bike hands down. Any thoughts? How is the power after a pipe? Etc etc
mxb2
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8/2/2011 1:49pm Edited Date/Time 8/2/2011 1:50pm
Zycki11 wrote:
I have been thinking about one. I like my suzuki but I have heard when the bike is setup well, it is the best bike hands...
I have been thinking about one. I like my suzuki but I have heard when the bike is setup well, it is the best bike hands down. Any thoughts? How is the power after a pipe? Etc etc
The bike is like night and day difference, I rode a 11 crf 450 stock , and a 11 crf 450 with a fmf 4.1 and remapped with a fmfm programmer. whole new bike way better engine response, but my rmz was the same way! Amazing what a pipe and remapping does.And change the gearing to 13/49, or 14/52 for fast guys.
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Zycki11 wrote:
I have been thinking about one. I like my suzuki but I have heard when the bike is setup well, it is the best bike hands...
I have been thinking about one. I like my suzuki but I have heard when the bike is setup well, it is the best bike hands down. Any thoughts? How is the power after a pipe? Etc etc
mxb2 wrote:
The bike is like night and day difference, I rode a 11 crf 450 stock , and a 11 crf 450 with a fmf 4.1 and...
The bike is like night and day difference, I rode a 11 crf 450 stock , and a 11 crf 450 with a fmf 4.1 and remapped with a fmfm programmer. whole new bike way better engine response, but my rmz was the same way! Amazing what a pipe and remapping does.And change the gearing to 13/49, or 14/52 for fast guys.
I was wondering more about the handling characteristics and how the bike reacts. I struggle with setting up my rmz to handle chop well
mxb2
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IMO my rmz handles way better than the newer crf s . I have an 09 rmz 450, the crf is a lighter feeling and slim, but had some headshake compared to my rmz, but my zook is set up for me, the crf was set up for a fast A rider. I still would get a 2012 rmz 450 over a 2012 crf 450, but both are great bikes.
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Right on thanks bud
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My 09 has the leaking injector problem. It will not turn for crap. It starts ez. It looks great. It has more power than I need, Its hard on sprockets and chains.

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