What is your biggest disappointment in MX ?

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7/27/2011 6:58pm
David Bailey's career ending injury
Danny Chandler's career ending injury
the production rule, which was a result of Yamaha wanting to kill the awesome factory Honda's
4 strokes
not being able to hear the sounds of a full gate of 125's screaming to the first turn....
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7/27/2011 7:15pm
ocscottie wrote:
machine wrote:
Dang Scottie I had no idea. If you don't mind me asking, do you still have decent mobility with all the hardware?
Sure, good mobility from my tits up Cool i am the same injury and level as DB. Check out the blog i wrote in my profile if you havent. Talk about a shitty timeline, Magoo and I were about the same time, then DB 1 year later.
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7/27/2011 7:16pm
News of the type that was received from Ponca City tonight.
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7/27/2011 7:28pm
ocscottie wrote:
machine wrote:
Dang Scottie I had no idea. If you don't mind me asking, do you still have decent mobility with all the hardware?
ocscottie wrote:
Sure, good mobility from my tits up B) i am the same injury and level as DB. Check out the blog i wrote [url=http://www.vitalmx.com/community/ocscottie,405/all]in my profile[/url]...
Sure, good mobility from my tits up Cool i am the same injury and level as DB. Check out the blog i wrote in my profile if you havent. Talk about a shitty timeline, Magoo and I were about the same time, then DB 1 year later.
I just read your profile, man that's tough. I also saw your comment regarding the little girl at Ponca. I always tell people that back when DB got paralyzed that it was almost unheard of for someone to have that severe of an injury and now death is almost becoming commonplace in this sport.

Something needs to be done. I know injuries are part of the sport, but the tracks in my opinion have gotten out of control with the SX type obstacles. Removing them and getting back to a more natural terrain layout would be an easy fix. European tracks are somewhat like that and It seems like it makes a difference.

Thanks for sharing man.

The Shop

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7/27/2011 7:31pm
My biggest disappointment in MX is discovering that it's a hell of a lot harder than it looks.
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7/27/2011 7:55pm Edited Date/Time 7/27/2011 7:55pm
rallendude wrote:
1.) Paralysis, no matter how popular or famous the victim. 2.) Bradshaw never winning a championship 3.) Production rule 4.) Not having a national in the...
1.) Paralysis, no matter how popular or famous the victim.
2.) Bradshaw never winning a championship
3.) Production rule
4.) Not having a national in the SE.....yet.
5.) Pastrana, Cooper, Millsaps, Alessi, Dymond (on big bikes), Bogart, Reynard, etc...guys who never made what it appeared they could have of racing. No disrespect intended.
kripple428 wrote:
If the info posted on your profile is true and you are from Alabama then number 4 is going to change next year have heard from...
If the info posted on your profile is true and you are from Alabama then number 4 is going to change next year have heard from a very good source that alabama is going to have an outdoor national in 2012
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Not really at the top of my biggest disappointment list yet but people that try to turn every damn thread into spam are definitely at the top of the most annoying.
7/27/2011 8:37pm
1. People that can't man up and ride a 4-filthy, or admit that they are not fast enough to ride one and ride a 250f.
2. Pastrana
3. SX only for JS
4. JLAW.
5. Epstein Barr Virus.
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My biggest disappointment is all we do about injuries and deaths is making posts expressing our condolences but as a MX community NOTHING changes to make the sport safer.

Racing is dangerous, it's the Internet that is making us more aware of these accidents, blah, blah, blah.
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7/27/2011 9:10pm Edited Date/Time 7/27/2011 9:11pm
The Rock wrote:
My biggest disappointment is all we do about injuries and deaths is making posts expressing our condolences but as a MX community NOTHING changes to make...
My biggest disappointment is all we do about injuries and deaths is making posts expressing our condolences but as a MX community NOTHING changes to make the sport safer.

Racing is dangerous, it's the Internet that is making us more aware of these accidents, blah, blah, blah.
I'm with you on the safety thing...and making the sport safer.
But,what can really change, Rock?
Less riders in classes?
Better more advanced safety gear?
Toned down slower & tighter tracks?
Also the deaths and permanent injuries happen all to often in practice and also to recreational riders.....
Not sure how it could ever be a safe sport at any level.
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7/28/2011 12:48am
jtomasik wrote:
JS. Naturally, black people have more fast-twitch muscles than us whities who can't jump for shit. If you don't believe it, go read a book. JS...
JS. Naturally, black people have more fast-twitch muscles than us whities who can't jump for shit. If you don't believe it, go read a book. JS should've beat the crap out of the GOAT's records. I guess JS was just too fast for physics.....
Been saying that for years.
7/28/2011 2:17am
The Rock wrote:
My biggest disappointment is all we do about injuries and deaths is making posts expressing our condolences but as a MX community NOTHING changes to make...
My biggest disappointment is all we do about injuries and deaths is making posts expressing our condolences but as a MX community NOTHING changes to make the sport safer.

Racing is dangerous, it's the Internet that is making us more aware of these accidents, blah, blah, blah.
FastEddy wrote:
I'm with you on the safety thing...and making the sport safer. But,what can really change, Rock? Less riders in classes? Better more advanced safety gear? Toned...
I'm with you on the safety thing...and making the sport safer.
But,what can really change, Rock?
Less riders in classes?
Better more advanced safety gear?
Toned down slower & tighter tracks?
Also the deaths and permanent injuries happen all to often in practice and also to recreational riders.....
Not sure how it could ever be a safe sport at any level.
I've mentioned before about chest and back protection,we see so many riders not wearing much of it,Pourcel ran with armour for example,things like this have to help to some extent at least don't they? Or isn't it cool?
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7/28/2011 8:46am Edited Date/Time 7/28/2011 8:48am
The Rock wrote:
My biggest disappointment is all we do about injuries and deaths is making posts expressing our condolences but as a MX community NOTHING changes to make...
My biggest disappointment is all we do about injuries and deaths is making posts expressing our condolences but as a MX community NOTHING changes to make the sport safer.

Racing is dangerous, it's the Internet that is making us more aware of these accidents, blah, blah, blah.
FastEddy wrote:
I'm with you on the safety thing...and making the sport safer. But,what can really change, Rock? Less riders in classes? Better more advanced safety gear? Toned...
I'm with you on the safety thing...and making the sport safer.
But,what can really change, Rock?
Less riders in classes?
Better more advanced safety gear?
Toned down slower & tighter tracks?
Also the deaths and permanent injuries happen all to often in practice and also to recreational riders.....
Not sure how it could ever be a safe sport at any level.
We can never make MX a safe sport but for sure we can definitely make it safer IMO..

I don't believe there is enough data yet to suggest mandatory neck braces but no brainer things like mandatory chest protectors and kidney belts would help significantly. Easiest and most obvious thing we can do is to tone down the jumps plus we shouldn't wait for years to change a section like the Alessi speed bump section at Red Bud.

Since the wooden stakes aren't an issue I think we should actually sharpen those things up. Regal's the only guy who has landed on one so there is no way anyone will ever land on one again.........................................

Seriously I don't understand the resistance to going to the type of stakes the GPs utilize with the covers on them. Can't we have the next title sponsor's logo on those covers?

TripleDigit-You are right chest protectors aren't cool with the current crop of racers. The good news is as the younger riders mature we'll see more chest protectors but the bad news is how many serious injuries and deaths we will see happen needlessly before the new crop of racers are the majority?
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7/28/2011 10:17am
RC getting hurt at Glen Helen 06. To have RC, RV, and JS on the same Des Nations team would have been awesome. Also we would have gotten to see RC race Everts one last time. It was ruined due to that one crash there, which is also the only time in RC's career he pulled out of a race due to injury.
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7/28/2011 10:35am
I wish I had been fast enough to make a living racing.
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7/28/2011 11:52am
I'm not sure why this post is needed when it's a fact it has in a lot of ways, 4's might not be completely ruining the...
I'm not sure why this post is needed when it's a fact it has in a lot of ways, 4's might not be completely ruining the sport but it hasn't exactly helped it either. I'm also not sure why people that are whining about 4's are "idiots" either.

1) 2 Strokes are more fun to ride and have more character then a 4 stroke for fans to watch.

2) 4 strokes are very loud and the sound travels a lot further then 2's causing even more problems for riders depending on where you live or want to ride.

3) 2 strokes sound far better period

4) 4 strokes are more expensive to buy, rebuild and maintain

5) 4 strokes are faster then 2's (better traction, more torque and better throttle control) and have changed the way tracks are built. Sometimes faster is not actually better, this can be said for many other motor sports to over the years.

It was a sad day when 4's became the main bike to use.
5) Oh the irony in saying that. In 2005 F1 was still using V10's and swapping them after every weekend. Then it went to V8's with...
5) Oh the irony in saying that. In 2005 F1 was still using V10's and swapping them after every weekend. Then it went to V8's with a freeze on development and allocated amount per yer. In 2014 they're going to be using 6 cylinder twin turbos! The pinnacle of motorsports realized that power didn't always equal excitement. Forcing drivers and teams to be more conservative did.
Yep F1 is one of the best examples, not only in engines but things like driver aids in the past (traction control, launch control, anti lock brakes etc) Comparing a 250 2 stroke to a 450 4 stroke on a slick track is kinda like having no traction control on the 250 and traction control on the 450, the throttle control and traction on a 450 is a fair bit better.
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4strokes
7/28/2011 12:35pm
Hmmm, not moving to California back in the early 90's
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7/28/2011 1:03pm
"What is your biggest disappointment in MX ?"

Not being able to participate anymore. Just about everything you monkeys post, makes me want to ride...
chuck317
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7/28/2011 3:45pm
selling all ny stuff, quit racing and riding. nothing gives you a rush like when the gate drops
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7/30/2011 7:41am
kripple428 wrote:
If the info posted on your profile is true and you are from Alabama then number 4 is going to change next year have heard from...
If the info posted on your profile is true and you are from Alabama then number 4 is going to change next year have heard from a very good source that alabama is going to have an outdoor national in 2012
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JustMX wrote:
Not really at the top of my biggest disappointment list yet but people that try to turn every damn thread into spam are definitely at the...
Not really at the top of my biggest disappointment list yet but people that try to turn every damn thread into spam are definitely at the top of the most annoying.
read the entire quote. I coudl see how it would be spam if the EVENT WASN'T ALREADY OVER.

They said no nationals in the Southeast, but clearly, there is one.
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7/30/2011 11:41am Edited Date/Time 7/30/2011 11:52am
Pastrana's career in the big bike class

45 second lap times in supercross

Not having all of the races on live TV (we're close though)

Feld

Riders not making enough money

The under/over bridge not at the supercross races anymore as much

All of the "Bro's" that this sport attracts

No more live webcast for the supercross races
JustMX
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Jharper wrote:
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JustMX wrote:
Not really at the top of my biggest disappointment list yet but people that try to turn every damn thread into spam are definitely at the...
Not really at the top of my biggest disappointment list yet but people that try to turn every damn thread into spam are definitely at the top of the most annoying.
Jharper wrote:
read the entire quote. I coudl see how it would be spam if the EVENT WASN'T ALREADY OVER. They said no nationals in the Southeast, but...
read the entire quote. I coudl see how it would be spam if the EVENT WASN'T ALREADY OVER.

They said no nationals in the Southeast, but clearly, there is one.
oh,

I am sorry.

I didn't realize the only criteria for having a "National" is to simply call it one.

There are sure going to be a lot of track owners having a "DOH!" moment.

I think I will have a national next weekend.

Spread the word.
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Not buying a new 09 honda 450 when they were 4800$. Sad

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