Any truth to the RD1 to Big Red rumor?

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I said on Sunday that I heard from someone at the KTM dealer show that is going on right now in millville that Dungy is going to KTM.
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ktm764 wrote:
I said on Sunday that I heard from someone at the KTM dealer show that is going on right now in millville that Dungy is going...
I said on Sunday that I heard from someone at the KTM dealer show that is going on right now in millville that Dungy is going to KTM.
I hope it's true.
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I don't see JGR going to Honda, they're Toyota's #1 NASCAR team and throw money at the Motocross efforts. You'll never see Toyota sticker on a...
I don't see JGR going to Honda, they're Toyota's #1 NASCAR team and throw money at the Motocross efforts. You'll never see Toyota sticker on a Honda bike
could be that suzuki is also going to get out of a 450 works team and go the yamaha route. therefore JGR could be going to a suzuki support team format (like yamaha is now) and not trying to pull in honda.
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Highsider wrote:
Heck, haven't you guys heard??
RD is headed to JGR and who knows, they may be on Hondas in 2012.Cool
That's actually a good point, JGR have openly said they are going after Dungey as well as talking to other manufactures for 2012......
it's not going to be hondas if they switch brands. It would conflict with there Toyota sponsorship.

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I am going to be very surprised if it's not to KTM.
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At least if Dungey does go to KTM he can prove to everyone what a turd the 350 is in the pro races. It (350) could be good for am races but obviously not the pros.
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gotwings wrote:
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed...
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed contract for 2012, put-a-fork-in-it. Couldn't say for what team, though. Blowing smoke?

Anyone heard anything???
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
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gotwings wrote:
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed...
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed contract for 2012, put-a-fork-in-it. Couldn't say for what team, though. Blowing smoke?

Anyone heard anything???
BobbyM wrote:
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history... and most of you will be...
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
When the F did Jlaw merge with RC?
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BobbyM wrote:
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history... and most of you will be...
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
"...one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history..."

There aren't many racers running around at the moment who fit both those criteria, although there are quite a few more who only fit one of them...
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this thread is "gripping" [img]http://zensiert.to/media/1/4chan-1308092628818.gif[/img]
this thread is "gripping"

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6/28/2011 8:28pm
gotwings wrote:
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed...
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed contract for 2012, put-a-fork-in-it. Couldn't say for what team, though. Blowing smoke?

Anyone heard anything???
BobbyM wrote:
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history... and most of you will be...
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
hated yes, decorated? Maybe not so much.
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I know this may be stretching it a bit, but I can see Dungey staying on a zook. The difference will be in the team. I think him and JS could be riding together. They would get factory bikes and each could run their own separate sponsors.

IF that were to happen, there would be a lot of money tossed around.
6/28/2011 8:51pm
There's going to be a lot of rumors* and reasons why each makes sense (except maybe a Kawi rumor*) until RD pulls the trigger. (* That'd...
There's going to be a lot of rumors* and reasons why each makes sense (except maybe a Kawi rumor*) until RD pulls the trigger.









(* That'd be rumours for our boys here with a Queen on their money.)
Yeah, well, our money's worth more than your money, so there.
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6/29/2011 12:08am Edited Date/Time 6/29/2011 12:10am
gotwings wrote:
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed...
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed contract for 2012, put-a-fork-in-it. Couldn't say for what team, though. Blowing smoke?

Anyone heard anything???
BobbyM wrote:
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history... and most of you will be...
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
UpTiTe wrote:
hated yes, decorated? Maybe not so much.
hated and decorated?

lets examine this.....


bobby said he'd be "riding for" not "riding with".....and since bubba is the obvious person that comes to mind when thinking hated/decorated then JSE fits the bill when saying, "riding for".

but when saying "riding for" that also leaves the door open for it to be any hated/decorated racer in the sports history.

deegan is trying to start a team.

hated?...check.
decorated?.....well, with xgames medals.
he did race mx/sx at one time


i just cant see metal mulisha and dungey even remotely mixing. but it does fit bobby's description.....sorta.


i cant think of anyone else who owns or is involved in a team that has been decorated/hated other than bubba and deegan. anyone else im forgetting?


reed was hated at one time. heard plenty of boos at anaheim. twotwo was in the running.
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It would be way better than signing with KTM.
Would have to agree with that one. HONDA>KTM
At one time I'd tag along, but today I think they're pretty equal, and within a few years I think it will be KTM>Honda.
Yamaha make more money selling Piano's than KTM do selling motorcycles - Honda are the biggest engine manufacturer in the world -
Honda has been the world's largest motorcycle manufacturer since 1959 -

Total Honda USA 2010 Sales = 1,230,480 Units
Global 2009 = 14,823,000
Global 2008 = 15,392,000

KTM with total production for 2009 at approximately 174,000 units

So KTM>Honda - KTM would have to grow by a multiple of about 90 - Ie Honda = KTM X 90

And economic growth being not bigger than 10% . A few years would be a few 100 years .. :-)
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BobbyM wrote:
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history... and most of you will be...
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
UpTiTe wrote:
hated yes, decorated? Maybe not so much.
Mod Killer wrote:
hated and decorated? lets examine this..... bobby said he'd be "riding for" not "riding with".....and since bubba is the obvious person that comes to mind when...
hated and decorated?

lets examine this.....


bobby said he'd be "riding for" not "riding with".....and since bubba is the obvious person that comes to mind when thinking hated/decorated then JSE fits the bill when saying, "riding for".

but when saying "riding for" that also leaves the door open for it to be any hated/decorated racer in the sports history.

deegan is trying to start a team.

hated?...check.
decorated?.....well, with xgames medals.
he did race mx/sx at one time


i just cant see metal mulisha and dungey even remotely mixing. but it does fit bobby's description.....sorta.


i cant think of anyone else who owns or is involved in a team that has been decorated/hated other than bubba and deegan. anyone else im forgetting?


reed was hated at one time. heard plenty of boos at anaheim. twotwo was in the running.
would you like some pliers to remove that hook sticking out of your left cheek sir?
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VRR7 wrote:
Yamaha make more money selling Piano's than KTM do selling motorcycles - Honda are the biggest engine manufacturer in the world - Honda has been the...
Yamaha make more money selling Piano's than KTM do selling motorcycles - Honda are the biggest engine manufacturer in the world -
Honda has been the world's largest motorcycle manufacturer since 1959 -

Total Honda USA 2010 Sales = 1,230,480 Units
Global 2009 = 14,823,000
Global 2008 = 15,392,000

KTM with total production for 2009 at approximately 174,000 units

So KTM>Honda - KTM would have to grow by a multiple of about 90 - Ie Honda = KTM X 90

And economic growth being not bigger than 10% . A few years would be a few 100 years .. :-)
Do you happen to have the data for motocross bikes only? I'm guessing you're quoting on and off-road bikes. I'm sure there's a Chinese scooter company selling more than anybody.
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gotwings wrote:
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed...
I know, I know, this sounds suspect, but a industry guy told me that "someone in the know" told him that it's a done deal, signed contract for 2012, put-a-fork-in-it. Couldn't say for what team, though. Blowing smoke?

Anyone heard anything???
BobbyM wrote:
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history... and most of you will be...
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
UpTiTe wrote:
hated yes, decorated? Maybe not so much.
No shit. I would like to see his justification for "decorated" racer. Manager, maybe, racer, no.
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VRR7 wrote:
Yamaha make more money selling Piano's than KTM do selling motorcycles - Honda are the biggest engine manufacturer in the world - Honda has been the...
Yamaha make more money selling Piano's than KTM do selling motorcycles - Honda are the biggest engine manufacturer in the world -
Honda has been the world's largest motorcycle manufacturer since 1959 -

Total Honda USA 2010 Sales = 1,230,480 Units
Global 2009 = 14,823,000
Global 2008 = 15,392,000

KTM with total production for 2009 at approximately 174,000 units

So KTM>Honda - KTM would have to grow by a multiple of about 90 - Ie Honda = KTM X 90

And economic growth being not bigger than 10% . A few years would be a few 100 years .. :-)
Do you happen to have the data for motocross bikes only? I'm guessing you're quoting on and off-road bikes. I'm sure there's a Chinese scooter company...
Do you happen to have the data for motocross bikes only? I'm guessing you're quoting on and off-road bikes. I'm sure there's a Chinese scooter company selling more than anybody.
2011 Q1 Sales figures

Motocross

Yamaha YZ450F 269 -29.6%
Yamaha YZ250F 253 +4.1%
Honda CRF250R 238 -19%
Honda CRF450R 192 +39.1%
Suzuki RM-Z250 187 -4.6%
Kawasaki KX250F 167 -20.9%
Suzuki Rm-Z450 131 +29.7%
Kawasaki KX450F 116 -19.4%
KTM 350SXF 114
KTM 65SX 83 -3.5%


Dirtbikes by brand

Yamaha 2204 -7.7%
Suzuki 1210 +11.1%
Honda 1196 -18.8%
KTM 849 -13.6%
Kawasaki 691 -6.2%
Husqvarna 519 +10.2%
Husaberg 167 +17.6%
Aprilia 0



Chinese Sales
2008 27M
2009 25M
2010 26M
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VRR7 wrote:
Yamaha make more money selling Piano's than KTM do selling motorcycles - Honda are the biggest engine manufacturer in the world - Honda has been the...
Yamaha make more money selling Piano's than KTM do selling motorcycles - Honda are the biggest engine manufacturer in the world -
Honda has been the world's largest motorcycle manufacturer since 1959 -

Total Honda USA 2010 Sales = 1,230,480 Units
Global 2009 = 14,823,000
Global 2008 = 15,392,000

KTM with total production for 2009 at approximately 174,000 units

So KTM>Honda - KTM would have to grow by a multiple of about 90 - Ie Honda = KTM X 90

And economic growth being not bigger than 10% . A few years would be a few 100 years .. :-)
Do you happen to have the data for motocross bikes only? I'm guessing you're quoting on and off-road bikes. I'm sure there's a Chinese scooter company...
Do you happen to have the data for motocross bikes only? I'm guessing you're quoting on and off-road bikes. I'm sure there's a Chinese scooter company selling more than anybody.
VRR7 wrote:
2011 Q1 Sales figures Motocross Yamaha YZ450F 269 -29.6% Yamaha YZ250F 253 +4.1% Honda CRF250R 238 -19% Honda CRF450R 192 +39.1% Suzuki RM-Z250 187 -4.6% Kawasaki...
2011 Q1 Sales figures

Motocross

Yamaha YZ450F 269 -29.6%
Yamaha YZ250F 253 +4.1%
Honda CRF250R 238 -19%
Honda CRF450R 192 +39.1%
Suzuki RM-Z250 187 -4.6%
Kawasaki KX250F 167 -20.9%
Suzuki Rm-Z450 131 +29.7%
Kawasaki KX450F 116 -19.4%
KTM 350SXF 114
KTM 65SX 83 -3.5%


Dirtbikes by brand

Yamaha 2204 -7.7%
Suzuki 1210 +11.1%
Honda 1196 -18.8%
KTM 849 -13.6%
Kawasaki 691 -6.2%
Husqvarna 519 +10.2%
Husaberg 167 +17.6%
Aprilia 0



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Australian Figures !!!!
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Australian Figures !!!!
They do love him Chad there...Wink Cool Whistling
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Do you happen to have the data for motocross bikes only? I'm guessing you're quoting on and off-road bikes. I'm sure there's a Chinese scooter company...
Do you happen to have the data for motocross bikes only? I'm guessing you're quoting on and off-road bikes. I'm sure there's a Chinese scooter company selling more than anybody.
VRR7 wrote:
2011 Q1 Sales figures Motocross Yamaha YZ450F 269 -29.6% Yamaha YZ250F 253 +4.1% Honda CRF250R 238 -19% Honda CRF450R 192 +39.1% Suzuki RM-Z250 187 -4.6% Kawasaki...
2011 Q1 Sales figures

Motocross

Yamaha YZ450F 269 -29.6%
Yamaha YZ250F 253 +4.1%
Honda CRF250R 238 -19%
Honda CRF450R 192 +39.1%
Suzuki RM-Z250 187 -4.6%
Kawasaki KX250F 167 -20.9%
Suzuki Rm-Z450 131 +29.7%
Kawasaki KX450F 116 -19.4%
KTM 350SXF 114
KTM 65SX 83 -3.5%


Dirtbikes by brand

Yamaha 2204 -7.7%
Suzuki 1210 +11.1%
Honda 1196 -18.8%
KTM 849 -13.6%
Kawasaki 691 -6.2%
Husqvarna 519 +10.2%
Husaberg 167 +17.6%
Aprilia 0



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2009 25M
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VRR7 wrote:
Australian Figures !!!!
U.S. Motorcycle Market

The U.S. motorcycle market is worth $14.6 billion (2007) and is expected to reach $21 billion by 2011. (1)

http://knol.google.com/k/the-u-s-motorcycle-market#


USA Figures

Motorcycles:

Harley-Davidson 28%
Honda 25%
Yamaha 17%
Suzuki 13%
Kawasaki 11%
KTM 2%
BMW 1%
Triumph 1%
Ducati 1%
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Honda ( 18 million ) V KTM ( 85,543 units ) - RD1 to Honda would be good for RD1 if he gets a team around him that gels !

Honda produced more than 18 million motorcycles and ATVs in 2010. The Japanese giant released its global production and sales data for the past calendar year, with record-breaking numbers in many categories. Fueling the numbers were increases in the high-volume Asian market. Honda’s North American sales, which include the U.S., Canada and Mexico, decreased from 210,000 to 192,000, a decline of 8.6%.

KTM reported a return to profitability in its fiscal report covering the period from Sept. 1, 2009 to Dec. 31, 2010.

KTM’s latest fiscal report covers 16 months as the Austrian company realigns its fiscal year to match the calendar year, so direct year-on-year comparisons can be misleading. Nevertheless, KTM’s fiscal report can be described as positive with a net profit of 14.0 million euros (US$19.7 million) compared to a loss of 81.4 million euros (US$114.7) announced from its previous fiscal report.

Vehicle sales, including motorcycles, sport minicycles, ATVs and the KTM X-Bow, totaled 85,543 units, a 33.5% increase from the 64,080 units sold from Sept. 1, 2008-Oct. 31, 2009. Off-road motorcycles remain KTM’s specialty with 54,838 units sold, up 50.9% from the previous fiscal report’s 36,331 units. KTM street bikes rose a more modest 19% to 18,531 units from 15,528 units.

North American sales totaled 113.4 million euros (US$159.8 million), up 28% from 88.6 million euros (US$124.7 million). The U.S. remains KTM’s largest single market, representing 18.1% of total sales revenue, followed by France at 10.1%, Italy at 9.7% and Germany at 9.1%.
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BobbyM wrote:
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history... and most of you will be...
it's true...he'll be riding for one of the most hated and one of the most decorated racers in mx/sx history...

and most of you will be lapping it up like a dog on the streets in the summertime heat.

bookmark this post right now...trust me.
So Brooks will turn him into an ass just like he did with Reed and JS7?

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