Ryno vs Lapaglia

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downandup 6/27/2011 10:13am
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No wonder Jessica Patterson gets in fights, look at who trains her!
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Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat...
Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.

And the helmet deal? I'd be happy to have someone leave their helmet on if they came at me. Heads the easiest way to control another person...that face mask is a nice handle to grab on to. But those darn visors could cut the shit out of you.
EXACTLY!!!
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LOL!, my niece would beat both of their asses!
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He admitted he messed up. Time to move on.

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Is it bad that i was enjoying the 2-strokes reving in the background of this video?
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Ryno on the pulp show tonight... Someone who knows LaPaglia please have him call in for a verbal round 2!
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Lapaglia should of not even thrown a punch,should of just head butted him with the helmet on. Fight,I have always liked Ryno but he really made...
Lapaglia should of not even thrown a punch,should of just head butted him with the helmet on.

Fight,I have always liked Ryno but he really made himself look bad
1. Causing the fight
2.Getting choked out almost
3.Crying about MLp-he hit me first
4.Dirty mouth

Not good at all for our sport,all the way around.
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lapaglia kicks his tire lapaglia calls him a fucker lapaglia tells him he could take him out if he really wants too lapaglia has prior beef...
lapaglia kicks his tire

lapaglia calls him a fucker

lapaglia tells him he could take him out if he really wants too

lapaglia has prior beef with ryno



all of that happened before ryno started getting aggressive. i dont think many of you realize how intense ryno is just in normal conversation. so it comes off as very aggressive. lapaglia knows ryno enough to know how ryan is. there was nothing lost in translation.


then....ryno tells ML "whatever, i beat you by 30 seconds".........i cannot believe all the people who think that is the biggest dick move ryno could say. not that big a deal. the incident should have ended there imo.


eventually things get even more heated and again, ML calls ryno a pussy. that starts the physical fight. ML could have walked away after the "30 second line" but he didnt. he had to bring up so BS about money owed to his dad. boo hoo.

as for who threw the first punch. save that bullshit. if youre gonna go toe to toe, ML should not be held against him for getting the first punch off. ryno wanted to fight after the "pussy" line. no claiming "he hit me first".


ryno took lapaglia down. and like said before, thats how 99% of most fights look. for all the people who think ryno is a bitch, in the same scenario, i doubt you let things escalate to that point knowing he is ready to fight so easily. even if he does suck at it. most people would just rather avoid fighting.


funny how nobody broke things up until lapaglia was on top. funnier was lapaglia's chic in the background screaming. gold.



fighting is human nature. stop pusifiying things america. its not bad for the sport. its just men being men. it happens. its a primal instinct that gets real results. alleviates issues between people and more often than not settles scores before they escalate to something worse. i doubt they go at it on the track tomorrow knowing both are ready to scrap. they both have a new found respect for each other on some level tho neither will ever admit it. had they not fought, they would have taken it to the track which would have been even more dangerous.

id be suprised if anything goes down tomorrow. really surprised. but no less entertained.
That is how I saw it to.......All of that was on Lapaglia. And he sure as hell did not do any ass kicking, on or off the track. All in all, racing incident Grinning
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You guys that put it all on Lapaglia are blind. Ryno went full psycho cause he knew what Lapaglia was calling him out on was legit, most people get defensive when they know they are caught. As I mentioned before I have seen Ryno get out of hand like this before and threaten race officials and then fight his mechanic, the dude is a loser and the sport would not be missing a thing if he just disappeared...
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For those of you who are saying that Ryno isn't tough, you shouldn't forget that he broke his leg at southwick in the first moto, and actually passed a few people at the end of the moto. He came back and raced the second moto and scored points as well. Broken leg, two motos, southwick. He's tough as nails.
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dehner47 wrote:
adrenaline, passion and a racers ego = stupid mistakes.. we all have done it. were all guilty of it. and im sure we all will do...
adrenaline, passion and a racers ego = stupid mistakes..

we all have done it. were all guilty of it. and im sure we all will do it again..

im still a Ryno fan. and now and a Lapaglia fan too..
word!
muGz.147 6/27/2011 12:40pm
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This silly bullshhhhh reminds me of one of my all time fav movies....

"Look, man, I got it all planned out. Most fights in places like this never get past a punch or two before they're broken up, know what I'm saying? There's almost a natural instinct not to upset the herd. So all I have to do is get in one good punch, play defense and wait."


http://clip.ly/et6XCy
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muGz.147 wrote:
This silly bullshhhhh reminds me of one of my all time fav movies.... [b]"Look, man, I got it all planned out. Most fights in places like...
This silly bullshhhhh reminds me of one of my all time fav movies....

"Look, man, I got it all planned out. Most fights in places like this never get past a punch or two before they're broken up, know what I'm saying? There's almost a natural instinct not to upset the herd. So all I have to do is get in one good punch, play defense and wait."


http://clip.ly/et6XCy
One of my all time favorite movies....!

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muGz.147 wrote:
This silly bullshhhhh reminds me of one of my all time fav movies.... [b]"Look, man, I got it all planned out. Most fights in places like...
This silly bullshhhhh reminds me of one of my all time fav movies....

"Look, man, I got it all planned out. Most fights in places like this never get past a punch or two before they're broken up, know what I'm saying? There's almost a natural instinct not to upset the herd. So all I have to do is get in one good punch, play defense and wait."


http://clip.ly/et6XCy
Sondy132001 wrote:
One of my all time favorite movies....!

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txmxer wrote:
Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat...
Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.

And the helmet deal? I'd be happy to have someone leave their helmet on if they came at me. Heads the easiest way to control another person...that face mask is a nice handle to grab on to. But those darn visors could cut the shit out of you.
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.


Wait what? What makes you think that Mike? I think once you have put in a few years of consistent training, meaning a least a few times a week with full contact sparring you will definitely be applying what you have drilled in your head hundreds of times.
I have two buddies that I train with that have both ended a street fight with one kick, one was a head kick and the other was a body kick. If you are extensively trained and you use it in a street fight it is highly frowned upon in every MMA gym, unless someone is threatening you or you are helping someone else who is being threatened. In both cases my buddies were being threatened. Maybe you mean guys that are relatively new to the sport, then I would agree with you.
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in...
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.


Wait what? What makes you think that Mike? I think once you have put in a few years of consistent training, meaning a least a few times a week with full contact sparring you will definitely be applying what you have drilled in your head hundreds of times.
I have two buddies that I train with that have both ended a street fight with one kick, one was a head kick and the other was a body kick. If you are extensively trained and you use it in a street fight it is highly frowned upon in every MMA gym, unless someone is threatening you or you are helping someone else who is being threatened. In both cases my buddies were being threatened. Maybe you mean guys that are relatively new to the sport, then I would agree with you.
Anything is possible...but, it usually doesn't work out that way.

Street fighting doesn't have moves and counters. I'm not saying the average joe has an advantage over the person that trains to fight--definitely not. Just that it's a different ballgame. It's not a game. Lots of good fighters have been jacked up in street fights.

There's much more randomness to the street fight.

I trained and even taught martial arts years ago. Throwing a kick is usually a bad idea. That said, I know of two incidences with some good fighters--same thing. One was a body kick, the other a head kick. Still, delivering those kicks in a street fighting situation is a gamble most of the time.
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RealityZ 6/27/2011 2:29pm
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txmxer wrote:
Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat...
Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.

And the helmet deal? I'd be happy to have someone leave their helmet on if they came at me. Heads the easiest way to control another person...that face mask is a nice handle to grab on to. But those darn visors could cut the shit out of you.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in...
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.


Wait what? What makes you think that Mike? I think once you have put in a few years of consistent training, meaning a least a few times a week with full contact sparring you will definitely be applying what you have drilled in your head hundreds of times.
I have two buddies that I train with that have both ended a street fight with one kick, one was a head kick and the other was a body kick. If you are extensively trained and you use it in a street fight it is highly frowned upon in every MMA gym, unless someone is threatening you or you are helping someone else who is being threatened. In both cases my buddies were being threatened. Maybe you mean guys that are relatively new to the sport, then I would agree with you.
Training for MMA and streetfighting are technically the same disciplne fighting. Only you can bring weapons to a streetfight. Thats why MMA guys never win streetfights, they cant adapt their MMA technique into a streetfight. THerefore streetfighting is much more difficult than MMA.

If one of your buddies tried kicking me I'd block with my right hand, locky with my left arm and inside trip. MMA guys bring their techniques to streetfighting all the time and get their assez handed to them. FACT.
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in...
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.


Wait what? What makes you think that Mike? I think once you have put in a few years of consistent training, meaning a least a few times a week with full contact sparring you will definitely be applying what you have drilled in your head hundreds of times.
I have two buddies that I train with that have both ended a street fight with one kick, one was a head kick and the other was a body kick. If you are extensively trained and you use it in a street fight it is highly frowned upon in every MMA gym, unless someone is threatening you or you are helping someone else who is being threatened. In both cases my buddies were being threatened. Maybe you mean guys that are relatively new to the sport, then I would agree with you.
txmxer wrote:
Anything is possible...but, it usually doesn't work out that way. Street fighting doesn't have moves and counters. I'm not saying the average joe has an advantage...
Anything is possible...but, it usually doesn't work out that way.

Street fighting doesn't have moves and counters. I'm not saying the average joe has an advantage over the person that trains to fight--definitely not. Just that it's a different ballgame. It's not a game. Lots of good fighters have been jacked up in street fights.

There's much more randomness to the street fight.

I trained and even taught martial arts years ago. Throwing a kick is usually a bad idea. That said, I know of two incidences with some good fighters--same thing. One was a body kick, the other a head kick. Still, delivering those kicks in a street fighting situation is a gamble most of the time.
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street fighter, MMA fighter or a drunk dude in the bar.. 75% of fights are won by the guy who hits his opponent first or the guy who hits his oppenent more times then being hit himself..

and yes i also train MMA.. been doing martial arts since i was 12 yrs old.. now 31.. Tang Soo Do and BJJ..

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txmxer wrote:
Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat...
Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.

And the helmet deal? I'd be happy to have someone leave their helmet on if they came at me. Heads the easiest way to control another person...that face mask is a nice handle to grab on to. But those darn visors could cut the shit out of you.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in...
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.


Wait what? What makes you think that Mike? I think once you have put in a few years of consistent training, meaning a least a few times a week with full contact sparring you will definitely be applying what you have drilled in your head hundreds of times.
I have two buddies that I train with that have both ended a street fight with one kick, one was a head kick and the other was a body kick. If you are extensively trained and you use it in a street fight it is highly frowned upon in every MMA gym, unless someone is threatening you or you are helping someone else who is being threatened. In both cases my buddies were being threatened. Maybe you mean guys that are relatively new to the sport, then I would agree with you.
RealityZ wrote:
Training for MMA and streetfighting are technically the same disciplne fighting. Only you can bring weapons to a streetfight. Thats why MMA guys never win streetfights...
Training for MMA and streetfighting are technically the same disciplne fighting. Only you can bring weapons to a streetfight. Thats why MMA guys never win streetfights, they cant adapt their MMA technique into a streetfight. THerefore streetfighting is much more difficult than MMA.

If one of your buddies tried kicking me I'd block with my right hand, locky with my left arm and inside trip. MMA guys bring their techniques to streetfighting all the time and get their assez handed to them. FACT.
If one of your buddies tried kicking me I'd block with my right hand, locky with my left arm and inside trip. MMA guys bring their techniques to streetfighting all the time and get their assez handed to them. FACT.


Not a chance.
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mma and streetfighting are completely different.


one has rules, one doesnt. it changes everything. one is about discipline, and the other rewards "crazy".


good streetfighters arent good mma guys, and vice versa. not that one cant train to be the other. but just cause you can mma fight, doesnt mean you are automatically the favorite in a streetfight.


for all you who claim to train in mma gyms, i dont know who you train with but ive never once heard a mma guy say that he's comfortable in a streetfight. and i used to train with josh barnett, former UFC heavyweight champ. among others.
muGz.147 6/27/2011 3:22pm
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"I'm training to become a cage fighter"

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All you MMA trainees are cracking me up. You don't even know the first rule of fight club.....


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MMA is streetfighting with rules...there
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Mod Killer wrote:
mma and streetfighting are completely different. one has rules, one doesnt. it changes everything. one is about discipline, and the other rewards "crazy". good streetfighters arent...
mma and streetfighting are completely different.


one has rules, one doesnt. it changes everything. one is about discipline, and the other rewards "crazy".


good streetfighters arent good mma guys, and vice versa. not that one cant train to be the other. but just cause you can mma fight, doesnt mean you are automatically the favorite in a streetfight.


for all you who claim to train in mma gyms, i dont know who you train with but ive never once heard a mma guy say that he's comfortable in a streetfight. and i used to train with josh barnett, former UFC heavyweight champ. among others.
I trained with Ryan Hughes in 08' , he's a dirt fighter
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Mod Killer wrote:
mma and streetfighting are completely different. one has rules, one doesnt. it changes everything. one is about discipline, and the other rewards "crazy". good streetfighters arent...
mma and streetfighting are completely different.


one has rules, one doesnt. it changes everything. one is about discipline, and the other rewards "crazy".


good streetfighters arent good mma guys, and vice versa. not that one cant train to be the other. but just cause you can mma fight, doesnt mean you are automatically the favorite in a streetfight.


for all you who claim to train in mma gyms, i dont know who you train with but ive never once heard a mma guy say that he's comfortable in a streetfight. and i used to train with josh barnett, former UFC heavyweight champ. among others.
One on one, no weapons. The guy who consistently trains slipping and blocking punches from all angles, throwing crisp fast, accurate punches, knees, elbows, power kicks and combos, grappling, submissions, footwork and speed will have a huge advantage over the guy who trains nothing. Its a ridiculous argument.


Enter weapons and sucker punches from behind and its a whole different game.
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Why does MMA even exist? Boxing was not violent enough to satisfy the unbalanced tough guy types so we had to have MMA to appease them?
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gsxrcr28 wrote:
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in...
txmxer wrote: Training for MMA and street fighting are not the same thing. Not even close. You won't see many guys that can actually deliver in the heat of a fight what they practice in the gym.


Wait what? What makes you think that Mike? I think once you have put in a few years of consistent training, meaning a least a few times a week with full contact sparring you will definitely be applying what you have drilled in your head hundreds of times.
I have two buddies that I train with that have both ended a street fight with one kick, one was a head kick and the other was a body kick. If you are extensively trained and you use it in a street fight it is highly frowned upon in every MMA gym, unless someone is threatening you or you are helping someone else who is being threatened. In both cases my buddies were being threatened. Maybe you mean guys that are relatively new to the sport, then I would agree with you.
txmxer wrote:
Anything is possible...but, it usually doesn't work out that way. Street fighting doesn't have moves and counters. I'm not saying the average joe has an advantage...
Anything is possible...but, it usually doesn't work out that way.

Street fighting doesn't have moves and counters. I'm not saying the average joe has an advantage over the person that trains to fight--definitely not. Just that it's a different ballgame. It's not a game. Lots of good fighters have been jacked up in street fights.

There's much more randomness to the street fight.

I trained and even taught martial arts years ago. Throwing a kick is usually a bad idea. That said, I know of two incidences with some good fighters--same thing. One was a body kick, the other a head kick. Still, delivering those kicks in a street fighting situation is a gamble most of the time.
I agree with this. One of our bouncers was stupid enough to pull guard and got hurt.

Its very very risky. I'd only engage in a fight if my, or my friends or family was in real danger.
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Ryno needs to get over himself, he is a whiner, remember the TGO when he was all upset about Bubba running it on on him. Good on Lapaglia for standing up to him.
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It's a good job Lapaglia didn't headbutt Ryno with his helmet on!Shocked Bet those troy lee visors would leave a lasting impression on someone's forehead!Wink Laughing Laughing
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Mod Killer 6/27/2011 4:06pm
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Mod Killer wrote:
mma and streetfighting are completely different. one has rules, one doesnt. it changes everything. one is about discipline, and the other rewards "crazy". good streetfighters arent...
mma and streetfighting are completely different.


one has rules, one doesnt. it changes everything. one is about discipline, and the other rewards "crazy".


good streetfighters arent good mma guys, and vice versa. not that one cant train to be the other. but just cause you can mma fight, doesnt mean you are automatically the favorite in a streetfight.


for all you who claim to train in mma gyms, i dont know who you train with but ive never once heard a mma guy say that he's comfortable in a streetfight. and i used to train with josh barnett, former UFC heavyweight champ. among others.
gsxrcr28 wrote:
One on one, no weapons. The guy who consistently trains slipping and blocking punches from all angles, throwing crisp fast, accurate punches, knees, elbows, power kicks...
One on one, no weapons. The guy who consistently trains slipping and blocking punches from all angles, throwing crisp fast, accurate punches, knees, elbows, power kicks and combos, grappling, submissions, footwork and speed will have a huge advantage over the guy who trains nothing. Its a ridiculous argument.


Enter weapons and sucker punches from behind and its a whole different game.
ummmm.......your first paragraph doesnt describe a typical streetfight. you last sentence does. thus the reason you cant compare streetfighting to mma.

believe it or not, this was a topic that was brought up often and discussed for shits and giggles.




comparing mma to streetfighting is as useless as comparing mma to boxing...or boxing to streetfighting for that matter.

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