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Edited Date/Time 1/27/2012 12:44pm
Is it going to be available next season? If not, when will it? I can't remember how long it would be unavailable. IMO it should have been used already.
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flarider 6/3/2011 5:09am
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I think it was retired for like 10 yrs or something like that
Aussie_power_sports 6/3/2011 5:10am
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I thought I read somewhere that it became available this year, dunno why anyone would want it though. massive boots to fill
tcannon521 6/3/2011 6:45am
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No bigger than the #2 RV took

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3 years guys- (I would expect to see 25 points at some point ) http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/83835/print.html




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AMA to reserve Carmichael's number until 2011
3 April 2007

During a special ceremony at the Amp'd Mobile AMA Supercross Series in Orlando on March 17, AMA Racing announced it will hold Ricky Carmichael's famed #4 in reserve for three years.

Carmichael, the AMA's most successful Supercross and Motocross rider, announced his retirement prior to the 2007 racing season and Orlando marked his final AMA Supercross race.

According to AMA Racing Vice President, Communications, Kerry Graeber, the three-year retirement of Carmichael's racing number is in honour of his extraordinary racing career.

"Ricky Carmichael has raised the bar of professional motorcycle racing to all new levels and this gesture is a small token of our appreciation," said Graeber. "In addition to all of his on-track success 'RC' has been a tremendous ambassador for motorcycle racing overall and we wish him nothing but the best as he embarks on the next phase of his racing career."

Carmichael has announced that he will turn his attention to auto racing with hopes to eventually race in NASCAR's Nextel Cup.

AMA Racing Director of Supercross/Motocross, Steve Whitelock presented the honour to Carmichael in Orlando, and explained why the number wouldn't be permanently retired: "With so few single digit numbers available it's impractical for us to permanently retire a competitor's racing number," said Whitelock. "However, given Ricky's accomplishments in the sport, we're comfortable reserving his number through 2011."

Carmichael's statistics are likely never be matched. In addition to 144 career wins in AMA Supercross and AMA Motocross, Carmichael is a 15-time AMA Champion and was named AMA Rookie of the Year in 1996.

Carmichael has been named the AMA Racing SPEED Athlete of the Year an unprecedented five times, represented the United States in the Motocross of Nations six times and is the only rider to have ever carded a perfect season in the AMA Motocross Championship. Also, Carmichael has won championships in every class he's raced and on every brand of motorcycle he has represented.

Carmichael has stated that he will race in five or six events in the 2007 AMA Toyota Motocross Championship before focusing exclusively on auto racing. The AMA Motocross season begins on May 19-20 at the Hangtown Classic in Sacramento, California.



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I don't expect to see 25 points. Why would he do that? He's fully retired.
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I don't expect to see 25 points. Why would he do that? He's fully retired.
so was Henry and Dowd but they would show up in a pick up truck and give even RC fits for a few laps...let me have my wishful thinking-

Heck Mike Brown is out there getting his and he's been gone for awhile-
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It pisses me off to see retired guys come back to race just to get a few points so they can try to hang on to the past. Let it go! If they were racing just for the fun and love of it that would be different, but to try and keep their irrelevant number is pointless.
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ky_savage wrote:
It pisses me off to see retired guys come back to race just to get a few points so they can try to hang on to...
It pisses me off to see retired guys come back to race just to get a few points so they can try to hang on to the past. Let it go! If they were racing just for the fun and love of it that would be different, but to try and keep their irrelevant number is pointless.
what if its both...i have never been pissed to see jd or henry out there-
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Speaking of Henry, shouldn't #19 be free soon?
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Cook441 6/3/2011 7:13am
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isn't tomac running it?
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tcannon521 wrote:
No bigger than the #2 RV took
not really. McGrath didnt run the #2 for as many years as RC did his #4. When mcgrathwas winning he was #1
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I don't expect to see 25 points. Why would he do that? He's fully retired.
Cook441 wrote:
so was Henry and Dowd but they would show up in a pick up truck and give even RC fits for a few laps...let me have...
so was Henry and Dowd but they would show up in a pick up truck and give even RC fits for a few laps...let me have my wishful thinking-

Heck Mike Brown is out there getting his and he's been gone for awhile-
Yea, but mike still races full time...maybe not mx but offroad, endurocross, gncc...not like he is retired.
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I don't expect to see 25 points. Why would he do that? He's fully retired.
Cook441 wrote:
so was Henry and Dowd but they would show up in a pick up truck and give even RC fits for a few laps...let me have...
so was Henry and Dowd but they would show up in a pick up truck and give even RC fits for a few laps...let me have my wishful thinking-

Heck Mike Brown is out there getting his and he's been gone for awhile-
It just seems like a different situation to me. Mike Brown still races WORCS and is still in race shape. Dowd still races and stays in race shape. Henry at the time was racing supermoto and still riding enough to stay in good physical condition. RC has completely hung it up for Nascar and is in Nascar shape. Just my opinion but I don't think he's interested.
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flarider 6/3/2011 7:26am
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Yeah, don't expect RC racing


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ATKpilot99 wrote:
I don't expect to see 25 points. Why would he do that? He's fully retired.
Cook441 wrote:
so was Henry and Dowd but they would show up in a pick up truck and give even RC fits for a few laps...let me have...
so was Henry and Dowd but they would show up in a pick up truck and give even RC fits for a few laps...let me have my wishful thinking-

Heck Mike Brown is out there getting his and he's been gone for awhile-
ATKpilot99 wrote:
It just seems like a different situation to me. Mike Brown still races WORCS and is still in race shape. Dowd still races and stays in...
It just seems like a different situation to me. Mike Brown still races WORCS and is still in race shape. Dowd still races and stays in race shape. Henry at the time was racing supermoto and still riding enough to stay in good physical condition. RC has completely hung it up for Nascar and is in Nascar shape. Just my opinion but I don't think he's interested.
he still rides once a week- not saying he is in 30 plus 2 shape but if you follow him on twitter he still rides- Remember couple years ago when he waxed all the Retired guys, Stanton etc etc- he was bummed that they didn't let him go out with A guys in practice- He could easily come out and score points and have a blast doing it-
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Cook441 wrote:
what if its both...i have never been pissed to see jd or henry out there-
If they're out there for fun/love of it why not just use another number? Let the current racers use every number available?
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Cook441 wrote:
isn't tomac running it?
Duhhhh. Thanks

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tcannon521 wrote:
No bigger than the #2 RV took
zookrider62! wrote:
not really. McGrath didnt run the #2 for as many years as RC did his #4. When mcgrathwas winning he was #1
Man I amn really bummed I used to use RC at age three on a 3wheeler with the number 4 as my avatar and now I can't find the photo- Does anyone have it? I asked grandpa google but nothing!
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Cook441 6/3/2011 7:33am
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Cook441 wrote:
what if its both...i have never been pissed to see jd or henry out there-
ky_savage wrote:
If they're out there for fun/love of it why not just use another number? Let the current racers use every number available?
I guess I am biased- I have had 441 since I started racing at 15 I am 36 now and suspect it'll be on my tombstone-

we are talking about RC- The man wore orange gear for a whole season and still uses and markets a number that he started running when he's 3- do you really not get it?
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No way that former pile of muscle rider now semi fat driver of a trucks is going to go threw this ordeal just to keep that rather pointless right to "own a number professionally". We all know RC by his name, like MC. If they want to promote something the number of their bike is really pointless and MC uses "his" no 2 in all promos anyway despite RV is now the "rightful owner".

I wish RC was dumb singed up with that beer belly in an attempt to keep his number, but RC isn't stupid. RC moved on, some of us fans didn't. Smile
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DrSweden wrote:
No way that former pile of muscle rider now semi fat driver of a trucks is going to go threw this ordeal just to keep that...
No way that former pile of muscle rider now semi fat driver of a trucks is going to go threw this ordeal just to keep that rather pointless right to "own a number professionally". We all know RC by his name, like MC. If they want to promote something the number of their bike is really pointless and MC uses "his" no 2 in all promos anyway despite RV is now the "rightful owner".

I wish RC was dumb singed up with that beer belly in an attempt to keep his number, but RC isn't stupid. RC moved on, some of us fans didn't. Smile
are you saying rc in his current state couldnt get 25 points?
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Cook441 wrote:
what if its both...i have never been pissed to see jd or henry out there-
ky_savage wrote:
If they're out there for fun/love of it why not just use another number? Let the current racers use every number available?
I can't agree more.
Mike Brown, just let it go dude. You did great and grab this super low number for the one time you earned a championship. That was like 17 years ago dude. Freakin' let it go to some current up and coming stars... If you want to ride for fun grab your LL number or something like that.
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ky_savage 6/3/2011 8:38am
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At what point will a rule change stop the retired guys from coming back for a race or two to try and keep their number? If a said rule was in place now, would we see any of these guys return for any races for the so called love of the sport? Don't get me wrong, I love seeing them on the track but most are there for all the wrong reasons.
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Balancing act between progression and tradition.
Saturday nationals are good.
Permanent numbers and timed qualifying not so good.
TriRacer27 6/3/2011 8:51am
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So who's gonna take it?

If Canard didn't have such a compelling reason for using #41 it would be cool to see him with #4.
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kongols 6/3/2011 8:53am
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Isn`t #4 pretty much sacred and wouldn`t anybody who would run it be a little insane?
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DrSweden wrote:
No way that former pile of muscle rider now semi fat driver of a trucks is going to go threw this ordeal just to keep that...
No way that former pile of muscle rider now semi fat driver of a trucks is going to go threw this ordeal just to keep that rather pointless right to "own a number professionally". We all know RC by his name, like MC. If they want to promote something the number of their bike is really pointless and MC uses "his" no 2 in all promos anyway despite RV is now the "rightful owner".

I wish RC was dumb singed up with that beer belly in an attempt to keep his number, but RC isn't stupid. RC moved on, some of us fans didn't. Smile
zookrider62! wrote:
are you saying rc in his current state couldnt get 25 points?
Of course he could, I think the general question is whether he'd need more than 1 moto to do so.
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kongols 6/3/2011 8:56am
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DrSweden wrote:
No way that former pile of muscle rider now semi fat driver of a trucks is going to go threw this ordeal just to keep that...
No way that former pile of muscle rider now semi fat driver of a trucks is going to go threw this ordeal just to keep that rather pointless right to "own a number professionally". We all know RC by his name, like MC. If they want to promote something the number of their bike is really pointless and MC uses "his" no 2 in all promos anyway despite RV is now the "rightful owner".

I wish RC was dumb singed up with that beer belly in an attempt to keep his number, but RC isn't stupid. RC moved on, some of us fans didn't. Smile
zookrider62! wrote:
are you saying rc in his current state couldnt get 25 points?
Matt Fisher wrote:
Of course he could, I think the general question is whether he'd need more than 1 moto to do so.
Funny people.Laughing
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ky_savage 6/3/2011 9:03am
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With all the marketing of racers and their numbers it has completely screwed up the numbering system. If racers were marketed by name only and numbers were used to show placing from the previous season it would be great. Fans would know where a rider stands compared to the other guys on the track. Plus it would be motivation for the racer to better that number.

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