BUBBA GETS A REPRIEVE

mxb2 wrote:

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now...

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now. Everyone has opinions, but unless you were there there will be 2 sides to everystory! And money speaks, no one expected jail time, but its a stupid thing for anyone to do, 10-50years old. Its all fun until it happens to you!

mxb2 wrote:

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now...

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now. Everyone has opinions, but unless you were there there will be 2 sides to everystory! And money speaks, no one expected jail time, but its a stupid thing for anyone to do, 10-50years old. Its all fun until it happens to you!

flarider wrote:

and I believe I said it was stupid, did I not? Oh, wait, I did, see? [i]Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to...

and I believe I said it was stupid, did I not?

Oh, wait, I did, see?

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

SuperGenius wrote:

Excellent post.

agency399 wrote:

Just because his profession is not a judge, does not mean he cannot use some common sense to diagnose the situation does it? Pretty much spot...

Just because his profession is not a judge, does not mean he cannot use some common sense to diagnose the situation does it?

Pretty much spot on as I see it.

mxb2 wrote:

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now...

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now. Everyone has opinions, but unless you were there there will be 2 sides to everystory! And money speaks, no one expected jail time, but its a stupid thing for anyone to do, 10-50years old. Its all fun until it happens to you!

SuperGenius wrote:

Excellent post.

agency399 wrote:

Just because his profession is not a judge, does not mean he cannot use some common sense to diagnose the situation does it? Pretty much spot...

Just because his profession is not a judge, does not mean he cannot use some common sense to diagnose the situation does it?

Pretty much spot on as I see it.

mxb2 wrote:

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now...

Common sense and legal decisions are 2 different things!, I dont know what his occupation is, I ve been around the legal systems for awhile now. Everyone has opinions, but unless you were there there will be 2 sides to everystory! And money speaks, no one expected jail time, but its a stupid thing for anyone to do, 10-50years old. Its all fun until it happens to you!

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

flarider wrote:

Again, what, Bobby? Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out...

Again, what, Bobby?

Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out there in a clear manner how I understand things.
You just point fingers, call names and rant and rave like a crazy man.

If you have something to say, say it

BobbyM wrote:

sorry dave, it just SEEMS like you run to the defense of james at every opportunity. i am sure it is my crazy mind and imagination...

sorry dave, it just SEEMS like you run to the defense of james at every opportunity. i am sure it is my crazy mind and imagination and not one other person even remotely entertains the thought i SEEM to have.

and that is fine...but WHY is my question

flarider wrote:

Again, what, Bobby? Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out...

Again, what, Bobby?

Unlike you, I don't make odd vague references to things and expect everyone to know what I am talking about. I put out there in a clear manner how I understand things.
You just point fingers, call names and rant and rave like a crazy man.

If you have something to say, say it

BobbyM wrote:

sorry dave, it just SEEMS like you run to the defense of james at every opportunity. i am sure it is my crazy mind and imagination...

sorry dave, it just SEEMS like you run to the defense of james at every opportunity. i am sure it is my crazy mind and imagination and not one other person even remotely entertains the thought i SEEM to have.

and that is fine...but WHY is my question

flarider wrote:

Every opportunity? No When I have some idea what's going on? Yes. Did I defend James when he crashed his way through the SX series? No...

Every opportunity?
No

When I have some idea what's going on?
Yes.

Did I defend James when he crashed his way through the SX series?
No

Have I ever defended his TV show?
No, because I don't watch or like it

There are a lot of things I do not defend James on, and there are a lot of things I defend other riders on. If I know, I provide my input. If I do not know, I don't. If I think someone is incorrect, no matter who it is about, I say so.

Not my fault you see only what you want to see

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

wakeriderof87 wrote:

http://www.theledger.com/article/20110530/NEWS/110539968/1374?p=4&tc=pg

Local article about the national problem with people impersonating officers. Stewart gets a mention on the last page.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

FARANG wrote:

If a couple of random strangers did this to your wife while she was driving the kids to school and were apprehended, would you still be...

If a couple of random strangers did this to your wife while she was driving the kids to school and were apprehended, would you still be defending them this way?

If not, why not?

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

FARANG wrote:

If a couple of random strangers did this to your wife while she was driving the kids to school and were apprehended, would you still be...

If a couple of random strangers did this to your wife while she was driving the kids to school and were apprehended, would you still be defending them this way?

If not, why not?

flarider wrote:

Everything being exactly the same, my reaction would be the same.

Sorry to spoil your fun




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flarider wrote:

Like I said, all things being exactly the same

Mod Killer wrote:

are u serious? jesus christ ur thick. for every person saying that dave has a love affair with bubba, theres plenty here who are just looking...

are u serious? jesus christ ur thick.

for every person saying that dave has a love affair with bubba, theres plenty here who are just looking for an excuse to pile on him over nothing.



same goes for bobby. so much hate for these two built up over the years that noobs-turned regulars cant wait for the day when they can rat pack 'em. tho its not often you see dave and bobby going at it. just another case as to why the ban on noob bashing should be lifted.......if were not bashing them, we start turning on each other. very canabalistic days around here.




as for bubba, anyone who was rooting for this guy to get in trouble needs to get a life.

Mod Killer wrote:

i guess i dont see the weird thing about it. if he or anyone else did it to me or my family or friends..... a) i'd...

i guess i dont see the weird thing about it.

if he or anyone else did it to me or my family or friends.....

a) i'd be stoked i didnt get a real ticket
b) i'd be the biggest hypocrite in the world if i were to get pissed cause lord knows ive pulled plenty of harmless pranks
c) i'd probably deserve it cause chances are, those cops were driving like assholes, as they usually do


i mean, seriously, there are real problems going on in the world. at the VERY WORST, bubba was involved in a harmless prank. i could never see myself or any friend of mine getting pissed about this happening to them.



then again, my lil bro and his friends used to use a real cop light to pull over meth addicts back in my home town. they'd watch the meth heads ditch the car and go running off into the poison ivy to hide. then one of the kids would steal the car and they'd go have fun with it doing doughnuts in a dirt field. funny shit if u ask me, but not everyone shares our sense of humor.

flarider wrote:

Here is how I understand it. 1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to...

Here is how I understand it.

1. James never performed a "stop." He only flashed the lights, the car pulled over, they rolled up next to the car and yelled out the window "slow down." He never exited the car, he never pretended to be a cop (other than the lights), he never pretended to write a ticket, he did not pull behind the car like a police office would. So aside from flashing the light, he made no other action that could be seen as an attempt to impersonate a police officer.

2. He never "fled" the police officers, because they were in a personal vehicle, not a police vehicle, marked or unmarked. They had no lights or radio, which is why the police officers in a personal vehicle had to call 911 to report the incident. So they had no way to stop James, no light or sirens, so he had no reason to stop or indication to stop, therefore, he never "fled" or "evaded" police. He stopped for three toll booths, does someone fleeing police stop and pay tolls? Especially considering those three booths have speed-thru toll systems, where you do not have to stop if you have a "Sunpass" prepaid toll transponder? (why James doesn't have one, I have no idea)

3. Just because Rado had the light in his bag does not prove or mean they were trying to hide it, he could have been taking it with him to California, which is why they were headed to the airport. Can't prove he wasn't.

Now, all that said, was it a dumb thing to do? Yes, you bet 'cha, absolutely. Totally stupid.

Clutchy wrote:

What was the intent of the flashing lights...? Christmas...?... What message was he trying to send with having said lights.......? Was he acting as a person...

What was the intent of the flashing lights...? Christmas...?...

What message was he trying to send with having said lights.......?

Was he acting as a person of law enforcement...? if not, then what...?

To use flashing red lights is universally illegal in this country, Why....? Because its what Law enforcement/Emergency personal uses.

Your logic could be the same used by a murderer or rapist caught early in they're crime, hence why there needs to be zero tolerance.

With that said, He should get a hefty fine, get his stuff back ( except the lights ) and be one his way. And his fine was bigger then any a court judge could impose......!!!!!!!!!!

Mod Killer wrote:

i guess i dont see the weird thing about it. if he or anyone else did it to me or my family or friends..... a) i'd...

i guess i dont see the weird thing about it.

if he or anyone else did it to me or my family or friends.....

a) i'd be stoked i didnt get a real ticket
b) i'd be the biggest hypocrite in the world if i were to get pissed cause lord knows ive pulled plenty of harmless pranks
c) i'd probably deserve it cause chances are, those cops were driving like assholes, as they usually do


i mean, seriously, there are real problems going on in the world. at the VERY WORST, bubba was involved in a harmless prank. i could never see myself or any friend of mine getting pissed about this happening to them.



then again, my lil bro and his friends used to use a real cop light to pull over meth addicts back in my home town. they'd watch the meth heads ditch the car and go running off into the poison ivy to hide. then one of the kids would steal the car and they'd go have fun with it doing doughnuts in a dirt field. funny shit if u ask me, but not everyone shares our sense of humor.

Mod Killer wrote:

i guess i dont see the weird thing about it. if he or anyone else did it to me or my family or friends..... a) i'd...

i guess i dont see the weird thing about it.

if he or anyone else did it to me or my family or friends.....

a) i'd be stoked i didnt get a real ticket
b) i'd be the biggest hypocrite in the world if i were to get pissed cause lord knows ive pulled plenty of harmless pranks
c) i'd probably deserve it cause chances are, those cops were driving like assholes, as they usually do


i mean, seriously, there are real problems going on in the world. at the VERY WORST, bubba was involved in a harmless prank. i could never see myself or any friend of mine getting pissed about this happening to them.



then again, my lil bro and his friends used to use a real cop light to pull over meth addicts back in my home town. they'd watch the meth heads ditch the car and go running off into the poison ivy to hide. then one of the kids would steal the car and they'd go have fun with it doing doughnuts in a dirt field. funny shit if u ask me, but not everyone shares our sense of humor.

OldGuy wrote:

Copied from MXA Florida prosecutors decided that there was not enough evidence against James Stewart to proceed with the case against him (which legal experts claim...

Copied from MXA Florida prosecutors decided that there was not enough evidence against James Stewart to proceed with the case against him (which legal experts claim is not only airtight, but includes a confession). Stewart was arrested earlier in the year after authorities said he flashed red and blue police lights at a car on the freeway (the car just happened to contain two off-duty highway patrol troopers and an off-duty deputy). Stewart was arrested and his truck was seized. The state attorney's office said there isn't enough evidence to move forward, but the Florida State Trooper's want their legal team to review the decision.

Mod Killer wrote:

are u serious? jesus christ ur thick. for every person saying that dave has a love affair with bubba, theres plenty here who are just looking...

are u serious? jesus christ ur thick.

for every person saying that dave has a love affair with bubba, theres plenty here who are just looking for an excuse to pile on him over nothing.



same goes for bobby. so much hate for these two built up over the years that noobs-turned regulars cant wait for the day when they can rat pack 'em. tho its not often you see dave and bobby going at it. just another case as to why the ban on noob bashing should be lifted.......if were not bashing them, we start turning on each other. very canabalistic days around here.




as for bubba, anyone who was rooting for this guy to get in trouble needs to get a life.