Mx. vs. ATV. Alive. First. Impressions.

ky_savage
Posts
2786
Joined
12/4/2008
Location
Kentucky, KY, USA
5/17/2011 1:30pm
I would pay $15 for all the SX tracks, and $5 for all the OEM's total. That would take the price of the game plus DLC's to $60. That's as far as I'd go.
mcphilly
Posts
1245
Joined
7/29/2008
Location
Monroe, WA, USA
5/17/2011 3:32pm
Anybody been able to log onto the ps3 network and get your codes yet ? or know when it will be fully up and running ?
MX281
Posts
38
Joined
3/8/2011
Location
NZ
5/17/2011 3:46pm Edited Date/Time 5/17/2011 3:47pm
You can't even download the Suzuki's unless you live in the USA or Mexico. Whats the point in having a dlc game if half the people who own it can't download the content.
ogdeno
Posts
316
Joined
8/27/2009
Location
Sydney, AU
5/17/2011 3:49pm
ky_savage wrote:
I would pay $15 for all the SX tracks, and $5 for all the OEM's total. That would take the price of the game plus DLC's...
I would pay $15 for all the SX tracks, and $5 for all the OEM's total. That would take the price of the game plus DLC's to $60. That's as far as I'd go.
You think you could try scaling it back to one whinge per page?

The Shop

wawazat
Posts
816
Joined
5/6/2011
Location
Corona, CA, USA
5/17/2011 3:55pm
Mstock wrote:
It is so obvious from their posts that the only people bitching about this game think they should be able to win on all time after...
It is so obvious from their posts that the only people bitching about this game think they should be able to win on all time after a few hours. Here is a tip. The game is only as good as you are. If your IQ, clock speed, and mental alertness suck then the game will suck. For the faggots who need to level up on figure 8 tracks you might want to consider a sport like polo or crickets. Just because you leveled up on loser tracks does not make you a level 25, 35, or 50 rider. It makes the game worse actually. If you are a C rider on level 25 tracks with a full mod 450 you are fucked. Start over and learn how to ride. It is a new game. Just because you mastered Reflex does not mean shit.
It is so obvious from their posts that the only people bitching about this game think they should be able to win on all time after a few hours.

Not on my part, I like a challenging game. It's not about winning or losing, its about wanting to become better at the game and keep my interest.

Here is a tip. The game is only as good as you are.

Thanks for your tip, but it didn't really do me any good. Elbows being down, and having giants on the bikes has nothing to do with how good I play. Limited tracks is another big issue.

If your IQ, clock speed, and mental alertness suck then the game will suck.

My ability isn't the issue. Is someone having a comphresion problem? The game isn't what I was expecting. I thought they would build off of Reflex, not start all over. Alive has Mototrax feel to it, and there is a reason they only made one of those.


For the faggots who need to level up on figure 8 tracks you might want to consider a sport like polo or crickets

Wow, taking things a lil bit serious huh? Another internet tough guy..lol Look, I don't have hours to spend on the same tracks trying to level up. So doing the short track seemed like the fastest way to get a 450.

Just because you leveled up on loser tracks does not make you a level 25, 35, or 50 rider. It makes the game worse actually. If you are a C rider on level 25 tracks with a full mod 450 you are fucked. Start over and learn how to ride. It is a new game. Just because you mastered Reflex does not mean shit.

Explain how it makes the game worse? Guess I'm fucked. Seriously did I ever say I can't win at the game? I said I don't like the way it plays, it feels like a step backwards. I actually have done pretty good at the game on some of the tracks on a 450. So it has nothing to do with how good or bad I am. I just don't like the feel of the game, maybe it will grow on me like it has for some others.

Settle down Francis, it's just a game and the topic is "First Impressions."
5/17/2011 4:05pm
ky_savage wrote:
If the OEM bikes don't add anything other than a name and looks, it's a waste of money IMO. I could care less what bike my...
If the OEM bikes don't add anything other than a name and looks, it's a waste of money IMO. I could care less what bike my giant is riding. If there's no added performance, there's no need in it.
Hey i can fix shaq on a 85 look.... Press LB and the D pad and you can manually adjust camara distance and angle. Looks much smaller when you adjust farther away.
peelout
Posts
18427
Joined
1/6/2011
Location
Ogden, UT, USA
5/17/2011 4:08pm
ky_savage wrote:
If the OEM bikes don't add anything other than a name and looks, it's a waste of money IMO. I could care less what bike my...
If the OEM bikes don't add anything other than a name and looks, it's a waste of money IMO. I could care less what bike my giant is riding. If there's no added performance, there's no need in it.
LOL

so what about all the turds complaining endlessly about the "Blaze" and "Takashi"?
ky_savage
Posts
2786
Joined
12/4/2008
Location
Kentucky, KY, USA
5/17/2011 4:16pm
ogdeno wrote:
You think you could try scaling it back to one whinge per page?
I'm expressing my opinion just as you did here. I respect yours so respect mine.
ky_savage
Posts
2786
Joined
12/4/2008
Location
Kentucky, KY, USA
5/17/2011 4:19pm
ky_savage wrote:
If the OEM bikes don't add anything other than a name and looks, it's a waste of money IMO. I could care less what bike my...
If the OEM bikes don't add anything other than a name and looks, it's a waste of money IMO. I could care less what bike my giant is riding. If there's no added performance, there's no need in it.
peelout wrote:
LOL

so what about all the turds complaining endlessly about the "Blaze" and "Takashi"?
Those are the people these DLC's are for. Like I said, it's my opinion so those DLC buy or not buy items apply to me.
peelout
Posts
18427
Joined
1/6/2011
Location
Ogden, UT, USA
5/17/2011 4:25pm
ky_savage wrote:
Those are the people these DLC's are for. Like I said, it's my opinion so those DLC buy or not buy items apply to me.
hence the beauty of DLC
Mstock
Posts
2044
Joined
9/14/2010
Location
Middleton, WI, USA
5/17/2011 4:37pm
I'm done defending the good points of this edition. If you hate it then wait for BlackBean to come out with the GP game next year if you think they will do better. If you are a really core gamer then MXsimulator might be your answer. I love every mx game. Alive is worth the $40. Personally I wish they charged $99 just to weed out the scabs.
I will buy every bit of dlc if it is realistic related. Real bikes, real riders, real tracks.
There is zero sense in having pro riders on fake bikes on snow tracks. I will agree with you on that.
Shawn142
Posts
2602
Joined
10/27/2008
Location
Burleson, TX, USA
5/17/2011 4:47pm
I've pretty much come to the conclusion I don't like console arcade-like games, especially MX related. I loved MCM1 and 2, played the hell out of them. And even though it nearly makes me through my controller and is infinitely harder I love MX Simulator, ESPECIALLY when compared to this game. The only upside I see is the online is noticeably more stable.

I really can't say anything more than others have complained about. The guy is huge, goony, the physics are flat out CRAZY. I realize it's on a computer and adding tracks/bikes can be confusing plus it's very difficult to master, but why you guys would choose this over MX Sim is just beyond me. MX Sim has all the DLC you guys are waiting to pay for, quality replicas of real tracks (outdoor and the entire SX series), and the physics don't make me laugh at my screen. I realize it's suppose to be an arcade game and you can't really compare the two.. but I guess I'm spoiled already.
sharkey
Posts
2446
Joined
7/28/2008
Location
Marysville, WA, USA
5/17/2011 5:56pm
Anyone else think it's way easier to blitz the whoops on the JS7 national track on the mod 250 than on the mod 450? I think...
Anyone else think it's way easier to blitz the whoops on the JS7 national track on the mod 250 than on the mod 450?

I think they made the difference in handling between those two a little too exaggerated...

I can run faster laps with the 250 on just about every track.
peelout wrote:
the mod 250 rocks. i was a lot faster on the 250 until i learned how to be fast on the 450. some of my times...
the mod 250 rocks. i was a lot faster on the 250 until i learned how to be fast on the 450. some of my times are still really really close.

however, when i race a mod 250 against 450's in a room with fast dudes, i struggle to keep up, almost like i'm over riding it to keep up out of corners
thats the same problem i have , i can ride the mod 250 great but if i try to ride the 450 that way im all over the place
skidsteer16
Posts
2125
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Lakewood, CO, USA
5/17/2011 9:45pm Edited Date/Time 5/18/2011 8:05am
Bought the RM125 DLC bike...It comes with GREEN number plates so I'm thinking...ok ,once I level it up it will unlock the other number plate options...no biggie.

Nope

With three stars I now have the awesome selection of Blue, Red, Yellow, and Stock (Green).

Are they serious with this stuff?

I know it's just number plates and you don't even see them much, especially considering there are no freakin replays...but come on.

In what meeting did they sit down and say,

"Well...I think we'll go with Blue, Red, and Yellow number plate options...oh, and make the stock ones Green... yep, that's what we'll do!"

"Bruce, don't ya think we should have Black or White as an option...I mean, this is for the DLC OEM bikes. If someone payed for it... they obviously wanted their bike to be realistic?"

"Nope, I think Blue, Red, Yellow, and Green are just fine...I can't for the life of me see many people wanting white or black, let's not waste our time on that...

...Ok, moving on. Next item on the list is a very important one... how are the taunt animations coming?"
skidsteer16
Posts
2125
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Lakewood, CO, USA
5/17/2011 9:48pm Edited Date/Time 5/17/2011 10:47pm
The only thing I can gather from stuff like this is it's pretty evident they're an Equal Opportunity Employer.
tobz
Posts
3891
Joined
3/5/2007
Location
Adelaide, AU
5/17/2011 10:01pm
The only thing I can gather from stuff like this is it's pretty evident they're an Equal Opportunity Employer.
Well they're certainly not employed under performance based wages.
5/17/2011 10:44pm
Going from Mx vs. Atv Untamed to Mx vs. Atv Alive (Xbox 360), I definitely notice a huge difference. The hardest parts for me with the new game is trying to preload on jumps, controlling the bike in mid-air and trying to keep up with the momentum. But so far I love the game. Any tips you like to share with me, is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
ogdeno
Posts
316
Joined
8/27/2009
Location
Sydney, AU
5/18/2011 12:10am
ogdeno wrote:
You think you could try scaling it back to one whinge per page?
ky_savage wrote:
I'm expressing my opinion just as you did here. I respect yours so respect mine.
Fair call, carry on......
Mstock
Posts
2044
Joined
9/14/2010
Location
Middleton, WI, USA
5/18/2011 6:07am
Bought the RM125 DLC bike...It comes with GREEN number plates so I'm thinking...ok ,once I level it up it will unlock the other number plate options...no...
Bought the RM125 DLC bike...It comes with GREEN number plates so I'm thinking...ok ,once I level it up it will unlock the other number plate options...no biggie.

Nope

With three stars I now have the awesome selection of Blue, Red, Yellow, and Stock (Green).

Are they serious with this stuff?

I know it's just number plates and you don't even see them much, especially considering there are no freakin replays...but come on.

In what meeting did they sit down and say,

"Well...I think we'll go with Blue, Red, and Yellow number plate options...oh, and make the stock ones Green... yep, that's what we'll do!"

"Bruce, don't ya think we should have Black or White as an option...I mean, this is for the DLC OEM bikes. If someone payed for it... they obviously wanted their bike to be realistic?"

"Nope, I think Blue, Red, Yellow, and Green are just fine...I can't for the life of me see many people wanting white or black, let's not waste our time on that...

...Ok, moving on. Next item on the list is a very important one... how are the taunt animations coming?"
Great post. Thanks for the laugh.
MCfan4life
Posts
5731
Joined
6/25/2009
Location
Qld, AU
5/18/2011 6:14am
Bought the RM125 DLC bike...It comes with GREEN number plates so I'm thinking...ok ,once I level it up it will unlock the other number plate options...no...
Bought the RM125 DLC bike...It comes with GREEN number plates so I'm thinking...ok ,once I level it up it will unlock the other number plate options...no biggie.

Nope

With three stars I now have the awesome selection of Blue, Red, Yellow, and Stock (Green).

Are they serious with this stuff?

I know it's just number plates and you don't even see them much, especially considering there are no freakin replays...but come on.

In what meeting did they sit down and say,

"Well...I think we'll go with Blue, Red, and Yellow number plate options...oh, and make the stock ones Green... yep, that's what we'll do!"

"Bruce, don't ya think we should have Black or White as an option...I mean, this is for the DLC OEM bikes. If someone payed for it... they obviously wanted their bike to be realistic?"

"Nope, I think Blue, Red, Yellow, and Green are just fine...I can't for the life of me see many people wanting white or black, let's not waste our time on that...

...Ok, moving on. Next item on the list is a very important one... how are the taunt animations coming?"
That's some funny shit right there... Laughing
Aaryn234
Posts
3328
Joined
8/19/2007
Location
South Australia, SA, AU
Fantasy
5/18/2011 6:28am
Skid Steer that post just made my day.

Nearly threw the PS Controller through the wall tonight, the online game play so far has been a little better than Reflex, but it is still so hit and miss, last night i played in private rooms with pretty much no problem, tonight in the public rooms , it would either not load up rooms, freeze in the next race selection screen or random drop outs.

So went back to single player and man is that getting boring, though i did find it a challenge to win two races straight, it was like the AI would step up a notch after i won a race.

Still no downloadable content for PS3 owners....... Well maybe the content is there but there is no way of accessing it! Wonder what JS compound is really like. Just want to spend the next three months doing what he is doing, riding around by my self while everyone else races.
Ramrod
Posts
4998
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Ontario, CA
5/18/2011 6:30am
Bought the RM125 DLC bike...It comes with GREEN number plates so I'm thinking...ok ,once I level it up it will unlock the other number plate options...no...
Bought the RM125 DLC bike...It comes with GREEN number plates so I'm thinking...ok ,once I level it up it will unlock the other number plate options...no biggie.

Nope

With three stars I now have the awesome selection of Blue, Red, Yellow, and Stock (Green).

Are they serious with this stuff?

I know it's just number plates and you don't even see them much, especially considering there are no freakin replays...but come on.

In what meeting did they sit down and say,

"Well...I think we'll go with Blue, Red, and Yellow number plate options...oh, and make the stock ones Green... yep, that's what we'll do!"

"Bruce, don't ya think we should have Black or White as an option...I mean, this is for the DLC OEM bikes. If someone payed for it... they obviously wanted their bike to be realistic?"

"Nope, I think Blue, Red, Yellow, and Green are just fine...I can't for the life of me see many people wanting white or black, let's not waste our time on that...

...Ok, moving on. Next item on the list is a very important one... how are the taunt animations coming?"
MCfan4life wrote:
That's some funny shit right there... Laughing
skidsteer16, keep that converstation going - it's gold!

Other topics on the meeting agenda:
snow on the track
goon rider style
throttle hand on start line
AUS_Twisted
Posts
1153
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Melbourne, AU
5/18/2011 6:38am Edited Date/Time 5/18/2011 6:42am
"Ok, moving on. Next item on the list is a very important one... how are the taunt animations coming?"

The taunt animations are coming along just fine

reded
Posts
3682
Joined
3/26/2011
Location
USA
5/18/2011 6:43am
I bit the bullet and bought the game last night. Coming from Unleashed to Alive is night and day as Unleashed is physically easier to play. Some random thoughts.....

The physics are good but as some have said, the bike feels heavy, then at other times it feels terribly skittish and wants to head off in a random direction. This was not an issue with Unleashed so I guess you could say that I was hoping for better gameplay outta the box. Perhaps this will change once I get off this underpowered, wheezing, generic branded 125?

Lack of tracks in the beginning stages. I'm at Level 7 and damn near burned out on the game. I've raced these two tracks so many times I could do it blindfolded. At what point do I get to play something different? Christ, the monotony of it all!

Taunts. Well, this is just embarrassing. I'm sitting in my house all alone and I get embarrassed when they do the taunts, that's not part of MX, never has, never will be. I can honestly say that I have never had thoughts of flying the bird as I passed someone. Could've done without the huge boobs on the 30sec girls as well. It gives the game a GTA feel for a few secs which IMO, we really don't need.

I'm still on the fence as to whether it was worth an hour and a half of my hard earned pay. Hopefully it gets better from this point and starts to feel and play the way I think it should. So far it's not as bad as some have said but it's really not as great as others portray it. Guess I'll grind it out for a couple more hours with fingers crossed.
tobz
Posts
3891
Joined
3/5/2007
Location
Adelaide, AU
5/18/2011 6:47am
Aaryn234 wrote:
Skid Steer that post just made my day. Nearly threw the PS Controller through the wall tonight, the online game play so far has been a...
Skid Steer that post just made my day.

Nearly threw the PS Controller through the wall tonight, the online game play so far has been a little better than Reflex, but it is still so hit and miss, last night i played in private rooms with pretty much no problem, tonight in the public rooms , it would either not load up rooms, freeze in the next race selection screen or random drop outs.

So went back to single player and man is that getting boring, though i did find it a challenge to win two races straight, it was like the AI would step up a notch after i won a race.

Still no downloadable content for PS3 owners....... Well maybe the content is there but there is no way of accessing it! Wonder what JS compound is really like. Just want to spend the next three months doing what he is doing, riding around by my self while everyone else races.
Any lag with us tonight aaryn? That was a public room we were in, I think it depends on other players Internet speeds perhaps? Havnt had any major issues other than a couple if particular players that seem to lag massively.



Another thing that's popping up is the friends list that shows fastest laps for that particular track show at least 1 bogus lap time in the group, everyone would be around 1.38 in my friends list but there would be one dude with a 57 or something bogus.
Drfletcher
Posts
485
Joined
6/12/2008
Location
Cumming, GA, USA
5/18/2011 9:34am
I like the game but just like in real life - I've already peaked.
skidsteer16
Posts
2125
Joined
4/1/2008
Location
Lakewood, CO, USA
5/18/2011 9:45am Edited Date/Time 5/18/2011 10:34am
Continuation...


"... how are the taunt animations coming?"


Well, Bruce. We went back to the drawing board on this one...had to make sure we were going in the right direction.
I sat down with Max, Benny, and Skeeter last week to make sure we're all on the same page. ...and from what I saw, the animations are pretty well dialed in at this point and exactly what we're looking for. The crew spent about a week in the motion capture booth collecting data on Darrell, the night janitor, who as we all know suffers from chronic arm spasms. ...From everything I've seen he did great job for us so I put in the request to HR to put him on retainer...we'll definitely be needing his services in the future. ...oh, and on that note, Doug from I.T., pitched this great idea for DLC where we could have additional environment features like Wacky Waving Inflatable Arm-Flailing Tubemen, you know, like the ones you see out front of the used car lots... ...Golden!

Anyways, don't wanna get too sidetracked here... our testers are working hand in hand with the animation crew to make sure everything is implemented perfectly. I guess they ran into some issues where they couldn't get the taunts to activate in the middle of railing a berm or blitzing the whoops... so they're still getting the bugs worked out with that but I've been promised they'll have it all squared away and firing on all cylinders by the time we go to beta.



"Sounds great! ...And don't forget guys, we've got Tyler Bowers coming in on Tuesday so make sure our character modelers have their schedules clear.

...What've we got from the environment team this week?"


Oh not a whole lot, Bruce, Things are coming along nicely. We had a team go down to the Maricopa County Fair last week for the figure 8 Demo derby...we wanted to make sure our short tracks were up to snuff so... we're working hard on that.
Also, Holly and Meg are out of the office this week...they're up north gathering pics for our Alpine Motorcross National tracks.
I think these tracks are gonna be a big hit with the fans of the MVA franchise. Our industry insiders are always talking about the evolution of the sport and we wanna be on the leading edge of it...
Gone are the days of the 909 empire...the 907 is where it's at in 2011!



"Top notch stuff guys...and gals! I'm really proud of everyone. Keep up the good work, and I guess we'll see you all next week.

...Oh, and remember: next Friday... is Hawaiian shirt day. So, you know, if you want to, go ahead and wear a Hawaiian shirt and jeans."
peelout
Posts
18427
Joined
1/6/2011
Location
Ogden, UT, USA
5/18/2011 10:18am
...

every game has haters, but this one seems to take the cake with 3 year olds with a rash on their ass.

game isn't perfect, that's apparent, but here we are on page 18
mx 219
Posts
4047
Joined
8/15/2010
Location
South Central, PA, USA
5/18/2011 10:22am
...peelout, why would they NOT put a white/black background for EVERY bike. Every bike comes stock with white plastic number plates and everyone that follows racing (probably AT LEAST 80% of the consumers) knows that 125/250f get black backgrounds (pros), and some squids would probably like running a black background on a 450, just as much as the other colors.

Post a reply to: Mx. vs. ATV. Alive. First. Impressions.

The Latest