Ohio train derailment/chemical explosion

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You’re ‘guessing’ without knowing the facts?    but hey, it’s ‘cool’ to act like public servants always act within our best interests and never try to...

You’re ‘guessing’ without knowing the facts? 
 

but hey, it’s ‘cool’ to act like public servants always act within our best interests and never try to hide anything shady.

And you’re guessing without knowing the facts too, right? Or were you there? I wasn’t there so you’re correct, it’s an assumption. What I do know is there was quite a few people there who wanted him gone. I highly doubt all of those people were wrong as opposed to that one journalist being right. 

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2/15/2023 2:48pm

Again, another assumption. You could be right, just pointing out the flaws with guessing is all.

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When you’re asked to leave somewhere that doesn’t belong to you, you leave. The news reporter doesn’t own the school. The superintendent is the guy who...

When you’re asked to leave somewhere that doesn’t belong to you, you leave. The news reporter doesn’t own the school. The superintendent is the guy who gets to make that decision and he told the guy he wanted him to leave. 
 

Do you honestly think this guy was singled out? Why wasn’t anyone else asked to leave? It’s funny how with all those cameras there they haven’t shown WHY the guy was told to leave. I’m guessing he was acting like a real donkey and they politely asked him to stop. He continued his stupidity which resulted in him being told to leave. He then refused to leave which causes him to be forced to leave and arrested for trespassing. If you are told to leave a place which is owned/in control of another person you have to leave. Period. You’d be singing a different tune if you ran a business and someone came in acting disorderly, you asked them to leave and they refused. 
 

But hey, it’s 2023 and it’s “cool” to blame the cops for other people’s stupidity. 

LungButter wrote:
You might not be wrong, hard saying not knowing. I didn't really take it as the Cops were the bad guys, I assumed someone higher up...

You might not be wrong, hard saying not knowing.

I didn't really take it as the Cops were the bad guys, I assumed someone higher up the food chain didn't like the questions he was asking and the cops were told to get him outta there.

This seems like a horrible situation that could have some serious long term implications.  Scary shit.

Did I read somewhere that 10% of the US Population relies on the Ohio river in one form or another?

From what I gathered the journalist was being disruptive. He was asked to stop and refused. He was told to leave and refused. Like I said, there were a lot of people upset with one particular person. Usually when that’s the case it’s pretty easy to pick out who the aggressor was. 

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Again, another assumption. You could be right, just pointing out the flaws with guessing is all.

So it’s okay for others blasting the police for what happened to assume? Because I don’t see you calling them out…

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2/15/2023 2:53pm

Hey all you folks blasting the police, hold your damned horses until we get the full story. That is an order.

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So it’s okay for others blasting the police for what happened to assume? Because I don’t see you calling them out…

Happy?

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2/15/2023 3:07pm

This could turn out to be our Chernobyl, time will tell. 

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2/15/2023 3:11pm
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This could turn out to be our Chernobyl, time will tell. 

I was going to mention that before but held off. I can't stop thinking about the residents of the town being told to return ,they are being completely ignored. It's clearly not safe or animals and fish wouldn't be dropping dead. I'm guessing nobody will ever see the test results of that river that supplies drinking water for 5 million people.

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I was going to mention that before but held off. I can't stop thinking about the residents of the town being told to return ,they are...

I was going to mention that before but held off. I can't stop thinking about the residents of the town being told to return ,they are being completely ignored. It's clearly not safe or animals and fish wouldn't be dropping dead. I'm guessing nobody will ever see the test results of that river that supplies drinking water for 5 million people.

Was watching Joe Rogan on it earlier and was aghast at what these people are seeing. 

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2/15/2023 3:17pm

The videos on YouTube are tragic.

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agn5008 wrote:

So it’s okay for others blasting the police for what happened to assume? Because I don’t see you calling them out…

Chatmore wrote:

Happy?

Yep. I won’t “assume” either. 
 

Anyways, this is a horrible tragedy. I’ve done races in that area (Salem too) and I’m really hoping for the best possible outcome for everyone affected. 

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I am, too. Just terrible all the way around and I feel for the folks that live in that area.

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2/15/2023 5:25pm
Chatmore wrote:

Again, another assumption. You could be right, just pointing out the flaws with guessing is all.

agn5008 wrote:

So it’s okay for others blasting the police for what happened to assume? Because I don’t see you calling them out…

The video of the whole thing is available. Hard to say he was being disruptive. The cops kind of acted like assholes and it just escalated from there. He felt he was being unfairly singled out. He was there doing his job. Check it out and form your own opinion. 

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2/15/2023 6:09pm

A military officer put hands on the guy telling him to leave. Not his job.

All charges dropped. 

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Chatmore wrote:

Again, another assumption. You could be right, just pointing out the flaws with guessing is all.

agn5008 wrote:

So it’s okay for others blasting the police for what happened to assume? Because I don’t see you calling them out…

swordfish wrote:
The video of the whole thing is available. Hard to say he was being disruptive. The cops kind of acted like assholes and it just escalated...

The video of the whole thing is available. Hard to say he was being disruptive. The cops kind of acted like assholes and it just escalated from there. He felt he was being unfairly singled out. He was there doing his job. Check it out and form your own opinion. 

I tried finding it on YouTube but wasn’t successful. What I saw was a couple cops politely trying to get him to go outside to avoid further disruptions. One cop was being kinda more direct? Then the lead superintendent identified himself and told him he was telling him to leave. That’s when your arguing should end. At that point, the guy responsible for making decisions for that establishment has told you to get out. When he again refused, now it’s trespassing 🤷‍♂️ it’s really not hard to understand at all. The person who either owns or who is in charge of the venue told him to leave. He has to leave regardless of whether or not he’s right or wrong. Just because he’s a reporter that doesn’t give him special privileges. 

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2/16/2023 2:41am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2023 2:43am

So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality. 

And not anyone from the EPA. 

 

So while people are beginning to become sick, wild and domestic animals are dying, a lame ass pair of local shills in lab coats are standing around telling residents that all is well.

You're all just a bunch of hypochondriacs with head colds. 

 

And the transportation secretary is out bemoaning the fact that it's nothing but white guys showing up to do the work on construction projects. 

 

A side note:

We're seeing the current administration give more resources to criminal illegal immigrants, than lawful American citizens. 

And right before our very eyes. 

But hey, they're shooting down balloons, so it can't be all that bad.

(But remember, they're not space aliens)

 

You can't make this shit up, 

And, #FJB 

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So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality.  And not anyone from the EPA. ...

So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality. 

And not anyone from the EPA. 

 

So while people are beginning to become sick, wild and domestic animals are dying, a lame ass pair of local shills in lab coats are standing around telling residents that all is well.

You're all just a bunch of hypochondriacs with head colds. 

 

And the transportation secretary is out bemoaning the fact that it's nothing but white guys showing up to do the work on construction projects. 

 

A side note:

We're seeing the current administration give more resources to criminal illegal immigrants, than lawful American citizens. 

And right before our very eyes. 

But hey, they're shooting down balloons, so it can't be all that bad.

(But remember, they're not space aliens)

 

You can't make this shit up, 

And, #FJB 

You can make it up though, and you did. Maybe the company is also conducting testing (I would sure hope so, anyway) but the US EPA and the Ohio EPA are both very involved. This statement was from Tuesday; I'm sure there is more since then, too.

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/statement-regional-administrator-debra-shore-east-palestine-train-derailment

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2/16/2023 7:25am
agn5008 wrote:
I tried finding it on YouTube but wasn’t successful. What I saw was a couple cops politely trying to get him to go outside to avoid...

I tried finding it on YouTube but wasn’t successful. What I saw was a couple cops politely trying to get him to go outside to avoid further disruptions. One cop was being kinda more direct? Then the lead superintendent identified himself and told him he was telling him to leave. That’s when your arguing should end. At that point, the guy responsible for making decisions for that establishment has told you to get out. When he again refused, now it’s trespassing 🤷‍♂️ it’s really not hard to understand at all. The person who either owns or who is in charge of the venue told him to leave. He has to leave regardless of whether or not he’s right or wrong. Just because he’s a reporter that doesn’t give him special privileges. 

You can see the lead up to the confrontation in this video, no audio however.

 

 

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So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality.  And not anyone from the EPA. ...

So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality. 

And not anyone from the EPA. 

 

So while people are beginning to become sick, wild and domestic animals are dying, a lame ass pair of local shills in lab coats are standing around telling residents that all is well.

You're all just a bunch of hypochondriacs with head colds. 

 

And the transportation secretary is out bemoaning the fact that it's nothing but white guys showing up to do the work on construction projects. 

 

A side note:

We're seeing the current administration give more resources to criminal illegal immigrants, than lawful American citizens. 

And right before our very eyes. 

But hey, they're shooting down balloons, so it can't be all that bad.

(But remember, they're not space aliens)

 

You can't make this shit up, 

And, #FJB 

It was Republican governor Dewines choice to have the cleanup and monitoring effort spearheaded by the Ohio EPA and the Ohio DNR.

 

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So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality.  And not anyone from the EPA. ...

So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality. 

And not anyone from the EPA. 

 

So while people are beginning to become sick, wild and domestic animals are dying, a lame ass pair of local shills in lab coats are standing around telling residents that all is well.

You're all just a bunch of hypochondriacs with head colds. 

 

And the transportation secretary is out bemoaning the fact that it's nothing but white guys showing up to do the work on construction projects. 

 

A side note:

We're seeing the current administration give more resources to criminal illegal immigrants, than lawful American citizens. 

And right before our very eyes. 

But hey, they're shooting down balloons, so it can't be all that bad.

(But remember, they're not space aliens)

 

You can't make this shit up, 

And, #FJB 

You can make it up though, and you did. Maybe the company is also conducting testing (I would sure hope so, anyway) but the US EPA...

You can make it up though, and you did. Maybe the company is also conducting testing (I would sure hope so, anyway) but the US EPA and the Ohio EPA are both very involved. This statement was from Tuesday; I'm sure there is more since then, too.

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/statement-regional-administrator-debra-shore-east-palestine-train-derailment

I didn't "make up" a damn thing.

And I find it maddening that you believe anything coming from our government about this.

2/16/2023 7:43am
So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality.  And not anyone from the EPA. ...

So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality. 

And not anyone from the EPA. 

 

So while people are beginning to become sick, wild and domestic animals are dying, a lame ass pair of local shills in lab coats are standing around telling residents that all is well.

You're all just a bunch of hypochondriacs with head colds. 

 

And the transportation secretary is out bemoaning the fact that it's nothing but white guys showing up to do the work on construction projects. 

 

A side note:

We're seeing the current administration give more resources to criminal illegal immigrants, than lawful American citizens. 

And right before our very eyes. 

But hey, they're shooting down balloons, so it can't be all that bad.

(But remember, they're not space aliens)

 

You can't make this shit up, 

And, #FJB 

You can make it up though, and you did. Maybe the company is also conducting testing (I would sure hope so, anyway) but the US EPA...

You can make it up though, and you did. Maybe the company is also conducting testing (I would sure hope so, anyway) but the US EPA and the Ohio EPA are both very involved. This statement was from Tuesday; I'm sure there is more since then, too.

https://www.epa.gov/newsreleases/statement-regional-administrator-debra-shore-east-palestine-train-derailment

I didn't "make up" a damn thing.

And I find it maddening that you believe anything coming from our government about this.

Cool

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2/16/2023 8:07am

Good article here, but as a warning to those who want to blame the Biden administration, or subscribe to conspiracy theories that this was somehow intentional to distract us from 'what is really going on', it won't fit your narrative.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qze4/32-nasty-rail-workers-say-they-k…

 

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2/16/2023 8:10am Edited Date/Time 2/16/2023 8:16am

Can you confirm it’s authenticity?

And let’s not be insulting by pretending you don’t have a ‘narrative’.

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All politics aside:

Who trusts what “The Government” is saying/telling the local citizenry versus what those same local citizens are reporting…showing…is happening to themselves and their domestic pets - animals- livestock? 

Btw, it’s now reported -with video- that this train was on fire/dragging brakes over  20 miles BEFORE the derailment.

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2/16/2023 8:41am
indy_maico wrote:
Good article here, but as a warning to those who want to blame the Biden administration, or subscribe to conspiracy theories that this was somehow intentional...

Good article here, but as a warning to those who want to blame the Biden administration, or subscribe to conspiracy theories that this was somehow intentional to distract us from 'what is really going on', it won't fit your narrative.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/88qze4/32-nasty-rail-workers-say-they-k…

 

lol.

From the article: 

"It is too early to say what the long term impacts, if any, of 32N’s derailment will be." Then it goes into a long backstory about how the train system sucks.

Thanks. This absolutely demolishes any concerns the public should have as they are releasing known carcinogens into the air!!

2/16/2023 8:43am
So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality.  And not anyone from the EPA. ...

So now we're hearing that it's a company contracted by the train company, that's been testing water and air quality. 

And not anyone from the EPA. 

 

So while people are beginning to become sick, wild and domestic animals are dying, a lame ass pair of local shills in lab coats are standing around telling residents that all is well.

You're all just a bunch of hypochondriacs with head colds. 

 

And the transportation secretary is out bemoaning the fact that it's nothing but white guys showing up to do the work on construction projects. 

 

A side note:

We're seeing the current administration give more resources to criminal illegal immigrants, than lawful American citizens. 

And right before our very eyes. 

But hey, they're shooting down balloons, so it can't be all that bad.

(But remember, they're not space aliens)

 

You can't make this shit up, 

And, #FJB 

your comment surprised me as I fully agree with you. That doesn't happen often.

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2/16/2023 8:44am
TeamGreen wrote:
All politics aside: Who trusts what “The Government” is saying/telling the local citizenry versus what those same local citizens are reporting…showing…is happening to themselves and their...

All politics aside:

Who trusts what “The Government” is saying/telling the local citizenry versus what those same local citizens are reporting…showing…is happening to themselves and their domestic pets - animals- livestock? 

Btw, it’s now reported -with video- that this train was on fire/dragging brakes over  20 miles BEFORE the derailment.

Yeah, the article says the fire was seen on a doorbell camera 20 miles before the accident.

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lol. From the article:  "It is too early to say what the long term impacts, if any, of 32N’s derailment will be." Then it goes into...

lol.

From the article: 

"It is too early to say what the long term impacts, if any, of 32N’s derailment will be." Then it goes into a long backstory about how the train system sucks.

Thanks. This absolutely demolishes any concerns the public should have as they are releasing known carcinogens into the air!!

Exactly! 😂😂

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