First double

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Did my first double. Rip me apart. How’s the form looking. What should I fix? Any advice or insight is appreciated 🤘

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Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)

Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE video I watch on Vital is excruciating. Who thought this was a good idea 

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Good job. It'll get easier the more you do it and your form will improve the more comfortable you get. 

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zehn wrote:
Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays...

Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)

Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE video I watch on Vital is excruciating. Who thought this was a good idea 

😂😂😂 I don’t really know what else to do other then the attack position and head forward. I’ll try adding some dancing next time 😂😂😂

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SLAPAHO wrote:

Good job. It'll get easier the more you do it and your form will improve the more comfortable you get. 

Anything stand out that I should work on?

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SLAPAHO wrote:

Good job. It'll get easier the more you do it and your form will improve the more comfortable you get. 

lukemx91 wrote:

Anything stand out that I should work on?

Not really, body position and throttle were pretty spot on, imo.   Table tops are good practice for trying longer distance without worrying about not clearing... 

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You will get looser once you get comfortable, you won't see these as obstacles anymore and will start to position your body for what comes after your landing. 

The hard part is officially behind you. Now you know the speed it takes to huck something, and you can start applying that on different sections and tracks, too.

Right on, good for you!

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zehn wrote:
Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays...

Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)

Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE video I watch on Vital is excruciating. Who thought this was a good idea 

lukemx91 wrote:

😂😂😂 I don’t really know what else to do other then the attack position and head forward. I’ll try adding some dancing next time 😂😂😂

I think as you ride more you’ll loosen up up. You looked good here 

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Nairb#70 wrote:

At least there was no death rev!

What’s a death rev?

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SLAPAHO wrote:

Good job. It'll get easier the more you do it and your form will improve the more comfortable you get. 

lukemx91 wrote:

Anything stand out that I should work on?

Ok, I'm absolutely no expert but technique and form is something I've been working on over the last 1-2 years.  The only thing that I saw that stood out to me for improvement is your elbows are a little back and in.  Everybody always likes to say "elbows up".  It's better described as "elbows OUT".  Think about forming the shape of a diamond. It feels awkward at first, then once you get it right, it feels much better.  I describe it as if I were doing bench presses.  If your elbows are in next to your sides, there's no way you will be as strong as you possibly could be on bench press compared to your elbows being out.  By bringing your elbows out, you get more of your chest, core, shoulders and whole upper body involved in the movement which is a stronger position than elbows in and letting your triceps carry the load.

I still catch myself with elbows back or not out enough when I'm slacking or stressed out on a bigger jump I'm not comfortable on.  It happens.  I even focus now on keeping my elbows right (out in a diamond) when I'm riding slow through the pits.  Just needs to be a habit.  All else looked good.  

Work on strong elbow position - elbows out, shape of diamond.

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SLAPAHO wrote:

Good job. It'll get easier the more you do it and your form will improve the more comfortable you get. 

lukemx91 wrote:

Anything stand out that I should work on?

TbonesPop wrote:
Ok, I'm absolutely no expert but technique and form is something I've been working on over the last 1-2 years.  The only thing that I saw...

Ok, I'm absolutely no expert but technique and form is something I've been working on over the last 1-2 years.  The only thing that I saw that stood out to me for improvement is your elbows are a little back and in.  Everybody always likes to say "elbows up".  It's better described as "elbows OUT".  Think about forming the shape of a diamond. It feels awkward at first, then once you get it right, it feels much better.  I describe it as if I were doing bench presses.  If your elbows are in next to your sides, there's no way you will be as strong as you possibly could be on bench press compared to your elbows being out.  By bringing your elbows out, you get more of your chest, core, shoulders and whole upper body involved in the movement which is a stronger position than elbows in and letting your triceps carry the load.

I still catch myself with elbows back or not out enough when I'm slacking or stressed out on a bigger jump I'm not comfortable on.  It happens.  I even focus now on keeping my elbows right (out in a diamond) when I'm riding slow through the pits.  Just needs to be a habit.  All else looked good.  

Work on strong elbow position - elbows out, shape of diamond.

Hell yeah, I’ll try that. I was trying to focus on that for a bit but my balance on the bike was off so whenever I let off the throttle or hit the brakes I’d kinda flop to the front over the bars. 

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zehn wrote:
Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays...

Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)

Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE video I watch on Vital is excruciating. Who thought this was a good idea 

I'd rather be stiff than out of control scrubbing/cross jumping and revving the bike until the valves are floating. Other than leaning back his form is honestly pretty good. After watching Jett for a few years, I've noticed his head seems to always been in-line with his bars. I've been trying to emulate it every weekend. Great job OP! 

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Bigger hit than 75% of the members here have done. Nice work bro

Cheers man! 

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9/30/2024 10:42pm
zehn wrote:
Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays...

Position is decent but holy shit that’s the stiffest form I’ve seen (insert dick joke here)

Unrelated but good god the 15-20 second video ad that plays at the beginning of EVERY SINGLE video I watch on Vital is excruciating. Who thought this was a good idea 

I'd rather be stiff than out of control scrubbing/cross jumping and revving the bike until the valves are floating. Other than leaning back his form is...

I'd rather be stiff than out of control scrubbing/cross jumping and revving the bike until the valves are floating. Other than leaning back his form is honestly pretty good. After watching Jett for a few years, I've noticed his head seems to always been in-line with his bars. I've been trying to emulate it every weekend. Great job OP! 

Cheers! Are you talking about me leaning back slightly on the take off? Cus I never noticed that before I always just thought I was naturally shoving my hips back to counteract the rear kicking up. I tend to land a little front wheel heavy and just saw a clip saying that could potentially be caused by me leaning back right before the takeoff which loads the rear suspension and causing it to kick me forward. I’ll have to try really driving my head forward on the take off next track day and see if it sends me more leveled. 

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I can't jump for beans but I went to a riding school once and here's what we were told about learning to jump. Find a jump with no bad landings like a table top or small to medium sized jump to flat. Practice landing on the front wheel a few times, then practice landing on the back wheel, then landing with both wheels at the same time. The idea is to learn how to correct in the air so if the takeoff goes less than ideal, like you hit a kicker or wind up nose high or sideways you teach your auto pilot to naturally correct so you land safely. Other than that I got nothing other than practice practice practice.    

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Nairb#70 wrote:

At least there was no death rev!

lukemx91 wrote:

What’s a death rev?

Also called a panic rev. It's when you pin the throttle in mid air out of fear of coming up short or casing it. Unfortunately it usually locks out the suspension resulting in a big digger or get off.

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Well done! Congratulations. 

My first double was much smaller than that. My friend teased me about only jumping small doubles and called them "Grandma with a tricycle" doubles. 😆 All my friends refer to small jumps with that term to this day! 

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We'll use this as the X Brand Forum Check-In on the MotoXpod Show tonight. Not as a critique of you, but as a discussion of the first time we did a double or are attempting a new obstacle that has us nervous. Good job, btw. I'd agree the body position looked a bit stiff, but as you get more comfortable you'll move around a bit more. That was a decent gap for your first double. 

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10/1/2024 9:52am Edited Date/Time 10/1/2024 9:52am

Bigger hit than 75% of the members here have done. Nice work bro

75%? Yikes!

And his first one?

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We'll use this as the X Brand Forum Check-In on the MotoXpod Show tonight. Not as a critique of you, but as a discussion of the...

We'll use this as the X Brand Forum Check-In on the MotoXpod Show tonight. Not as a critique of you, but as a discussion of the first time we did a double or are attempting a new obstacle that has us nervous. Good job, btw. I'd agree the body position looked a bit stiff, but as you get more comfortable you'll move around a bit more. That was a decent gap for your first double. 

Hey that’s cool, drop me a link on where I can find the show 

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I understand your stoke. There is nothing like greasing a transition. I don’t care what it’s on skis, bicycle, skateboard, wakeboard, car. There’s no better feeling of pulling out of a new track after arriving with a big ol jump in your head and getting it down, sometimes on the first lap of the first moto! - just like it sucks when you drive away and still havnt nutted up. Right now I’m pissed Im bouncing the main jump at Perris Raceway when I used to grease that thing going both ways a million times. The only advice I could give is be careful of spinning your tire coming up to and on the faces and get you speed up before the lip so you don’t loop out 

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We'll use this as the X Brand Forum Check-In on the MotoXpod Show tonight. Not as a critique of you, but as a discussion of the...

We'll use this as the X Brand Forum Check-In on the MotoXpod Show tonight. Not as a critique of you, but as a discussion of the first time we did a double or are attempting a new obstacle that has us nervous. Good job, btw. I'd agree the body position looked a bit stiff, but as you get more comfortable you'll move around a bit more. That was a decent gap for your first double. 

Yeah this thread reminded me of your recent content talking about nutting up for that gap at the Pulp ride day. It’s something every motocrosser has to deal with at one point or another.  After battling and losing to the demons of LaRoccos Leap I bet J. Moiseman could add to this thread 😂

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As a kid every time I hit a new jump, like the uphill blind double at Piru for those that remember. The second time always made me more nervous.

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As a kid every time I hit a new jump, like the uphill blind double at Piru for those that remember. The second time always made...

As a kid every time I hit a new jump, like the uphill blind double at Piru for those that remember. The second time always made me more nervous.

Once I did it I had to pull of cause of the adrenaline. But I went back and did it another 4 times in a row so it started to feel less intimidating. I also realized a lot of the jumps on the track were about the same speed so I actually cleared two other ones of similair size for the first time as well  the same day. Definitly felt sickkkkk until I see the little menaces throwing whips. I wonder how long it takes to get to the point where your comfortable going sideways at 50 km in the air. This is my 2nd season riding so I’m in no rush. Just want to do some cool shit before I’m to old 😂

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