Titanium bolts

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Has anyone used cheap Chinese titanium bolts? Wanted to know what the quality was like and if they’re worth purchasing at all?

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2F…
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FWYT 3/17/2019 10:19am
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I've actually been buying a bunch of the smaller sizes. M6 and M8. Quality seems OK for those low-load areas. I sure as hell wouldn't trust an axle something from them but the little ones here and there, seems OK to me. Delivery takes a while and Ti sure is pretty. There are multiple sources and some seem to allow you to consolidate orders so do some looking around.

Pay careful attention to pitch and size. While everything I have received has been exactly what I ordered; I mis-measured several times resulting in major "D'ooooohhhh!!!!" each time. Laughing Laughing
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Honda Man 66 3/17/2019 12:12pm
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If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc. it is amazing how light they are. You can barely tell you are holding one in your hand.
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Honda Man 66 wrote:
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc...
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc. it is amazing how light they are. You can barely tell you are holding one in your hand.
Whoa! Really? Good to know!
Does that mean these various used R1 hardware lots I see on eBay have Ti in them?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/04-06-Yamaha-R1-Fairing-Bolts-Screws-Hardware/…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/09-2014-Yamaha-YFZR1-R1-Misc-Hardware-Bolts-Sp…-
brooklynevans 3/17/2019 1:06pm
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FWYT wrote:
I've actually been buying a bunch of the smaller sizes. M6 and M8. Quality seems OK for those low-load areas. I sure as hell wouldn't trust...
I've actually been buying a bunch of the smaller sizes. M6 and M8. Quality seems OK for those low-load areas. I sure as hell wouldn't trust an axle something from them but the little ones here and there, seems OK to me. Delivery takes a while and Ti sure is pretty. There are multiple sources and some seem to allow you to consolidate orders so do some looking around.

Pay careful attention to pitch and size. While everything I have received has been exactly what I ordered; I mis-measured several times resulting in major "D'ooooohhhh!!!!" each time. Laughing Laughing
Thanks for the reply!

Good to know. I’ll give a few a go.
I wouldn’t trust them on hard wearing parts either, basically just for looks.

Is it 1mm thread pitch I need as I see most are that size?

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brooklynevans 3/17/2019 1:06pm
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Honda Man 66 wrote:
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc...
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc. it is amazing how light they are. You can barely tell you are holding one in your hand.
Never knew that! Thanks for the info
Squishy501 3/17/2019 2:41pm
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FWYT wrote:
I've actually been buying a bunch of the smaller sizes. M6 and M8. Quality seems OK for those low-load areas. I sure as hell wouldn't trust...
I've actually been buying a bunch of the smaller sizes. M6 and M8. Quality seems OK for those low-load areas. I sure as hell wouldn't trust an axle something from them but the little ones here and there, seems OK to me. Delivery takes a while and Ti sure is pretty. There are multiple sources and some seem to allow you to consolidate orders so do some looking around.

Pay careful attention to pitch and size. While everything I have received has been exactly what I ordered; I mis-measured several times resulting in major "D'ooooohhhh!!!!" each time. Laughing Laughing
brooklynevans wrote:
Thanks for the reply! Good to know. I’ll give a few a go. I wouldn’t trust them on hard wearing parts either, basically just for looks...
Thanks for the reply!

Good to know. I’ll give a few a go.
I wouldn’t trust them on hard wearing parts either, basically just for looks.

Is it 1mm thread pitch I need as I see most are that size?
I used to get a set off ebay once a year for my bikes from a guy in austrailia. DUnno where he went to but it was really reasonable and the stuff has been great!
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DTR830 3/17/2019 6:14pm
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Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike.


What bike are they going for? I have a document for every bolt size & where they go for a 2017 ktm 350sxf
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brooklynevans 3/18/2019 12:51am
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DTR830 wrote:
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike. What bike...
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike.


What bike are they going for? I have a document for every bolt size & where they go for a 2017 ktm 350sxf
Thank you.

They’ll be for a 19 SX250
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Rickyisms 3/18/2019 9:45am
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DTR830 wrote:
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike. What bike...
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike.


What bike are they going for? I have a document for every bolt size & where they go for a 2017 ktm 350sxf
Could you post the document? I have two 16 125s I'd like to do.
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Honda Man 66 wrote:
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc...
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc. it is amazing how light they are. You can barely tell you are holding one in your hand.
FWYT wrote:
Whoa! Really? Good to know!
Does that mean these various used R1 hardware lots I see on eBay have Ti in them?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/04-06-Yamaha-R1-Fairing-Bolts-Screws-Hardware/…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/09-2014-Yamaha-YFZR1-R1-Misc-Hardware-Bolts-Sp…-
No, not really. Yamaha doesn't use Ti bolts on production machines. They're just your run of the mill button head bolts.
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DTR830 wrote:
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike. What bike...
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike.


What bike are they going for? I have a document for every bolt size & where they go for a 2017 ktm 350sxf
Rickyisms wrote:
Could you post the document? I have two 16 125s I'd like to do.
Agreed. The 2018 350SX in my garage wouldn't turn down some ti either.
Honda Man 66 3/18/2019 10:15am
3/18/2019 10:15am
Honda Man 66 wrote:
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc...
If you can find someone parting out an R1, there are lots of ti bolts on them. Perfect ti bolts for shrouds, fenders, side panels, etc. it is amazing how light they are. You can barely tell you are holding one in your hand.
FWYT wrote:
Whoa! Really? Good to know!
Does that mean these various used R1 hardware lots I see on eBay have Ti in them?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/04-06-Yamaha-R1-Fairing-Bolts-Screws-Hardware/…

https://www.ebay.com/itm/09-2014-Yamaha-YFZR1-R1-Misc-Hardware-Bolts-Sp…-
40acres wrote:
No, not really. Yamaha doesn't use Ti bolts on production machines. They're just your run of the mill button head bolts.
The R1 ti bolts I am referring to have 12pt heads. They are ti.
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40acres 3/18/2019 10:24am
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Honda Man 66 wrote:
The R1 ti bolts I am referring to have 12pt heads. They are ti.
Sorry man, they are not Ti. They're actually aluminum.
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DTR830 3/18/2019 11:34am
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DTR830 wrote:
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike. What bike...
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike.


What bike are they going for? I have a document for every bolt size & where they go for a 2017 ktm 350sxf
Rickyisms wrote:
Could you post the document? I have two 16 125s I'd like to do.
Front Brake Caliper- M8x30 (2)
Fork Pinch M8x25 (4)
Bar clamp M8x25 (4)
Triple Clamps M8x40 (4) & M8x50 (4)
Fork Guards M6x12 (6)
Rotor Bolts M6x13 (12)
Front Fender M6x16 (4)
Front Plate M6x10 (1)
Hand Brake clamp M6x25 (4)
Frame guard M5x12 (5)
Exhaust M6x35 (1) & M8x35 (1)
Rear Brake pedal tip M5x10 (2)
Sprockets M8x26 (6) & M8 nut (6)
Shock Bolt M10x52 (2)
Seat Bolt M6x25 (2)
Chain guide M8x30 (2) & M6x40 (1)
Sub frame M8x18 (2)
Motor Mount M8x20 (6)
Chain slide M6x13 (2)

Clutch Cover
M6x45 (3)
M6x25 (6)
M6x20 (2)

Ignition Cover
M6x30 (8)

Water Pump
M6x25 (2) M6x45 (2)

M5x10 (2)
M5x12 (5)
M6x10 (1)
M6x12 (6)
M6x13 (14) Rotor
M6x16 (4)
M6x20 (2)
M6x25 (14)
M6x30 (8)
M6x35 (1)
M6x40 (1)
M6x45 (5)
M8x18 (2)
M8x20 (6)
M8x25 (8)
M8x30 (4)
M8x35 (1)
M8x40 (4)
M8x50 (4)
M10x50 (2)
Sprockets M8x26 (6) & M8 nut (6)





Seems I can’t find the most update list on this phone, I have since added others. Sorry.
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Honda Man 66 3/18/2019 11:37am
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Honda Man 66 wrote:
The R1 ti bolts I am referring to have 12pt heads. They are ti.
40acres wrote:
Sorry man, they are not Ti. They're actually aluminum.
I stand corrected. The Yamaha mechanic that gave them to me told me they were ti. If they are not, they are still super light and perfect for attaching bodywork.
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40acres 3/18/2019 11:42am
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Honda Man 66 wrote:
I stand corrected. The Yamaha mechanic that gave them to me told me they were ti. If they are not, they are still super light and...
I stand corrected. The Yamaha mechanic that gave them to me told me they were ti. If they are not, they are still super light and perfect for attaching bodywork.
Yeah, they are super light because they are aluminum. Those bolts are actually only supposed to be used one time as they stretch. Perfect to reuse on mx bodywork but you cannot torque them to spec twice.
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Honda Man 66 3/18/2019 1:02pm
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Honda Man 66 wrote:
I stand corrected. The Yamaha mechanic that gave them to me told me they were ti. If they are not, they are still super light and...
I stand corrected. The Yamaha mechanic that gave them to me told me they were ti. If they are not, they are still super light and perfect for attaching bodywork.
40acres wrote:
Yeah, they are super light because they are aluminum. Those bolts are actually only supposed to be used one time as they stretch. Perfect to reuse...
Yeah, they are super light because they are aluminum. Those bolts are actually only supposed to be used one time as they stretch. Perfect to reuse on mx bodywork but you cannot torque them to spec twice.
I might torque my sprocket bolts, but not the bolts holding my side panels on.
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Lol, that would be excessiveLaughing

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DTR830 wrote:
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike. What bike...
Around 90% of my bike is bolts from ebay/china. Zero complaints for the year so far & will order again for the next bike.


What bike are they going for? I have a document for every bolt size & where they go for a 2017 ktm 350sxf
Rickyisms wrote:
Could you post the document? I have two 16 125s I'd like to do.
DTR830 wrote:
Front Brake Caliper- M8x30 (2) Fork Pinch M8x25 (4) Bar clamp M8x25 (4) Triple Clamps M8x40 (4) & M8x50 (4) Fork Guards M6x12 (6) Rotor Bolts...
Front Brake Caliper- M8x30 (2)
Fork Pinch M8x25 (4)
Bar clamp M8x25 (4)
Triple Clamps M8x40 (4) & M8x50 (4)
Fork Guards M6x12 (6)
Rotor Bolts M6x13 (12)
Front Fender M6x16 (4)
Front Plate M6x10 (1)
Hand Brake clamp M6x25 (4)
Frame guard M5x12 (5)
Exhaust M6x35 (1) & M8x35 (1)
Rear Brake pedal tip M5x10 (2)
Sprockets M8x26 (6) & M8 nut (6)
Shock Bolt M10x52 (2)
Seat Bolt M6x25 (2)
Chain guide M8x30 (2) & M6x40 (1)
Sub frame M8x18 (2)
Motor Mount M8x20 (6)
Chain slide M6x13 (2)

Clutch Cover
M6x45 (3)
M6x25 (6)
M6x20 (2)

Ignition Cover
M6x30 (8)

Water Pump
M6x25 (2) M6x45 (2)

M5x10 (2)
M5x12 (5)
M6x10 (1)
M6x12 (6)
M6x13 (14) Rotor
M6x16 (4)
M6x20 (2)
M6x25 (14)
M6x30 (8)
M6x35 (1)
M6x40 (1)
M6x45 (5)
M8x18 (2)
M8x20 (6)
M8x25 (8)
M8x30 (4)
M8x35 (1)
M8x40 (4)
M8x50 (4)
M10x50 (2)
Sprockets M8x26 (6) & M8 nut (6)





Seems I can’t find the most update list on this phone, I have since added others. Sorry.
Thank you brother!
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Rickyisms wrote:
Could you post the document? I have two 16 125s I'd like to do.
DTR830 wrote:
Front Brake Caliper- M8x30 (2) Fork Pinch M8x25 (4) Bar clamp M8x25 (4) Triple Clamps M8x40 (4) & M8x50 (4) Fork Guards M6x12 (6) Rotor Bolts...
Front Brake Caliper- M8x30 (2)
Fork Pinch M8x25 (4)
Bar clamp M8x25 (4)
Triple Clamps M8x40 (4) & M8x50 (4)
Fork Guards M6x12 (6)
Rotor Bolts M6x13 (12)
Front Fender M6x16 (4)
Front Plate M6x10 (1)
Hand Brake clamp M6x25 (4)
Frame guard M5x12 (5)
Exhaust M6x35 (1) & M8x35 (1)
Rear Brake pedal tip M5x10 (2)
Sprockets M8x26 (6) & M8 nut (6)
Shock Bolt M10x52 (2)
Seat Bolt M6x25 (2)
Chain guide M8x30 (2) & M6x40 (1)
Sub frame M8x18 (2)
Motor Mount M8x20 (6)
Chain slide M6x13 (2)

Clutch Cover
M6x45 (3)
M6x25 (6)
M6x20 (2)

Ignition Cover
M6x30 (8)

Water Pump
M6x25 (2) M6x45 (2)

M5x10 (2)
M5x12 (5)
M6x10 (1)
M6x12 (6)
M6x13 (14) Rotor
M6x16 (4)
M6x20 (2)
M6x25 (14)
M6x30 (8)
M6x35 (1)
M6x40 (1)
M6x45 (5)
M8x18 (2)
M8x20 (6)
M8x25 (8)
M8x30 (4)
M8x35 (1)
M8x40 (4)
M8x50 (4)
M10x50 (2)
Sprockets M8x26 (6) & M8 nut (6)





Seems I can’t find the most update list on this phone, I have since added others. Sorry.
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Thank you brother!
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What kind of compounds are you using to hold the Ti bolts in place? My triple clamp pinch bolts seem to be loosening after almost every ride which is quite frankly, kind of scary.
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mikejones202 wrote:
What kind of compounds are you using to hold the Ti bolts in place? My triple clamp pinch bolts seem to be loosening after almost every...
What kind of compounds are you using to hold the Ti bolts in place? My triple clamp pinch bolts seem to be loosening after almost every ride which is quite frankly, kind of scary.
all the ti bolts i have are greased with ceramic grease.
Never had any issues with loosing it on the clamps and they are set with 15NM
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I've been buying Chinese ti bolts for a couple of years, I confirm with the suppliers before purchase that the threads are 'rolled' not 'cut', haven't had a problem yet.
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Johnny Oz wrote:
I've been buying Chinese ti bolts for a couple of years, I confirm with the suppliers before purchase that the threads are 'rolled' not 'cut', haven't...
I've been buying Chinese ti bolts for a couple of years, I confirm with the suppliers before purchase that the threads are 'rolled' not 'cut', haven't had a problem yet.
Do you have some fave suppliers you'd like to pass on?
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Johnny Oz wrote:
I've been buying Chinese ti bolts for a couple of years, I confirm with the suppliers before purchase that the threads are 'rolled' not 'cut', haven't...
I've been buying Chinese ti bolts for a couple of years, I confirm with the suppliers before purchase that the threads are 'rolled' not 'cut', haven't had a problem yet.
FWYT wrote:
Do you have some fave suppliers you'd like to pass on?
I'll go through my ebay history and see if l can find the sellers.
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FWYT wrote:
I've actually been buying a bunch of the smaller sizes. M6 and M8. Quality seems OK for those low-load areas. I sure as hell wouldn't trust...
I've actually been buying a bunch of the smaller sizes. M6 and M8. Quality seems OK for those low-load areas. I sure as hell wouldn't trust an axle something from them but the little ones here and there, seems OK to me. Delivery takes a while and Ti sure is pretty. There are multiple sources and some seem to allow you to consolidate orders so do some looking around.

Pay careful attention to pitch and size. While everything I have received has been exactly what I ordered; I mis-measured several times resulting in major "D'ooooohhhh!!!!" each time. Laughing Laughing
I have the same experience. Just make sure the bolts you order are Gr. 5 alloy, not "pure titanium".
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I am using some of the 6mmx1 bolts from RMATV (warp 9)? with no problems. I'm not ready to trust the sprocket bolts just yet. With a high grade of TI. cutting vs. rolling threads should make no difference with the low torque values used on a dirt bike. As for torqueing aluminum bolts more than once I have been using the same aluminum 7075 t6 triple clamp bolts for at least eight years. They go from bike to bike no breakage. With both aluminum and TI. you must use anti seize on the threads.
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alien wrote:
I am using some of the 6mmx1 bolts from RMATV (warp 9)? with no problems. I'm not ready to trust the sprocket bolts just yet. With...
I am using some of the 6mmx1 bolts from RMATV (warp 9)? with no problems. I'm not ready to trust the sprocket bolts just yet. With a high grade of TI. cutting vs. rolling threads should make no difference with the low torque values used on a dirt bike. As for torqueing aluminum bolts more than once I have been using the same aluminum 7075 t6 triple clamp bolts for at least eight years. They go from bike to bike no breakage. With both aluminum and TI. you must use anti seize on the threads.
do you use the stock torque value on the titanium triple clamp bolts?
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dirtbikefreak wrote:
do you use the stock torque value on the titanium triple clamp bolts?
If you're using titanium bolts (or aluminum) in aluminum threads, you should also use anti-seize. The anti-seize will act as a lubricant, so for the same torque as a dry bolt, you'll get more clamping tension. Or in other words, you need to reduce the torque on a ti bolt with anti-seize vs. a dry steel bolt. For Loctite C5-A anti-seize, it works out to about a 40% reduction in torque vs. the stock values (that are based on a dry steel bolt).
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