KTM forks compatibility

kary
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Hi guys !

Long story short, I'm looking for a spring fork for my '21 250 FC.
I found a good deal on a '10 300 EXC (European model I think ?) with Ohlins inserts.

I'm not familiar with these Euro bikes and I wanted to know what will be needed to mount these forks on my bike ?
I think the fork will have the old "big" axle and my bike has the "small" axle ?
Which lugs can be mounted on these forks ? Any lugs from any modern WP fork ?

Some pics of the 300 EXC '10 I found on internet :





Many thanks !
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Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front wheel and front brake.

These are open cartridge forks ... good for enduro, okay for MX.
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YZed250 wrote:
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front...
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front wheel and front brake.

These are open cartridge forks ... good for enduro, okay for MX.
Thanks !
Are you sure about the wheel ? From what I could find on this forum, the pre-2015 models (not sure about 2015 ?) used the large axle while the new ones use the small axle ?
The cartridges inside the forks are not the stock opened ones but Ohlins TTX inserts, I'll have to revalve them for moto and I'll be good to go I think !

However, many thanks for your help, appreciate it !
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YZed250 wrote:
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front...
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front wheel and front brake.

These are open cartridge forks ... good for enduro, okay for MX.
kary wrote:
Thanks ! Are you sure about the wheel ? From what I could find on this forum, the pre-2015 models (not sure about 2015 ?) used...
Thanks !
Are you sure about the wheel ? From what I could find on this forum, the pre-2015 models (not sure about 2015 ?) used the large axle while the new ones use the small axle ?
The cartridges inside the forks are not the stock opened ones but Ohlins TTX inserts, I'll have to revalve them for moto and I'll be good to go I think !

However, many thanks for your help, appreciate it !
Yes, the EXC and FC front wheels are identical in dimensions.
Use the EXC wheel spacers with the EXC axle. FC wheel spacers with the FC axle.
EXC wheel spacers fit FC wheel and vice versa.
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Like was said above, you can change the spacers and make your wheel work. I do think the offset on the forks are 2mm difference though. You may not be able to notice and you make even like it better. I think the length is different also, but you can slide the forks flush to make it work.

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Many thanks guys ! I just ordered it, I hope it'll make the bike even better than it already is !
1/11/2022 10:25am
YZed250 wrote:
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front...
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front wheel and front brake.

These are open cartridge forks ... good for enduro, okay for MX.
Are the older open or closed cartridges better for both? I’ve been eyeing up a swap like this as a 4cs remedy.
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YZed250 wrote:
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front...
Yes, the whole front fork and axle will be plug and play. You can install the EXC forks in your FC triple clamps, with FC front wheel and front brake.

These are open cartridge forks ... good for enduro, okay for MX.
Rickyisms wrote:
Are the older open or closed cartridges better for both? I’ve been eyeing up a swap like this as a 4cs remedy.
The closed cartridge forks are some of the favorites for KTM riders, especially the offroad crowd.

I'm not the biggest fan of the closed cartridge forks ... I think they suck for racing over big successive bumps on corner entry ... a lot of people rave about them, maybe I just haven't ridden a good set yet and am too familiar with what a set of current Yamaha forks is like. I had the closed cartridge forks on my 2013 350SXF and 2009 300XC. They work best on my 300XC trail bike.

I haven't ridden 4CS, but a lot of guys say they'd prefer anything over those forks.

I think one of the earlier open cartridge forks might be a decent substitute to a set of 4CS, but you would definitely need to valve and spring them for your weight.
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Spacer swap should be all needed for axle size difference. A word of caution on the caliper mounting bolts though. I mounted a set of forks from a 19 350sxf on a 14 350sxf while getting the 14’s serviced. And the caliper bolts were longer and would have interfered with the rotor. Just check before tightening everything up. If I remember correctly, the difference was the thickness of the caliper mount on forks. Just swap bolts with whatever forks/caliper you mount.
kary
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Thanks ! And what about the fork guards ? They'll mount on these old lugs ?
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Can only speak for the 14 vs 19-22 350. Mounting points are different. And NOT interchangeable.
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The WP CC forks are good forks when setup well. I have a set on my FC350 and a set of CVs on my TC250. Feel between the CV and CC are similar (conventional midvalve in my CV), with the CV being overall better basically everywhere. Maybe not a few grand better for some though.

The wrap-around fork guards used on the earlier gen KTMs are required for the CC. The ones from the AER, 4Cs, etc. won't work.
1/26/2022 10:08pm
If I remember right(not likely) the pds era forks are 13mm shorter then the 17+ ..
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If anyone comes across this is in the future, make sure you get your front wheel spacers seated all of the way inside the wheel.

I put large axle Ohlins RFX48 forks on my 2021 KTM 350 and I had one heck of a time figuring out why the wheel and axle were in a bind. After a few hours of swapping wheels and spacers I finally realized the spacers were not properly seated inside the wheel.

Sounds simple, but I had to physically move around the hub spacer inside the front wheel to get the spacers to completely seat.

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5/2/2024 4:42am
If I remember right(not likely) the pds era forks are 13mm shorter then the 17+ ..

Would you just slide the forks out of the top of the clamp by 13mm? 

I'm wanting to put some ohlins forks from a 2018 TC250 on a 2005 KTM 400... Not sure if its going to work... but i suspect the only difference is the fork guard mountings...  (will have to use the correct wheel spacers, triple clamps and fork guards...?)

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated

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