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Edited Date/Time 1/24/2012 6:29pm
This might have something to do with the media black out of your guy. Dry
Bain Capital Owns Clear Channel (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Etc.)
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Well how about that.
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And which one of those host has been backing Mitt?
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He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to his speech after the Iowa caucuses, I saw why - he just stands there and rambles. He's incoherent. Why would you put him on TV on a regular basis?
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WhKnuckle wrote:
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to...
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to his speech after the Iowa caucuses, I saw why - he just stands there and rambles. He's incoherent. Why would you put him on TV on a regular basis?
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs.

If you don't think he has a chance, why do you spend so much time belittling him?? You don't invest the same amount of time belittling the other candidates that don't stand a chance....I'm just curious as to the reason you have a hard on for bashing Ron Paul???

IF you REALLY believe he doesn't have a chance, just ignore him and he'll go away.

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WhKnuckle wrote:
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to...
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to his speech after the Iowa caucuses, I saw why - he just stands there and rambles. He's incoherent. Why would you put him on TV on a regular basis?
Titan1 wrote:
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs. If you don't think he has a...
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs.

If you don't think he has a chance, why do you spend so much time belittling him?? You don't invest the same amount of time belittling the other candidates that don't stand a chance....I'm just curious as to the reason you have a hard on for bashing Ron Paul???

IF you REALLY believe he doesn't have a chance, just ignore him and he'll go away.
He'll go away regardless. I belittle him because it's an insult to our country that such a whackjob runs for president in a major party. I belittle him because I'm offended by him. He's the political version of a televangelist.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to...
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to his speech after the Iowa caucuses, I saw why - he just stands there and rambles. He's incoherent. Why would you put him on TV on a regular basis?
Titan1 wrote:
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs. If you don't think he has a...
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs.

If you don't think he has a chance, why do you spend so much time belittling him?? You don't invest the same amount of time belittling the other candidates that don't stand a chance....I'm just curious as to the reason you have a hard on for bashing Ron Paul???

IF you REALLY believe he doesn't have a chance, just ignore him and he'll go away.
WhKnuckle wrote:
He'll go away regardless. I belittle him because it's an insult to our country that such a whackjob runs for president in a major party. I...
He'll go away regardless. I belittle him because it's an insult to our country that such a whackjob runs for president in a major party. I belittle him because I'm offended by him. He's the political version of a televangelist.
LOL...spoken like a true partisan heard animal, that is afraid of TRUE change.

(and you never answered my question about all the Romney scandels you seem to have the inside track on?-in the other thread)
1/13/2012 9:45am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2012 12:08pm
What else is strange is how all of those guys criticize Romney for the Massachusetts health care plan and for being too moderate. It must be reverse psychology. Glenn beck even said he would go third party for Paul over Gingrich and how much he thinks Paul is right on in his domestic positions especially in regards to the Fed. Yeah they are pumping Romney up like crazy.
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1/13/2012 9:47am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2012 10:10am
Titan1 wrote:
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs. If you don't think he has a...
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs.

If you don't think he has a chance, why do you spend so much time belittling him?? You don't invest the same amount of time belittling the other candidates that don't stand a chance....I'm just curious as to the reason you have a hard on for bashing Ron Paul???

IF you REALLY believe he doesn't have a chance, just ignore him and he'll go away.
WhKnuckle wrote:
He'll go away regardless. I belittle him because it's an insult to our country that such a whackjob runs for president in a major party. I...
He'll go away regardless. I belittle him because it's an insult to our country that such a whackjob runs for president in a major party. I belittle him because I'm offended by him. He's the political version of a televangelist.
Titan1 wrote:
LOL...spoken like a true partisan heard animal, that is afraid of TRUE change. (and you never answered my question about all the Romney scandels you seem...
LOL...spoken like a true partisan heard animal, that is afraid of TRUE change.

(and you never answered my question about all the Romney scandels you seem to have the inside track on?-in the other thread)
Yeah, I did, you just did the same thing the Ron Paul people do - "Oh, that's not a scandal". Bain buys a controlling interest in a company, they bankrupt it, Bain makes 10 million dollars and leaves behind 750 people who are unemployed and the government has to put 44 million taxpayer dollars into its underfunded pension plan to even pay partial benefits to those who worked their entire lives there. And the best part is, that's exactly what Romney recommended that we do with the auto industry - except then you'd be talking about 1 million unemployed, and 550,000 pensioners whose pensions would suddenly be unfunded, forcing the governement to come in with - how much? 100 billion? More?

No, that's not a scandal.

How about a guy who threatens a young woman with excommunication if she gets an abortion? And he did it multiple times to other people, in some cases threatening to not only excommunicate the woman but her spouse as well?

How about a guy who can't figure out how to get the family to Canada for vacation and decides the way to do it is to strap the dog to the roof of the car?

Yeah, that's the guy we want running America. And that's just the beginning.

No, none of that stuff is a scandal. "Old news".
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WhKnuckle wrote:
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to...
He's blacked out on every channel for the same reason - he's a fringe candidate who has no chance of winning. And when I listened to his speech after the Iowa caucuses, I saw why - he just stands there and rambles. He's incoherent. Why would you put him on TV on a regular basis?
Titan1 wrote:
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs. If you don't think he has a...
You call it "incoherent" millions of other Americans call it "real" and "not staged" and "authentic"...All things DC needs.

If you don't think he has a chance, why do you spend so much time belittling him?? You don't invest the same amount of time belittling the other candidates that don't stand a chance....I'm just curious as to the reason you have a hard on for bashing Ron Paul???

IF you REALLY believe he doesn't have a chance, just ignore him and he'll go away.
Which millions? The ones that want Paul because he says he'll legalize marijuana? Maybe that's why the incoherent rambling makes sense to them.
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Hut wrote:
This might have something to do with the media black out of your guy. :dry: [url=http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/bain-capital-owns-clear-channel-rush-limbaugh-sean-hannity-glenn-beck-michael-savage-etc]Bain Capital Owns Clear Channel (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck...
This might have something to do with the media black out of your guy. Dry
Bain Capital Owns Clear Channel (Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, Glenn Beck, Michael Savage, Etc.)
The biggest guy in that list (Limbaugh) is not a Romney supporter.
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There's no point talking to someone as brainwashed as you. Seriously, you and all those Ron Paul lunatics need intervention, quick.

There's a reason he's ignored by the media - he's a crazy person running for President of the United States. He literally thinks there's different kinds of currency. He thinks the government was behind 911. He thinks the gold in Fort Knox isn't really gold. He opposes the Civil Rights Act. He wants to legalize all drugs. He wants to pull our military out of all foreign bases, never mind the fact that they're there because we have treaties that dictate that they stay there. His newsletters contain racist, anti-semitic and outrageous conspiracies. He doesn't think government has any role in regulating business, never mind that fact that lack of government regulation created the worst financial disaster in 60 years and nearly drove the country into a depression. In all his years in government, he has a grand total of ONE bill that he ever wrote that became law.

He's the crazy uncle who lives in the attic, and people think he's a messianic figure. Tell me how that differs from all the other doomsday cult figures in the past.
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Bob693 wrote:
And which one of those host has been backing Mitt?
I honestly have no idea as I do not listen to any of those kooks named in the title. I read the article and thought it was interesting enough and good for discussion here.
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1/13/2012 10:36am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2012 10:41am
As I said, there's no point arguing with a brainwashed person. So, by all means, go vote for him. 12.4% of Republicans can't all be wrong.
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1/13/2012 11:02am Edited Date/Time 1/13/2012 11:08am
WhKnuckle wrote:
He'll go away regardless. I belittle him because it's an insult to our country that such a whackjob runs for president in a major party. I...
He'll go away regardless. I belittle him because it's an insult to our country that such a whackjob runs for president in a major party. I belittle him because I'm offended by him. He's the political version of a televangelist.
Titan1 wrote:
LOL...spoken like a true partisan heard animal, that is afraid of TRUE change. (and you never answered my question about all the Romney scandels you seem...
LOL...spoken like a true partisan heard animal, that is afraid of TRUE change.

(and you never answered my question about all the Romney scandels you seem to have the inside track on?-in the other thread)
WhKnuckle wrote:
Yeah, I did, you just did the same thing the Ron Paul people do - "Oh, that's not a scandal". Bain buys a controlling interest in...
Yeah, I did, you just did the same thing the Ron Paul people do - "Oh, that's not a scandal". Bain buys a controlling interest in a company, they bankrupt it, Bain makes 10 million dollars and leaves behind 750 people who are unemployed and the government has to put 44 million taxpayer dollars into its underfunded pension plan to even pay partial benefits to those who worked their entire lives there. And the best part is, that's exactly what Romney recommended that we do with the auto industry - except then you'd be talking about 1 million unemployed, and 550,000 pensioners whose pensions would suddenly be unfunded, forcing the governement to come in with - how much? 100 billion? More?

No, that's not a scandal.

How about a guy who threatens a young woman with excommunication if she gets an abortion? And he did it multiple times to other people, in some cases threatening to not only excommunicate the woman but her spouse as well?

How about a guy who can't figure out how to get the family to Canada for vacation and decides the way to do it is to strap the dog to the roof of the car?

Yeah, that's the guy we want running America. And that's just the beginning.

No, none of that stuff is a scandal. "Old news".
If you get an Abortion and are a mormon, you get excommunicated (virtually all the time)...that isn't a threat, it's factual reality. Abortion isn't tolerated in the mormon church (only exceptions are rape, incest and when the life of the mother is threatened). And regarding abortion, he did exactly what he was supposed to do, and that applies to the spouse as well. IF you'd of said that he threatened excommunication for some other reason, then you'd have a scandal. But the mormon church excommunicating someone that gets an abortion isn't a scandal at all...it's as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

As for Bain...it is what is it. He's a capitalist. He makes money. I don't recal "capitalism" being a scandal. On the company your talking about, was it going to BK with or without Bain? Anyway, he wasn't in the welfare business...Sure, it's not soft hearted, and cozy...but it is what it is.

I thought you were talking about something else! Something that wasn't common knowledge...Like sexual harrasement...or an affair or that Bain capital funding terrorists or something like that.
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Abortion isn't tolerated in the mormon church (only exceptions are rape and incest).

Why?
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As I said, there's no point arguing with a brainwashed person. So, by all means, go vote for him. 12.4% of Republicans can't all be wrong.
I never get tired of watching this scene play out with you. Once again oldfart has figuratively lopped off all of your limbs but you still think you’re the winner. LMAO.

Maybe you should change your sig line to “The Black Knight always triumphs!”
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If you get an Abortion and are a mormon, you get excommunicated (virtually all the time)...that isn't a threat, it's factual reality. Abortion isn't tolerated in...
If you get an Abortion and are a mormon, you get excommunicated (virtually all the time)...that isn't a threat, it's factual reality. Abortion isn't tolerated in the mormon church (only exceptions are rape, incest and when the life of the mother is threatened). And regarding abortion, he did exactly what he was supposed to do, and that applies to the spouse as well. IF you'd of said that he threatened excommunication for some other reason, then you'd have a scandal. But the mormon church excommunicating someone that gets an abortion isn't a scandal at all...it's as predictable as the sun rising in the east.

As for Bain...it is what is it. He's a capitalist. He makes money. I don't recal "capitalism" being a scandal. On the company your talking about, was it going to BK with or without Bain? Anyway, he wasn't in the welfare business...Sure, it's not soft hearted, and cozy...but it is what it is.

I thought you were talking about something else! Something that wasn't common knowledge...Like sexual harrasement...or an affair or that Bain capital funding terrorists or something like that.
As I said, "See, no scandal here." Never mind the facts. And if it's common practice for the Mormon church to excommunicate a person who gets an abortion, don't be surprised if his Mormon background doesn't become a bigger issue than it already is. Excomminication isn't just a minor thing - it's an expression that the church is revoking a persons salvation, it is proclaiming that they're condemned to Hell. I guess I missed the passage where Jesus called abortion the unpardonable sin. You remember Jesus, right? He was the guy who came before Joseph Smith. I never really had anything against Mormons before, but the more I learn about them the less respect I have for them. I imagine that'll be repeated a few million times in the next few months.

And I guess "capitalism" covers a money-grab in which Bain makes 10 million dollars, leaves all the workers without jobs and leaves the American taxpayers to pay 44 million in underfunded pensions....like I said, no scandal here. And there will be dozens more just like it. 10 months of daily scandals from Bain and Romney personally. All I can say is, if these guys are the best ones the Republican party can put on the ticket, they don't just deserve to lose the election, they deserve to see their party splinter. And that's probably going to happen before it's all over.
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As I said, there's no point arguing with a brainwashed person. So, by all means, go vote for him. 12.4% of Republicans can't all be wrong.
This is classic coming from the webs biggest loon.
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In South Carolina in November he was at 8% on January 4 RP was at 9% now Jan 11-12 he's at 20% The 1%ers fear Ron...
In South Carolina in November he was at 8%
on January 4 RP was at 9%
now Jan 11-12 he's at 20%

The 1%ers fear Ron Paul, not me

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2012/primary/rep/sc/
Real Clear Politics averages all nonpartisan, credible polls and has Ron Paul at 12.4% among Republicans nationally, in fourth place behind Romney, Gingrich and Santorum. If I remember right, that's about how he did the last time he ran, too. He always pulls his 10 to 15 percent who are going to douse themselves in gasoline and set themselves on fire if he doesn't win.
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CR250Rider wrote:
In South Carolina in November he was at 8% on January 4 RP was at 9% now Jan 11-12 he's at 20% The 1%ers fear Ron...
In South Carolina in November he was at 8%
on January 4 RP was at 9%
now Jan 11-12 he's at 20%

The 1%ers fear Ron Paul, not me

http://americanresearchgroup.com/pres2012/primary/rep/sc/
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Real Clear Politics averages all nonpartisan, credible polls and has Ron Paul at 12.4% among Republicans nationally, in fourth place behind Romney, Gingrich and Santorum. If...
Real Clear Politics averages all nonpartisan, credible polls and has Ron Paul at 12.4% among Republicans nationally, in fourth place behind Romney, Gingrich and Santorum. If I remember right, that's about how he did the last time he ran, too. He always pulls his 10 to 15 percent who are going to douse themselves in gasoline and set themselves on fire if he doesn't win.
Not exactly.
Real Clear Politics does use only credible polling, but does also insert politically biased polling, but does label them as being an "R" or "D" based poll, like PPP (Public Policy Polling) which is a liberal biased polling group.

Rasmussen leans right, but is never labeled as such

Always found that interesting

Nonetheless, RCP is a conservative site, so you can't claim liberal bias and as for RP "gaining traction," he's only gone from 8's Nationally to mid-12's

[url]http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/republican_pr…]
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Abortion isn't tolerated in the mormon church (only exceptions are rape and incest).

Why?
Because in those instances the mother didn't-of her own free will-choose to have sex.
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Data collected from Real Clear Politics demonstrates Paul’s steady rise in the polls from 2009 through 2011. By December 2011 there is a steep increase in support for Paul, likely as Iowa caucus pollsshowed him coming in first. Although Paul was a few percentage points shy of winning the Iowa caucus on Jan 2, Americans have begun to view Paul as an electable candidate.

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Abortion isn't tolerated in the mormon church (only exceptions are rape and incest).

Why?
Titan1 wrote:
Because in those instances the mother didn't-of her own free will-choose to have sex.
But if the rational that abortion is murder, well, murder is murder, isn't it?

If the woman can't choose to have an abortion, why is it any different when the sperm donor is different or unknown?

Seems hypocritical
You're sanctioning one as "murder" but another of the same procedure isn't?

It's murder or it isn't murder, isn't it?
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You think Obama is being cock blocked.......even If RP was elected... he would never get other politicians to pass anything
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Ron Paul believes that the ninth and tenth amendments to the U.S. Constitution do not grant the federal government any authority to legalize or ban abortion. Instead, it is up to the individual states to prohibit abortion.

Ron Paul has delivered more than 4,000 babies. He believes that human life starts at conception, and that casual elimination of the unborn leads to a careless attitude towards all life.

Recalling his personal observation of a late-term abortion performed by one of his instructors during his medical residency, Ron Paul stated, “It was pretty dramatic for me to see a two-and-a-half-pound baby taken out crying and breathing and put in a bucket.”
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You think Obama is being cock blocked.......even If RP was elected... he would never get other politicians to pass anything
This right here nails it on the head.

How the fuck do you think RP is going to make all that radical change happen?
The president is basically a figurehead, without the approval of the Congress nothing is going to happen.
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flarider wrote:
Abortion isn't tolerated in the mormon church (only exceptions are rape and incest).

Why?
Titan1 wrote:
Because in those instances the mother didn't-of her own free will-choose to have sex.
flarider wrote:
But if the rational that abortion is murder, well, murder is murder, isn't it? If the woman can't choose to have an abortion, why is it...
But if the rational that abortion is murder, well, murder is murder, isn't it?

If the woman can't choose to have an abortion, why is it any different when the sperm donor is different or unknown?

Seems hypocritical
You're sanctioning one as "murder" but another of the same procedure isn't?

It's murder or it isn't murder, isn't it?
It's not a clean cut and dry situation...Here is the churches stance on abortion:


The Lord commanded, “Thou shalt not … kill, nor do anything like unto it” (D&C 59:6). The Church opposes elective abortion for personal or social convenience. Members must not submit to, perform, arrange for, pay for, consent to, or encourage an abortion. The only possible exceptions are when:
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Pregnancy resulted from forcible rape or incest.

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A competent physician determines that the life or health of the mother is in serious jeopardy.

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A competent physician determines that the fetus has severe defects that will not allow the baby to survive beyond birth.


Even these exceptions do not justify abortion automatically. Abortion is very serious and should be considered only after the persons responsible have consulted with their bishops and received divine confirmation through prayer.

A person may repent and be forgiven for the sin of abortion.

One can also be forgiven for the sin of murder.

There are certain circumstances where the taking of another life is justified (self defence, or in the defence of another, military service or police work, and for abortion those three exceptions listed above). It is what it is..


See more here: http://mormon.org/faq/church-position-on-abortion/
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If ron paul gets elected it will fly in the face of the DC establishment, and 100% because the people want him there (not because he had the most money, or because he had the support the DC establishment)...and as a result, he'll get stuff accomplished because he'll have the support of the people...congress will either get in line with the will of the people, or else they'll get fired at the next election.

I'd love to see Ron Paul in the White house because it would absolutely infuriate Congress! IT would be awesome!
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WhKnuckle wrote:
As I said, there's no point arguing with a brainwashed person. So, by all means, go vote for him. 12.4% of Republicans can't all be wrong.
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I never get tired of watching this scene play out with you. Once again oldfart has figuratively lopped off all of your limbs but you still...
I never get tired of watching this scene play out with you. Once again oldfart has figuratively lopped off all of your limbs but you still think you’re the winner. LMAO.

Maybe you should change your sig line to “The Black Knight always triumphs!”
LOL...Very true.

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