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bichwolf
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Edited Date/Time 11/19/2022 8:15am
Sitting in a 1850's historic home in a small rural railroad and mill town. My first booking. My kids use it all the time, everywhere they travel.
I may have gotten lucky, but this place and the entire procedure has been fantastic so far.
I have the traveling jones....
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MudPup545
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8/19/2022 7:23am
I’ve only used them twice but, each experience was flawless.
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8/19/2022 9:46am
My family has used airBnB and VRBO many times without any major problems. Usually its flawless.

I think they are great options for people that want to travel and not stay in a hotel.
Jeremy A.K.
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8/19/2022 9:53am
Wife and I used one a few years back when she talked me into going to Toronto for a few days. There was no surprises and everything went smooth
TXDirt
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8/19/2022 11:30am
I prefer VRBO. Better selection of places I would consider staying at. If I were staying in more downtown areas I’d use AirBnB more..

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8/19/2022 5:57pm
A lot of places on VRBO aren’t actually “by owner,” but listed by a property management company that was hired by the owner. I use VRBO to find where I want to stay and then book directly with the property management company. This eliminates the VRBO fee(listed as a “service fee”) and saves you hundreds of dollars on your trip. Example below:



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jeffro503
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8/19/2022 6:19pm
There is no effing way , on God's green earth I would ever pay that much! God , that is ridiculous.
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Titan1
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8/19/2022 8:59pm
I’ve used Airbnb lots of times. I’ve always enjoyed it.

I’ve found that because of cleaning and administration fees, it’s usually only cheaper if staying multiple nights….for one night stays I’ll just get a hotel…but for two-three night+ stays, I’ll grab and Airbnb…
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bichwolf
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8/20/2022 11:09am
Titan1 wrote:
I’ve used Airbnb lots of times. I’ve always enjoyed it. I’ve found that because of cleaning and administration fees, it’s usually only cheaper if staying multiple...
I’ve used Airbnb lots of times. I’ve always enjoyed it.

I’ve found that because of cleaning and administration fees, it’s usually only cheaper if staying multiple nights….for one night stays I’ll just get a hotel…but for two-three night+ stays, I’ll grab and Airbnb…
So I extended our stay 1 night, and was charged excessive fees it seems. Clumsy at best as I contacted the home owner who I think wanted us to just be charged another nights rent plus tax.
LoudLove
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8/20/2022 11:23am
SEE ARE125 wrote:
A lot of places on VRBO aren’t actually “by owner,” but listed by a property management company that was hired by the owner. I use VRBO...
A lot of places on VRBO aren’t actually “by owner,” but listed by a property management company that was hired by the owner. I use VRBO to find where I want to stay and then book directly with the property management company. This eliminates the VRBO fee(listed as a “service fee”) and saves you hundreds of dollars on your trip. Example below:



VRBO service fees are usually around 5%, and $645 is closer to 9% based on your invoice. Are there missing line-items?

Also, your can negotiate the fee for larger rentals. I’ve had the service fee calculations applied only to the rental charges. Not a huge savings, but enough to cover a night’s worth of bushwackers!
Stumps
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8/20/2022 1:40pm
We own a converted church as an Airbnb that my wife manages/cleans - because it’s her business/passion, the level of cleanliness and attention to detail is so much higher than that of a standard a hotel room, even as far as making a loaf of sourdough bread and leaving a bottle of wine as part of her welcome for every guest - we don’t charge a cleaning fee, but I do agree that the Airbnb booking fee is far too excessive.
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8/20/2022 1:45pm
SEE ARE125 wrote:
A lot of places on VRBO aren’t actually “by owner,” but listed by a property management company that was hired by the owner. I use VRBO...
A lot of places on VRBO aren’t actually “by owner,” but listed by a property management company that was hired by the owner. I use VRBO to find where I want to stay and then book directly with the property management company. This eliminates the VRBO fee(listed as a “service fee”) and saves you hundreds of dollars on your trip. Example below:



LoudLove wrote:
VRBO service fees are usually around 5%, and $645 is closer to 9% based on your invoice. Are there missing line-items? Also, your can negotiate the...
VRBO service fees are usually around 5%, and $645 is closer to 9% based on your invoice. Are there missing line-items?

Also, your can negotiate the fee for larger rentals. I’ve had the service fee calculations applied only to the rental charges. Not a huge savings, but enough to cover a night’s worth of bushwackers!
Not that I know of. I wasn’t actually booking that trip, I just went to VRBO and found a random rental to show the VRBO service fee and took a screenshot. Best I can tell, the service fee pays for 24/7 customer support via VRBO. Hardly worth the price tag, IMO. That $645 fee does seem high and the trips I usually book the service fee is like $250-$350.
9/23/2022 9:34pm Edited Date/Time 12/8/2022 10:15pm

I remembered coming across this thread, and wanted to share what we have been working on. We sold our condo and then had to roll that money into another property within 45 days or face steep taxes. So we bought this house that's about 90 years old and are close to being ready to list it on Airbnb. My mother-in-law and wife have done most of the work, I have mostly been on baby duty. But it's going to look so nice when it's done. We have bought a lot of older furniture to fit the same era. I can't wait to get this thing totally furnished and listed. The previous owners got rid of a lot of the things that we really liked about older houses. So we've spent a lot of time trying to bring it back to its old glory. It's in a pretty popular tourist town, and it's right by a college. So we basically hope it can atleast pay for itself












And we just had to add a brick wall.

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jeffro503
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9/23/2022 10:53pm
Vanilla.......with me being into remodeling for over 30 years , I really dig the looks of some of the stuff you got going on there. Classy with the wood and brick!
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9/24/2022 5:57am Edited Date/Time 9/24/2022 5:58am
jeffro503 wrote:
Vanilla.......with me being into remodeling for over 30 years , I really dig the looks of some of the stuff you got going on there. Classy...
Vanilla.......with me being into remodeling for over 30 years , I really dig the looks of some of the stuff you got going on there. Classy with the wood and brick!
Thanks. It has been my wife all along coming up with the design ideas. She always talks about how she should have been an interior decorator. We really wanted the brick wall because we would see it in a lot of the older houses that we looked at, but this one didn't have any brick. I just wish it didn't have vinyl siding. That's my only hang up, because that would be really expensive to redo.

We had biblical rain a few days before this house was listed, so that really worked in our favor because the crawl space flooded and I think that scared some potential buyers away.
philG
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9/24/2022 6:15am
Here in the UK, places that people want to go to cos they are 'quaint' are now ghost towns and villages in the winter, as people buy them for holiday lets , as a business, which drives locals out of the property market, and thus businesses that cant survive on just seasonal trade any more because half the people are gone

Lots of local councils trying to ban out of area purchases for properties that wont be lived in full time, and double property taxes.

And of course in big cities, the same is happening, so the housing crisis worsens.


We have 3 cottages in the centre of our village that have been bought for this, they were always long term rented by a local owner, with elderly residents, for as long as i can remember, but they have now been 'Insta readied' and seem to bring nothing but grief to the area, with parking and noise.

The prices are going nuts, because privately run hotels are getting overrun with illegals being payed for by the Govt , instead of being sent back when they land.



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Zycki11
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9/24/2022 7:58am
jeffro503 wrote:
Vanilla.......with me being into remodeling for over 30 years , I really dig the looks of some of the stuff you got going on there. Classy...
Vanilla.......with me being into remodeling for over 30 years , I really dig the looks of some of the stuff you got going on there. Classy with the wood and brick!
Thanks. It has been my wife all along coming up with the design ideas. She always talks about how she should have been an interior decorator...
Thanks. It has been my wife all along coming up with the design ideas. She always talks about how she should have been an interior decorator. We really wanted the brick wall because we would see it in a lot of the older houses that we looked at, but this one didn't have any brick. I just wish it didn't have vinyl siding. That's my only hang up, because that would be really expensive to redo.

We had biblical rain a few days before this house was listed, so that really worked in our favor because the crawl space flooded and I think that scared some potential buyers away.
I’d like to pick your brain on rental properties, taxes, etc. I no am learning about the tac incentives and infinite loop
9/24/2022 7:12pm
jeffro503 wrote:
Vanilla.......with me being into remodeling for over 30 years , I really dig the looks of some of the stuff you got going on there. Classy...
Vanilla.......with me being into remodeling for over 30 years , I really dig the looks of some of the stuff you got going on there. Classy with the wood and brick!
Thanks. It has been my wife all along coming up with the design ideas. She always talks about how she should have been an interior decorator...
Thanks. It has been my wife all along coming up with the design ideas. She always talks about how she should have been an interior decorator. We really wanted the brick wall because we would see it in a lot of the older houses that we looked at, but this one didn't have any brick. I just wish it didn't have vinyl siding. That's my only hang up, because that would be really expensive to redo.

We had biblical rain a few days before this house was listed, so that really worked in our favor because the crawl space flooded and I think that scared some potential buyers away.
Zycki11 wrote:
I’d like to pick your brain on rental properties, taxes, etc. I no am learning about the tac incentives and infinite loop
Sure, ask away. We have had long term renters before this, and we just did a brief stint with Airbnb before, but it has been atleast 10 years.
11/2/2022 3:24pm
We are live.
https://abnb.me/hmmgXr2mlub

We have our first guests this weekend. We busted ass for a couple months, spent a whole lot of money. And we are getting a lot of bookings. December will pay for the house payment and then some. My wife did all the design work. She always says it is her true calling.
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SEEMEFIRST
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11/3/2022 5:55am
We are live. https://abnb.me/hmmgXr2mlub We have our first guests this weekend. We busted ass for a couple months, spent a whole lot of money. And we...
We are live.
https://abnb.me/hmmgXr2mlub

We have our first guests this weekend. We busted ass for a couple months, spent a whole lot of money. And we are getting a lot of bookings. December will pay for the house payment and then some. My wife did all the design work. She always says it is her true calling.
Looks beautiful.
Sounds like a bargain at $160.00.
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AZ35
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Fantasy
11/4/2022 9:42pm
Great job! Looks incredible, and the listing is perfect.

As a many time Airbnb and VRBO customer, reviews are everything.

I am sure you already know this- but just make sure and extra pamper your new guests and make sure they are happy and will give a 5 star review. Once you build a solid rating that place will stay booked all the time.

Congrats on making it happen!
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11/19/2022 8:15am
AZ35 wrote:
Great job! Looks incredible, and the listing is perfect. As a many time Airbnb and VRBO customer, reviews are everything. I am sure you already know...
Great job! Looks incredible, and the listing is perfect.

As a many time Airbnb and VRBO customer, reviews are everything.

I am sure you already know this- but just make sure and extra pamper your new guests and make sure they are happy and will give a 5 star review. Once you build a solid rating that place will stay booked all the time.

Congrats on making it happen!
Thanks, we had our first guests last weekend and the only issue they had was that one of the showers wouldn't give them hot water, but we fixed it. We let them know they were are very first guests and they were totally cool and still gave us five stars. We're booked every weekend in December! The real jackpot is those four and five-day stays. It seems like most are two days.


A friend of mine from work has been doing the same thing and she has had some issues, she has had people smoking pot in her house, she even ended up with a hole in the wall on the last one. I think her issue is that she lets people stay for just one night. If it's for at least two then I think you might get a more respectful crowd.
12/8/2022 11:04pm Edited Date/Time 12/8/2022 11:11pm

Well, apparently some of our neighbors aren't too happy about what we are doing. Prior to us taking any reservations we went around our whole street and knocked on every door and the two immediate neighbors were the only ones that answered and they had no problem with what we are doing. Another one had waved at me, went inside and then ignored us when we came to her door to talk 15 minutes later.

 

We just received a typed letter with no return address, and no names on it. It had three different streets listed, so we are assuming there are three different people that aren't happy about what we are doing. They listed three complaints. They said we are renting before our permit was approved, but the office told us to "do what we gotta do" when we asked them about renting before the permit is approved.  The two other  complaints come from when we either used the house ourselves or had a friend just borrow it as a favor because they helped us with the project. 

 

One of the big things that they are getting on people about is parking, so we aren't permitted to have any on street parking, and when our friends borrowed the house for a party apparently they parked in the street. I'm not sure they have any ground to even complain because we weren't getting paid to rent it to anybody. Their other complaint stems from when my wife had friends over for a bachelorette party. They complained about the bus, and said that because the bus took up the driveway that more people had to park in the street, but again, these were not paying customers, they were our own personal guests.  They reported it to the city so I'm guessing we will get a nice letter or phone call about it. Can't wait to argue with the city about it. 

 

Fun stuff. 

2/3/2023 3:37am

We ended up switching over to a long term lease, and have a family moving in next week. It just got to be too much work, we would have to spend 2-3 hours cleaning the place when we turned it over for new renters, and we wouldn't really cover the mortgage unless we rented it out at least 12 nights per month because we weren't able to charge as much as we hoped. It was fun, but we sort of realized that it might be a better plan if your property is already paid off and you don't have to make that big payment each month. 

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NorCal1975
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7/27/2024 8:49pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2024 11:12am
We ended up switching over to a long term lease, and have a family moving in next week. It just got to be too much work...

We ended up switching over to a long term lease, and have a family moving in next week. It just got to be too much work, we would have to spend 2-3 hours cleaning the place when we turned it over for new renters, and we wouldn't really cover the mortgage unless we rented it out at least 12 nights per month because we weren't able to charge as much as we hoped. It was fun, but we sort of realized that it might be a better plan if your property is already paid off and you don't have to make that big payment each month. 

I totally get where your coming from.  We had a house on Airbnb and VRBO for 3 years.  It is a large place, 4100 square feet on 3 acres.  It worked out fine money wise, but WAY too much work and stress.  We don't have any neighbors to complain, but the stress of getting bookings, the stress of the review process, someone texting you at 11pm because of some little problem most normal people who not worry about, just not worth it. If you are retired and like to do the clean up, all the attention to detail, etc. it might be ok at best, but it would still be stressful I would think.  Plus my job required 15-20 cross country trips each year, so my schedule was just another impediment.  We turned the house into linemen student housing, which still lets me get above market rental rates with guests/tenants for 17 weeks at a time, and no reviews!   

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