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whats the best and cheapest training program out there?
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WhKnuckle 6/21/2008 5:22pm
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Running shoes, a pair of 30# dumbells, and an alarm clock...

Like Hannah said, "It's not that complicated, is it?"
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Try Chris Carmichaels on line programs. Just Google his name. I don't know the costs though.
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First of all putting the "BEST" and the "CHEAPEST" in the same sentence might be an issue.

If you are not riding your MX bike at least 4 days a week completing a minimum of 2 X 15 to 20 minute motos plus practice and technique training you should evaluate your program.

On conditioning: running for 20 to 30 minutes or cycling for 60 to 90 minutes will help with cardio. Squats (without weights), sit ups and push ups will help with muscle endurance and you do not need a gym.
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That's the part I was talking about. Run 3 to 5 miles, moderate pace, then circuit train with 5 or 6 stations, 3 circuits, no rest between stations and a couple of minutes between circuits - do that for 3 or 4 weeks and you should physically be good for anything short of the Nationals. With pre-workout stretching it takes about 1 1/2 hours and there's not much to go wrong.

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There is a article on racerxvt about jump roping. That mixed with crunches, squats, and push ups and you should be good to go.
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i have a pretty decent circuit/weight setup i got off of racerxvt and combined it with agility training and some plyometric training too.
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MXTRAINER1 wrote:
First of all putting the "BEST" and the "CHEAPEST" in the same sentence might be an issue. If you are not riding your MX bike at...
First of all putting the "BEST" and the "CHEAPEST" in the same sentence might be an issue.

If you are not riding your MX bike at least 4 days a week completing a minimum of 2 X 15 to 20 minute motos plus practice and technique training you should evaluate your program.

On conditioning: running for 20 to 30 minutes or cycling for 60 to 90 minutes will help with cardio. Squats (without weights), sit ups and push ups will help with muscle endurance and you do not need a gym.
Alan
Are you familiar with Pilates? I am rehabing a hip and will be doing that when I am done with my PT. It is surprisinly good for the core and flexibility.
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WhKnuckle wrote:
Running shoes, a pair of 30# dumbells, and an alarm clock...

Like Hannah said, "It's not that complicated, is it?"
I read an old Hannah interview where he said, "if you cant run 10 miles in one hour flat,, you'll never keep up with me at a National."
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actually the greek olympiads used to train naked.....which is the root of the greek word gymnasium (train naked)

so i would say if you want to be in olympic type shape for the cheapest and have the chics worship you as a greek god....train naked!
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haha
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mxer930 wrote:
haha
hey you wanted suggestions! Smile
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haha true now im gonna go train naked Whistling
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Woohoo
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Pilates and Yoga are excellent forms of conditioning and will surprise a lot of "tough guys" on how difficult it can be.
Learn your body and what it is telling you.
Champions in Motocross have come from many different training programs. Training is not magic but finding out what areas need to be addressed can be. Find out what is holding you back then work on that area and if you need help, find the appropriate assistance for your issue.
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txmxer 6/22/2008 11:45am
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don't forget lots of sleep. If you want to train rigorously, you gotta recover and sleep is when that happens. A lot of top pro athletes actually sleep more than 8 hrs a night to recover. For the average person, they get 6 to 7...if you are going to up your intensity, add an hour to your normal sleep, your body will thank you and pay you back.
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MXTRAINER1 wrote:
Pilates and Yoga are excellent forms of conditioning and will surprise a lot of "tough guys" on how difficult it can be. Learn your body and...
Pilates and Yoga are excellent forms of conditioning and will surprise a lot of "tough guys" on how difficult it can be.
Learn your body and what it is telling you.
Champions in Motocross have come from many different training programs. Training is not magic but finding out what areas need to be addressed can be. Find out what is holding you back then work on that area and if you need help, find the appropriate assistance for your issue.
Alan
I've been doing them for 18 months now...excellent way to recover on an "off" day if you do the easy stuff. They can be as hard as any strength workout though...do the advanced stuff when you have a day to recover.
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MXTRAINER1 wrote:
Pilates and Yoga are excellent forms of conditioning and will surprise a lot of "tough guys" on how difficult it can be. Learn your body and...
Pilates and Yoga are excellent forms of conditioning and will surprise a lot of "tough guys" on how difficult it can be.
Learn your body and what it is telling you.
Champions in Motocross have come from many different training programs. Training is not magic but finding out what areas need to be addressed can be. Find out what is holding you back then work on that area and if you need help, find the appropriate assistance for your issue.
Alan
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I've been doing them for 18 months now...excellent way to recover on an "off" day if you do the easy stuff. They can be as hard...
I've been doing them for 18 months now...excellent way to recover on an "off" day if you do the easy stuff. They can be as hard as any strength workout though...do the advanced stuff when you have a day to recover.
Just doing stuff on the ball is amazing. I started doing it about four years ago and it was one of the best workouts I have done. Kinda of topic here but it relates. Mick Fanning is on one of Fuel TVs programs and he stands on one of the large workout balls and does squats. That takes some core.
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KTM boy 137 6/23/2008 6:43am
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Also, a note about running...

Do not run until you 'can't run anymore'. You should run within reason, and then walk a little, then run again.

Give yourself incentive. Say "i'll run 1 mile, and walk for 30 seconds (or 45 sec. or some other 'pretty short' amount)", then pick up the pace again for another mile, then another little break.

If you're not used to running long distances at a decent pace, this method will help you out in order to build up that tolerance much faster than just running until your out of steam. It's easier on the body too - and (in some cases) you'll put in better times using the run/walk combo, than you did if you ran the whole thing.

And pilates/yoga is a crazy workout! pilates is great for core (which is important more than just in moto!) There's a guy in the office here who is HUGE (he used to hit the gym ALL the time). He said he was amazed at how tough it was. He said it was actually hard for him, and that's why he's going so much now to pilates. Another challenge for him.

Running/core strenght/ and getting your strength to weight ratio to be the best it can be - and you'll be fine.
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MXTRAINER1 wrote:
Pilates and Yoga are excellent forms of conditioning and will surprise a lot of "tough guys" on how difficult it can be. Learn your body and...
Pilates and Yoga are excellent forms of conditioning and will surprise a lot of "tough guys" on how difficult it can be.
Learn your body and what it is telling you.
Champions in Motocross have come from many different training programs. Training is not magic but finding out what areas need to be addressed can be. Find out what is holding you back then work on that area and if you need help, find the appropriate assistance for your issue.
Alan
There is so much truth to this reply. Pilates and Yoga both are hard workouts. I would bet that your average meat head gym rat wouldnt last 10 minutes in a womens Yoga class.

On your topic of different workout, Bailey and O'Mara had their bodys tested for weekness. They trained together but when they were at the gym they did completely different deals. O'Mara was against using lots of weight while Bailey would move stacks.
Both were in crazy shape.

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