one moto format 2009

The FIM and Youthstream run two motos in the GP's and have a great TV package in Europe, as well as internet coverage. Amazing.

it should be a 50 minute moto then!

That was rumored a while back and RacerX or someone said that it was false...

But like I said that was a while ago. It would sure suck though.

Wish this board has a search feature.
This topic was my first post on here after dmxs one night.
This one should be good for a few pages.

Was tried in Europe and failed miserably
Was done by DORNA, not Youthstream, in an effort to make a more "TV Friendly" package.
It failed across the board
It will not happen again

Here we go again.


It was tried by Roger DeCoster at Glen Helen several years ago. You are from the area, don't you remember?

I would guess if it worked, they would have continued. Only happened once!


Jimi J

this is MOTOCROSS save that one moto main BS for SX!

god I hope not, that would seal the deal for the death of the nationals. Who is going to spend all day on a hillside to watch 1 moto a class...

American outdoor MX is dieing they have to try something to save it.

more money and less show...that ain't the answer...

the problem is the people who want to save it, the hard core fans, don't have the money/control to save it, the people with the power could care less about the nationals. This move will not save the nationals, in fact it will kill it

How about three classes, 125, 250 and open, one moto each, and riders ride a 250 in one moto and an open bike in the other, and the 250 and open class moto finishes are combined for an overall winner? I guess that kind of defeats the purpose of one moto for TV though...

When Dorna did that in Europe it was an abject failure. The riders hated it and the spectators hated it.

BTW, does anyone remember the old format of THREE 30 minute motos?

IRONMAN class?

I think 2 moto format smooths out the bad start/bike problem/occasional crash issues that arise over the course of the season. Thus 1 bad moto doesn't sink title aspirations - like having a bad main in supercross will.

Trust me, it's something you don't have to worry about

Aaaaa....there are people with a little money that love hardcore mx.


get a clue...and mx nats will not ever go away.

Not this shit again!

They could fit more commercials in if they go to one moto.

Bobby sez "get a clue...and mx nats will not ever go away."

Unless they go to a one-moto format!

Jimi J

It won't happen
There's things in the works that will prove it will NEVER happen
Give up thinking about it
It won't happen

As much as the Osama-One Moto format is disgusting to many of us, it is not because it hasn't been done properly before that it would kill the growth, development of the AMA Outdoor Nationals. I know and believe that us hardcore fans are repulsed by the idea but we need to understand what OEM need:

Better TV, more TV, simple to understand racing made for TV
New fans, not old or hardcore (those mostly stay around the sport),
new bike owners,
new fresh stream of fans to the sport, at races and on TV.
The actual TV format with 2 moto doesn't sell to non-hardcore fans.
TV ratings are bad.
TV ratings for MXGP in Europe are bad too. No one watches those except the hardcore fans, like us. Youthstream pays for it so it's there. MX in Europe isn't honky-dory neither. Crowds at tracks are a small as they are in the US.

If a one-moto format, for AMA Outdoor National, with heats and qualifying and a long main, is introduced, and if this brings news people to the sport because they can easily understand and see the winner of the day (instead of going through points system, with a guy taking victory without winning a moto), if this increases TV rating and sells more bikes for the OEM and make the AMA Outdoor National financially healthy, I am not against.

Amateur MX, regional MX, can stay the same, it's the MX we love riding.

Me ? I like to race just one moto, though I'm old and lazy.

As far as the pro's, I guess I'm all for the one moto format, too.

As long as it' s followed by a second forty five minute moto shortly

thereafter.


There's a valid reason that people are raising this one moto question though -

but don't worry, we're sticking with two.

It's the silly timed-qualifying I'm dead against. I want racin', not stop-watches.
Dammit.

The NPG cannot afford live broadcasts and really who cares?
If waiting one day allowed them to provide better coverage I'm all for it. It costs 3 to 5 times as much to produce a live broadcast vs a delayed broadcast and the coverage because of their small budget isn't nearly as good.