looking for Rider interest in having open practice before the Indiana national.

Bluelion
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Edited Date/Time 11/19/2013 9:13am
Since the Motocross schedule has been announced. And it is confirmed that there will be a round in Crawfordsville Indiana. We are looking for interest in having open practice during the week before the national at our motocross facility WildcatcreekMX...We always race prep the track for every practice.. Our track is located 30 minutes from Crawfordsville,15 min from Lafayette Indiana and Interstate 65. Lafayette is a town of about 100,00 people and has all the hotel and restaurant accommodations that anyone would need. We also offer camping at the track. As of now we are looking for interest in doing this? If we think there is enough interest in making this a viable thing to try...?











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bradnelson
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11/13/2013 4:03am
Yes, if its Vet D only. Cool
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11/13/2013 4:06am
Seriously, are you talking a prep practice just for the pros ? Or open practice for everyone ? Do you know Crawfordsville's schedule ? For example, Red Bud opens Wednesday evening before the national.
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11/13/2013 5:50am Edited Date/Time 11/13/2013 6:36am
bradnelson wrote:
Seriously, are you talking a prep practice just for the pros ? Or open practice for everyone ? Do you know Crawfordsville's schedule ? For example...
Seriously, are you talking a prep practice just for the pros ? Or open practice for everyone ? Do you know Crawfordsville's schedule ? For example, Red Bud opens Wednesday evening before the national.
Along his thought, both Millville and Redbud offer Thursday amateur practice, Friday amateur racing.
How do we know C-ville won't, also?
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11/13/2013 6:24am Edited Date/Time 11/13/2013 6:35am
bradnelson wrote:
Seriously, are you talking a prep practice just for the pros ? Or open practice for everyone ? Do you know Crawfordsville's schedule ? For example...
Seriously, are you talking a prep practice just for the pros ? Or open practice for everyone ? Do you know Crawfordsville's schedule ? For example, Red Bud opens Wednesday evening before the national.
Highsider wrote:
Along his thought, both Millville and Redbud offer Thursday amateur practice, Friday amateur racing.
How do we know C-ville won't, also?
Not for the pros. Cant be on the track 7 days prior to a National. I Think its a great idea for the many privateers that travel between races. You can try a Pro practice only day on Thursday, but I would open it to all as many would just come to see the pros ride. IMHO.
I know the importance to privateers to find tracks in between Nationals. Its always a scramble to find a good one ;-)
Pros do not get to enter the track until Friday unless its for press day.

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11/13/2013 6:40am
bradnelson wrote:
Seriously, are you talking a prep practice just for the pros ? Or open practice for everyone ? Do you know Crawfordsville's schedule ? For example...
Seriously, are you talking a prep practice just for the pros ? Or open practice for everyone ? Do you know Crawfordsville's schedule ? For example, Red Bud opens Wednesday evening before the national.
Highsider wrote:
Along his thought, both Millville and Redbud offer Thursday amateur practice, Friday amateur racing.
How do we know C-ville won't, also?
35smom wrote:
Not for the pros. Cant be on the track 7 days prior to a National. I Think its a great idea for the many privateers that...
Not for the pros. Cant be on the track 7 days prior to a National. I Think its a great idea for the many privateers that travel between races. You can try a Pro practice only day on Thursday, but I would open it to all as many would just come to see the pros ride. IMHO.
I know the importance to privateers to find tracks in between Nationals. Its always a scramble to find a good one ;-)
Pros do not get to enter the track until Friday unless its for press day.
Now that is a good idea.

For bluelion, about one mile from Spring Creek is Meadow Valley, which is a very nice practice facility. During Pro week, they are very busy.
35smom reminds me of the times I was at Meadow Valley, prior to the National, when Ferry and others were putting down laps there.
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11/13/2013 8:15am
I liked Muddy Creek setup with am's practice Friday Pros Saturday. Then am's race sunday. Friday practice broke the track in for Sat races.
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11/13/2013 9:54am
Bluelion,
In my opinion you have the best track in Indiana. I just never understood why you only have a handful of practices a year. This year I only rode your track twice because of the bad weather on your practice dates. People in Indy desperately need a place to go every weekend. Highfly is closed, the badlands is a joke and Haspin is just a bunch of drunks. I have since moved back to GA but I truly enjoyed your track even though the high price to ride.
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11/13/2013 10:15am
^^ What he said. I live in Lafayette and it's super convenient to drive 20 minutes to the track. Would be super nice if you could keep the quads off the track through.
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11/13/2013 12:12pm
Track looks MINT
ehr400
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11/13/2013 1:11pm
I rode the track for the LL qualifier last year and really enjoyed it. I agree keep quads off during open bike days. It is a fun track that gets some nice deep ruts.
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11/13/2013 4:44pm
No interest in riding a track that is not the national track ON the week before the national at another track. Would like to practice Thursday, race Fri, watch pros Sat and then race Sun at the national track. This is how Red Bud and Millville do it and would really like to see it here also. Makes for a good camping trip and with this track being 3.5 hours away, we would most definitely go.
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11/14/2013 3:42am
Highsider wrote:
Along his thought, both Millville and Redbud offer Thursday amateur practice, Friday amateur racing.
How do we know C-ville won't, also?
35smom wrote:
Not for the pros. Cant be on the track 7 days prior to a National. I Think its a great idea for the many privateers that...
Not for the pros. Cant be on the track 7 days prior to a National. I Think its a great idea for the many privateers that travel between races. You can try a Pro practice only day on Thursday, but I would open it to all as many would just come to see the pros ride. IMHO.
I know the importance to privateers to find tracks in between Nationals. Its always a scramble to find a good one ;-)
Pros do not get to enter the track until Friday unless its for press day.
Highsider wrote:
Now that is a good idea. For bluelion, about one mile from Spring Creek is Meadow Valley, which is a very nice practice facility. During Pro...
Now that is a good idea.

For bluelion, about one mile from Spring Creek is Meadow Valley, which is a very nice practice facility. During Pro week, they are very busy.
35smom reminds me of the times I was at Meadow Valley, prior to the National, when Ferry and others were putting down laps there.
As of right now we are looking for pro interest in having a place to practice close to the facility that the national will be. Being able to practice and test bike setups in the same weather inviorment as the race would be. We are the closes track to the c-ville track. We are also open to all interest (pro and amateur) in have a place to practice during that time period. There is no set plans for anything yet? We will have to wait to see what the schedule is for the c-ville track. We are not sure if they will be having amateur racing there or not????
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11/14/2013 4:58am
Bluelion wrote:
As of right now we are looking for pro interest in having a place to practice close to the facility that the national will be. Being...
As of right now we are looking for pro interest in having a place to practice close to the facility that the national will be. Being able to practice and test bike setups in the same weather inviorment as the race would be. We are the closes track to the c-ville track. We are also open to all interest (pro and amateur) in have a place to practice during that time period. There is no set plans for anything yet? We will have to wait to see what the schedule is for the c-ville track. We are not sure if they will be having amateur racing there or not????
My suggestion would be to work with them as closely as possible and in the event they do not have amateur racing, you should become the amateur event. Way back when I raced, Southwick didn't allow minis (not sure if they changed that) and there was another sand track very close by who ran the mini level events in their place.

As for open practice, if you decide to hold it, I'd strongly suggest marketing it towards privateers and not charging them. I know you'd be eating the cost, but in the long run, that would be beneficial to your facility. That is unless someone wants to rent it out privately for their team. There may be other ways to generate some revenue to offset maintenance costs (like amateur practice on the same day at specific times) but keep the costs as low as possible for the pros you are trying to attract.

Your facility looks awesome. Makes me wish I was still racing. Good luck!
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11/14/2013 5:38am
Sounds like a great idea. My buddies and I go to Millville and do their practice on Thursday, hit another local track on Friday (who needs to race?), watch the pros Saturday, then Millville again Sunday.
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11/14/2013 6:46am
IMO its a great idea for the privateers that travel and hopefully we would be one of them there to get a little last minute seat time in before our first go at a national.
Bluelion
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11/14/2013 7:12am
This is great feedback..I love hearing all suggestions and types of interest in doing something here at our track in the days leading up to the national...We want to do something for the riders that are racing in this area that weekend...Pro and amateur....

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11/14/2013 10:20am
BLUELION,

I don't understand your drive to hopefully draw Pro riders for 1 day of practice when you are seeing here that the local guys are begging for more track time throughout the year. These local guys are the ones that will make you money and bring in all their buddies and grow your events (i'm assuming you aren't a private, non-profit track.) Instead, you are focusing on the "cool" factor of trying to draw a couple bigger name pro privateers.

It seems you are willing to bend over backwards and cater to these pro privateers for 1 day, of which you probably will lose money by the time you staff and prep the track vs. the amount of Pro practice entries you would recieve. Meanwhile your locals are wanting to come ride every weekend but you aren't extending the same welcome to them.

I also agree with GA_Pike, if you do this for the privateers, you need to let them ride for free or at a reduced rate. Nothing worse than having to run on a privateer budget then have to pay premium amateur track ride fees during the week.

Not trying to bash your cause, it WOULD be cool to have some pros for a 1 day event, but just remember to support the sport and listen to your local crowd.
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11/14/2013 4:26pm
^^^ what he said. 50 privateers at a pro national 1 time a year or 150 local riders looking for a place to go every weekend.
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11/14/2013 4:57pm Edited Date/Time 11/14/2013 4:58pm
Those are some quality ruts. I might have to try this place out sometime.
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11/15/2013 4:13am
mxtech1 wrote:
BLUELION, I don't understand your drive to hopefully draw Pro riders for 1 day of practice when you are seeing here that the local guys are...
BLUELION,

I don't understand your drive to hopefully draw Pro riders for 1 day of practice when you are seeing here that the local guys are begging for more track time throughout the year. These local guys are the ones that will make you money and bring in all their buddies and grow your events (i'm assuming you aren't a private, non-profit track.) Instead, you are focusing on the "cool" factor of trying to draw a couple bigger name pro privateers.

It seems you are willing to bend over backwards and cater to these pro privateers for 1 day, of which you probably will lose money by the time you staff and prep the track vs. the amount of Pro practice entries you would recieve. Meanwhile your locals are wanting to come ride every weekend but you aren't extending the same welcome to them.

I also agree with GA_Pike, if you do this for the privateers, you need to let them ride for free or at a reduced rate. Nothing worse than having to run on a privateer budget then have to pay premium amateur track ride fees during the week.

Not trying to bash your cause, it WOULD be cool to have some pros for a 1 day event, but just remember to support the sport and listen to your local crowd.
Ok, I need clarify some things here. If anyone knows on here how hard it is to own an operate a quality Motocross track. The insurance alone is ridiculous. That's one of the biggest hurdles to overcome in having to many open practices is insurance cost. Then throw in other operating cost it is like diesel fuel for the equipment. We used to have open practice every weekend and once during the week. We found that having practices to much developed poor rider turnout per practice and we were loosing allot of money trying to do this. You cant justify prepping the track and buying insurance paying a staff hiring a medical crew for just a small handful of riders to that might show up. Some of you out there assume that every time we open our gates we have 150 rides show up? The reality is, this dose not happen. We had more races in our schedule last season than we ever had before and we tried to sprinkle in as many practices as possible. The weather hit us hard on our practice dates last season so had to cancel a few. If you would have a look behind the scenes you will find that we are a privately owned largely non profit track. It is very difficult to turn a profit with a motocross track in todays economy. We are all racers and ex-racers that have day jobs. Seriously we do this for the sport of motocross. mxtech1, if you will review the thread I have made very clear that we are interested in doing something for the pro's and AMATEUR riders during that week. This is a thread to find interest in doing something that week only. This thread has no bearing on the schedule for the rest of the year. I hope this clearifies what we are trying to do here...
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