Vortex ECU

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So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell for 400 bucks, everyone keeps asking me what it will go on and I have no idea it's tuned for a 2016 kx450 but no idea if it will work on other makes if tunes for them any insight on this please and thank you!
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So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell...
So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell for 400 bucks, everyone keeps asking me what it will go on and I have no idea it's tuned for a 2016 kx450 but no idea if it will work on other makes if tunes for them any insight on this please and thank you!
Hmm you sure about that? Looks like you should have the 8G box which fits most current bikes. I just had an 8G originally tuned for a Ktm 450 updated with maps for my 2021 KX250. Who told you the ecu was wrong?
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So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell...
So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell for 400 bucks, everyone keeps asking me what it will go on and I have no idea it's tuned for a 2016 kx450 but no idea if it will work on other makes if tunes for them any insight on this please and thank you!
Contact vortex, good customer service.
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12/18/2020 8:43am Edited Date/Time 12/18/2020 8:45am
You can basically figure out on their site what the 8G ecu fits. I've used this page here https://www.vortexcdi.com/manufacturers.php

Basically any relatively new Suzuki, Kawi, 17+ Honda, 16+ KTM etc. maybe more but you'd have to check on your own. Really the best thing to do is to call Twisted Development and check with them before buying or selling...if you plan to purchase their maps. I can't imagine they would have any problem loading tunes for a 2019-2021 KX450 onto your ecu. Should be the exact same hardware. To be clear, I'm not suggesting to call Twisted to kick tires, only to see if they can update your current ecu for you.
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JohnMatrix wrote:
You can basically figure out on their site what the 8G ecu fits. I've used this page here [url=https://www.vortexcdi.com/manufacturers.php]https://www.vortexcdi.com/manufacturers.php[/url] Basically any relatively new Suzuki, Kawi, 17+...
You can basically figure out on their site what the 8G ecu fits. I've used this page here https://www.vortexcdi.com/manufacturers.php

Basically any relatively new Suzuki, Kawi, 17+ Honda, 16+ KTM etc. maybe more but you'd have to check on your own. Really the best thing to do is to call Twisted Development and check with them before buying or selling...if you plan to purchase their maps. I can't imagine they would have any problem loading tunes for a 2019-2021 KX450 onto your ecu. Should be the exact same hardware. To be clear, I'm not suggesting to call Twisted to kick tires, only to see if they can update your current ecu for you.
I originally sent this ECU to twisted received the ECU back and my bike wouldn't start, then sent the ECU back to them where they told me it was to old

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So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell...
So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell for 400 bucks, everyone keeps asking me what it will go on and I have no idea it's tuned for a 2016 kx450 but no idea if it will work on other makes if tunes for them any insight on this please and thank you!
mxb2 wrote:
Contact vortex, good customer service.
Any chance you have the number to best reach them I am unsure Wich distribution to contact for a good answer
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You can basically figure out on their site what the 8G ecu fits. I've used this page here [url=https://www.vortexcdi.com/manufacturers.php]https://www.vortexcdi.com/manufacturers.php[/url] Basically any relatively new Suzuki, Kawi, 17+...
You can basically figure out on their site what the 8G ecu fits. I've used this page here https://www.vortexcdi.com/manufacturers.php

Basically any relatively new Suzuki, Kawi, 17+ Honda, 16+ KTM etc. maybe more but you'd have to check on your own. Really the best thing to do is to call Twisted Development and check with them before buying or selling...if you plan to purchase their maps. I can't imagine they would have any problem loading tunes for a 2019-2021 KX450 onto your ecu. Should be the exact same hardware. To be clear, I'm not suggesting to call Twisted to kick tires, only to see if they can update your current ecu for you.
I originally sent this ECU to twisted received the ECU back and my bike wouldn't start, then sent the ECU back to them where they told...
I originally sent this ECU to twisted received the ECU back and my bike wouldn't start, then sent the ECU back to them where they told me it was to old
Shit, sorry to hear that. I don't get how the ecu can be too "old", but maybe there is some newer firmware that it doesn't have. I wish I knew more about that layer when it comes to these ecu's. Sounds like your best bet is to reach out to vortex directly.
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So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell...
So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell for 400 bucks, everyone keeps asking me what it will go on and I have no idea it's tuned for a 2016 kx450 but no idea if it will work on other makes if tunes for them any insight on this please and thank you!
mxb2 wrote:
Contact vortex, good customer service.
Any chance you have the number to best reach them I am unsure Wich distribution to contact for a good answer
Plenty usa suppliers
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So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell...
So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell for 400 bucks, everyone keeps asking me what it will go on and I have no idea it's tuned for a 2016 kx450 but no idea if it will work on other makes if tunes for them any insight on this please and thank you!
JohnMatrix wrote:
Hmm you sure about that? Looks like you should have the 8G box which fits most current bikes. I just had an 8G originally tuned for...
Hmm you sure about that? Looks like you should have the 8G box which fits most current bikes. I just had an 8G originally tuned for a Ktm 450 updated with maps for my 2021 KX250. Who told you the ecu was wrong?
Let me know what you think
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nwmx wrote:
Let me know what you think
Will do, should be going out tomorrow
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12/19/2020 11:32am Edited Date/Time 12/19/2020 12:34pm
nwmx wrote:
Let me know what you think
Trying out the vortex at lake Elsinore today. It’s fucking awesome. I’m on map 3 which is map 1 (most power on dyno) minus 2 degrees ignition timing. The bike pulls much better off the bottom end. If I kind of lug it in third through an inside line it recovers much better than stock. Second gear is a rocket out of corners. There’s noticeably more power everywhere. Honestly, it’s perfect. The bike is bone stock aside from the vortex mapped by twisted and some t4 in the gas tank.

Edit, I just tried map 1 and god damn it woke this bike up. I wish I had actual dyno numbers to see how much it picks up with this tune. Bottom to top, the bike shreds. I’m in love. May put a pipe on it when they’re available just to have fancy shit, but it doesn’t need more power for me.
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Let me know what you think
JohnMatrix wrote:
Trying out the vortex at lake Elsinore today. It’s fucking awesome. I’m on map 3 which is map 1 (most power on dyno) minus 2 degrees...
Trying out the vortex at lake Elsinore today. It’s fucking awesome. I’m on map 3 which is map 1 (most power on dyno) minus 2 degrees ignition timing. The bike pulls much better off the bottom end. If I kind of lug it in third through an inside line it recovers much better than stock. Second gear is a rocket out of corners. There’s noticeably more power everywhere. Honestly, it’s perfect. The bike is bone stock aside from the vortex mapped by twisted and some t4 in the gas tank.

Edit, I just tried map 1 and god damn it woke this bike up. I wish I had actual dyno numbers to see how much it picks up with this tune. Bottom to top, the bike shreds. I’m in love. May put a pipe on it when they’re available just to have fancy shit, but it doesn’t need more power for me.
Nice I’ll be doing that too. I have one on my Honda and use T4/u4.4 and same thing it made more of a difference than anything else. Have you thought about a 51 tooth rear sprocket to make third more useable thru corners?

Luckily I found a pro circuit ti-6 in an eBay online store and put that on today so between that and the vortex should rip
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Nice I’ll be doing that too. I have one on my Honda and use T4/u4.4 and same thing it made more of a difference than anything...
Nice I’ll be doing that too. I have one on my Honda and use T4/u4.4 and same thing it made more of a difference than anything else. Have you thought about a 51 tooth rear sprocket to make third more useable thru corners?

Luckily I found a pro circuit ti-6 in an eBay online store and put that on today so between that and the vortex should rip
So far I’m pretty happy with stock gearing. I’ll have to see over time as I get more adjusted to the bike. I haven’t had a 250f in years so still getting used to it a bit.
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So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell...
So after finding out my ECU is to old for my 2019 is I have a basically useless ecu off my 2016 kx, trying to sell for 400 bucks, everyone keeps asking me what it will go on and I have no idea it's tuned for a 2016 kx450 but no idea if it will work on other makes if tunes for them any insight on this please and thank you!

Can I ask how this ended up? 
I have the exact same issue from your previous thread.

The bike just refuses to start no matter if I'm on all 5's,6's,change maps etc.

Driving me crazy and frustrating the hell out of me.

I don't want to start my bike with the original ecu,warm up and switch it etc.

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