Stewart over Everts?

I would have to agree with that, JS is faster than SE72, but I doubt he could have beat him for an outdoor title.

So how many SX titles does Everts have ?

JS will need 5 years of domination to come close to what Everts achieved.

I assumed since the comparison was with Everts that we were referring to MX not SX.

[quote="500guy":19klt82q]So how many SX titles does Everts have ?[/quote:19klt82q]

SX is for pussies we are talking moto here.

[quote="WhKnuckle":382otmfs]According to the latest MXA, they have James Stewart rated above Stefan Everts as the #2 and #3 best riders of the '00s. Well, that's one opinion, but ... James has yet to win a single outdoor title in the 450 class and he's only won one 450 SX title. Stewart probably has more pure speed, but Everts is quite a rider and it's hard to argue with all those titles. Granted, Everts probably would have fewer titles if he'd been racing RC all those years, too, but still, that seems like a tough sell.

Overall, I'd have to say Everts = #2 and Stewart = #3.[/quote:382otmfs]
Everts like RC had staying power, they were able to stay healthy for the most part. Stewart want ever be around long enough to accomplish what RC & Everts did

I think it would depend on what they are basing it on.
Speed or achievements?

[quote="flarider":3e4pj5r4]I think it would depend on what they are basing it on.
Speed or achievements?[/quote:3e4pj5r4]
I would say Stewart has more speed , but didnt they met up one time?

I think james just needs more time to shine. that will be the "proof" to many, injury and pure speed is like many other notables who after time are not remembered as well as the long lasting champions.

There are a few more older riders who i would put in this list, but I am not sure the criteria. LOL it's MXA right? who reads that anymore these days?

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[quote="wardy":2v6vntne] LOL it's MXA right? who reads that anymore these days?

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People who race, not just fans of the sport.

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[quote="flarider":iml9u84t]I think it would depend on what they are basing it on.
Speed or achievements?[/quote:iml9u84t]

Actually there can only one way for a MX rag to measure the "best rider" that would have to be results in heat of the battle which is what the sport is.... It is not about best laps, not appearance of speed, but result while on the track competeting against your peers for the win...dealing with the nerves the pressure and making good decisions while under true race conditions. It just proves what dorks MXA is for putting Stewart above Everts.

[quote="Larry":21e12p7u]JS will need 5 years of domination to come close to what Everts achieved.[/quote:21e12p7u] Yes.

[quote="Larry":2n3sdo3z][quote="500guy":2n3sdo3z]So how many SX titles does Everts have ?[/quote:2n3sdo3z]

SX is for pussies we are talking moto here.[/quote:2n3sdo3z]

I think you would have to be pretty selective about your criteria to put JS ahead of Everts.

[quote="nc97":7x9sihwd][quote="flarider":7x9sihwd]I think it would depend on what they are basing it on.
Speed or achievements?[/quote:7x9sihwd]
I would say Stewart has more speed , but didnt they met up one time?[/quote:7x9sihwd]

Yes, and James and his team beat Everts and his team. James rode 80% that day. Never jumped the triple. Read his pit board instructions and FOLLOWED them. James was awesome that day.

BTW - I think Everts should be rated above James in the big picture both now and until James retires and then re-evaluate.

No way is JS, even close to Everts.
I know everyone will say Js was playing it safe for the team, but at the MXDN, he was trying his ass off and was just making mistake after mistake until he gave up on Everts.
I am in no way a big Everts fan, but he is a class act on a bike you could never get tired of watching him ride with that style and grace.

Everts is a great rider for the place he was riding, for sure.

He raced the guys who were left over there, and beat them most of the time. Sure you can wonder what might have happened if so many of the top guys hadn't moved over to this side as they hit their prime, just as you can wonder what might have happened had he actually had to race someone like RC during his career.....

Either way, he's got a room full of trophys, and a place in the history books. He has the most World titles of anyone, but for some reason I still think that Decoster's five titles are as impressive as Evert's ten, but different eras......

[quote="APLMAN":16yb30nn]Everts is a great rider for the place he was riding, for sure.

He raced the guys who were left over there, and beat them most of the time. Sure you can wonder what might have happened if so many of the top guys hadn't moved over to this side as they hit their prime, just as you can wonder what might have happened had he actually had to race someone like RC during his career.....

Either way, he's got a room full of trophys, and a place in the history books. He has the most World titles of anyone, but for some reason I still think that Decoster's five titles are as impressive as Evert's ten, but different eras......[/quote:16yb30nn]

But what you need to remember is, that Everts beat everyone of those guys at one point or another before they went to the US.
I don't think he could of beat RC, but JS, he can't even be considered in the same league as Everts.

[quote="chrisgg90":1bgs8bme][quote="APLMAN":1bgs8bme]Everts is a great rider for the place he was riding, for sure.

He raced the guys who were left over there, and beat them most of the time. Sure you can wonder what might have happened if so many of the top guys hadn't moved over to this side as they hit their prime, just as you can wonder what might have happened had he actually had to race someone like RC during his career.....

Either way, he's got a room full of trophys, and a place in the history books. He has the most World titles of anyone, but for some reason I still think that Decoster's five titles are as impressive as Evert's ten, but different eras......[/quote:1bgs8bme]

But what you need to remember is, that Everts beat everyone of those guys at one point or another before they went to the US.
I don't think he could of beat RC, but JS, he can't even be considered in the same league as Everts.[/quote:1bgs8bme]


Not every one. Langston for example came over right after a title.

And most of those guys left Europe before their real prime.

That's the only real question mark, during the time that Everts was winning, the GPs were losing talent like crazy. It wasn't the place to go to race the top guys like it was back in the 70s. I mean, Trampas Parker won titles there, Bob Moore won titles there, Mike Healey came damn close! I can't imagine any of those guys having the success they did over here.

[quote="Scott Kalisch.":2e3o6te0]MXA should of choosen Everts over Stewart. Stewart should not even be in the top 50. He can't even win an outdoor title in the 450 class. He just doesn't meet my standards. He is such a drama queen also. He should just quit and go race Nascar.

Ben Townley will lay waste to Stewart in outdoors. This is 100% fact. Mike Alessi and Kevin Windham will also beat him. He will loose his ride to Ryan Villipoto and end up a privateer next year. These are all facts. Don't hate me because I tell the truth.[/quote:2e3o6te0]

bob hannah would kick both their asses .

[quote="Larry":3kzqaufv]JS will need 5 years of domination to come close to what Everts achieved.[/quote:3kzqaufv]

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[quote="Scott Kalisch.":1sa77042]MXA should of choosen Everts over Stewart. Stewart should not even be in the top 50. He can't even win an outdoor title in the 450 class. He just doesn't meet my standards. He is such a drama queen also. He should just quit and go race Nascar.

Ben Townley will lay waste to Stewart in outdoors. This is 100% fact. Mike Alessi and Kevin Windham will also beat him. He will loose his ride to Ryan Villipoto and end up a privateer next year. These are all facts. Don't hate me because I tell the truth.[/quote:1sa77042]

wow Scott... You're an idiot.

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Comparing Stewart to Everts is a joke, they're not even in the same league.

Everts is a multiple world champion, Stewart can't win his [b:2tiqg7gm]domestic[/b:2tiqg7gm] championship after 3 attempts. By the end of the outdoor season you can make that 4 attempts and after that you'll have a more experienced BT and a hungry RV competing with him, assuming Stewart is still there.

He was good on a 125 against the likes of Mike Brown, but that's it. Stewart is the most hyped rider in the history of the sport.

[quote="FARANG":2rrr1q5c]Comparing Stewart to Everts is a joke, they're not even in the same league.

Everts is a multiple world champion, Stewart can't win his [b:2rrr1q5c]domestic[/b:2rrr1q5c] championship after 3 attempts. By the end of the outdoor season you can make that 4 attempts and after that you'll have a more experienced BT and a hungry RV competing with him, assuming Stewart is still there.

He was good on a 125 against the likes of Mike Brown, but that's it. Stewart is the most hyped rider in the history of the sport.[/quote:2rrr1q5c]


Wow nice first post and I must say I agree with you!

[quote="FARANG":19ajkngt]Comparing Stewart to Everts is a joke, they're not even in the same league.

Everts is a multiple world champion, Stewart can't win his [b:19ajkngt]domestic[/b:19ajkngt] championship after 3 attempts. By the end of the outdoor season you can make that 4 attempts and after that you'll have a more experienced BT and a hungry RV competing with him, assuming Stewart is still there.

He was good on a 125 against the likes of Mike Brown, but that's it. Stewart is the most hyped rider in the history of the sport.[/quote:19ajkngt]

Please, just because the GPs travel to different countries doesn't mean they are any better than the AMA series. Also, are you talking abotu the same Mike Brown that won a round of your precious World MX Championships, but couldn't come close to doing that here?

[quote="leakypipe23":f8hozaw9][quote="FARANG":f8hozaw9]Comparing Stewart to Everts is a joke, they're not even in the same league.

Everts is a multiple world champion, Stewart can't win his [b:f8hozaw9]domestic[/b:f8hozaw9] championship after 3 attempts. By the end of the outdoor season you can make that 4 attempts and after that you'll have a more experienced BT and a hungry RV competing with him, assuming Stewart is still there.

He was good on a 125 against the likes of Mike Brown, but that's it. Stewart is the most hyped rider in the history of the sport.[/quote:f8hozaw9]

Please, just because the GPs travel to different countries doesn't mean they are any better than the AMA series. Also, are you talking abotu the same Mike Brown that won a round of your precious World MX Championships, but couldn't come close to doing that here?[/quote:f8hozaw9]

Mike Brown never won a AMA National? What planet did you come from?