Pingres opinion about the RV situation

Edited Date/Time 4/25/2015 10:35am
Q&A Pingree

I’m pretty perplexed myself, John. I think we have to admit that we underestimated how difficult it is to transition from one series to the next. I know it seems like a bike is a bike and a track is a track and the best guy should always win, but it just isn’t that way. Many of the top Euro riders have come over, including Everts, and none of them have won here right away. The two series are different enough that it takes some time to acclimate. When RV announced he was going over there my reaction was no different from any other American: I was out in front of my house in my Old Glory Speedo firing off .38 rounds with one hand and eating a greasy cheeseburger with the other. It’s the American way. I was celebrating before the first gate even dropped because he’s an American, dammit, and that’s what we do—we win. Well, not this time, Kemosabe. Tony Cairoli, Max Nagl, and the Panda have a massive points gap, and unless all three of them suck sand next weekend and blow up…in both motos…RV is out of this. Just like when Napoleon Dynamite’s grandma took a little spill at the sand dunes and broke her coccyx, Ryan Villopoto is going to be feeling the effects of his Larry Loopout moment in Italy. I’m really hoping that doesn’t mean he’ll be as fast as Uncle Rico at the next few rounds, but I don’t know how amazing he's going to be in the deep Belgian sand with a cracked backside. All we can do is support our boy and, if he wins again, bust out the stars-and-stripes Speedo and make some noise.

PING


Well said mr David.






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4/24/2015 8:18am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2015 8:18am
And now we hope rv will make it to the vaalk!
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4/24/2015 8:26am
Valkenswaard isnt in Belgium...
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4/24/2015 8:27am
Cool but how is that any different than anybody else's opinion on vital?
4/24/2015 8:36am
Cool but how is that any different than anybody else's opinion on vital?
Its not but its interesting to hear what he thinks. There is plenty of arguments here on vital and everyone do not agree with this.

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4/24/2015 8:37am
philG wrote:
Valkenswaard isnt in Belgium...
I dont think he meant this particular round, Valk is in holland so yeah Tongue
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4/24/2015 9:12am
Cool but how is that any different than anybody else's opinion on vital?
It's coming from a guy that's actually raced at the top level.
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4/24/2015 9:24am
1) Valkenswaard is in Holland

2) Everts never raced an entire outdoor series in the US.
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4/24/2015 9:25am
philG wrote:
Valkenswaard isnt in Belgium...
I dont think he meant this particular round, Valk is in holland so yeah Tongue
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
4/24/2015 9:27am
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
Oh hahah someone told me yesterday it was. Thx Tongue i got confused
4/24/2015 9:28am
Fearo wrote:
1) Valkenswaard is in Holland

2) Everts never raced an entire outdoor series in the US.
No he did not but he was over for some races. Would have been cool if he did a full season. But RV is the only 450 champ in modern time to make the switch! I would love to see Tony do the same.
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4/24/2015 9:34am Edited Date/Time 4/24/2015 9:35am
Fearo wrote:
1) Valkenswaard is in Holland

2) Everts never raced an entire outdoor series in the US.
So you, from Belgium, does not know Valkenswaard is in Noord-Brabant? You should know better, even when you are from Wallonia.
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4/24/2015 9:38am
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
Oh hahah someone told me yesterday it was. Thx Tongue i got confused
Because the big 'attractions' in The Netherlands are in Noord (North)-Holland or Zuid (South)-Holland so everybody just assumes The Netherlands is all in one of the Hollands. It's like everything in the US is in New York so Laguna Beach is in NY, simple as that.
4/24/2015 9:48am
I have a feeling that it is really an urgent necessity for a lot of american MX fans to "dominate" or "crush the competition" and stuff like that and I think that's one of the main reasons for all that AMA vs GP nonsense that currently is going on. Am I wrong with that? I have to admit that I sometimes feel a little offended by that behavior for whatever reason. I mean, sure it's sports and it's about winning and you have your guy's and so on. It just doesn't seem to me that easygoing as I thought it would be with them.
As for myself as a german, sure I'm happy when Roczen or Nagl are doing well but honestly, if Roc would have lost the title last year, I would've been that upset. And I am pretty sure the same applies for the majority of my fellow countrymen. Can't help it.
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4/24/2015 9:55am
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
Oh hahah someone told me yesterday it was. Thx Tongue i got confused
Stefan82 wrote:
Because the big 'attractions' in The Netherlands are in Noord (North)-Holland or Zuid (South)-Holland so everybody just assumes The Netherlands is all in one of the...
Because the big 'attractions' in The Netherlands are in Noord (North)-Holland or Zuid (South)-Holland so everybody just assumes The Netherlands is all in one of the Hollands. It's like everything in the US is in New York so Laguna Beach is in NY, simple as that.
If you ever ask a European about American geography they are just as dumb, and you typically get told something like, "I'm talking about world geography."

I guess America is not part of the world anymore....
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4/24/2015 9:56am
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
I guess that's why they just said fuck it ... we'll call it the GP of Europe.
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4/24/2015 10:00am
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I guess that's why they just said fuck it ... we'll call it the GP of Europe.
If you don't live in that area of the world, you typically don't give a shit about the geography of it. I'm surprised people got as close as they did with Holland.
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4/24/2015 10:00am
No he did not but he was over for some races. Would have been cool if he did a full season. But RV is the only...
No he did not but he was over for some races. Would have been cool if he did a full season. But RV is the only 450 champ in modern time to make the switch! I would love to see Tony do the same.
Tony never would.

And the GP fanboys would say "why" he is already world champ.

But the balls RV had to even go over there shows much more about him than anything.

Whilst, a failed attempt, he made the attempt.

I hope he comes back next year and tries his hand again. I would expect different results.
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4/24/2015 10:11am
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I guess that's why they just said fuck it ... we'll call it the GP of Europe.
A. DLeary wrote:
If you don't live in that area of the world, you typically don't give a shit about the geography of it. I'm surprised people got as...
If you don't live in that area of the world, you typically don't give a shit about the geography of it. I'm surprised people got as close as they did with Holland.
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4/24/2015 10:23am
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
ATKpilot99 wrote:
I guess that's why they just said fuck it ... we'll call it the GP of Europe.
Could have called it the Benelux GP, that has been done before. Benelux meaning, Belgium, The Netherlands and Luxembourg. Lol.
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4/24/2015 10:26am
*** the comment below is just a personal thought and does not in any way take away from the skills, talent and results we have seen from the other riders.....

SInce round one and even some of the pre season videos.....I just wonder in my head if RV was 100% in the game......There wasnt much mention of RV racing GP's then it just came about pretty quickly.... Was the GP's sort of a " hey Ryan, we know you want to retire, but maybe try the GP's out..." type of arrangment with kawasaki? I heard more about RV opting out of his contract and retiring than the GP's before it was announced....

For the record, I didnt think RV would jump across the pond and just whoop everyones ass...i did however think over time, and still do think (had he not been injured obviously) we would see RV close that gap and the 2nd half of the series we would see RV a top the box more often than not....Italy was only round 4 of 17..... but injuries are injuries...and its a bummer we'll never know....Italy was some very close racing so nobody was getting " smoked " by anyone...
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4/24/2015 10:29am
Fearo wrote:
1) Valkenswaard is in Holland

2) Everts never raced an entire outdoor series in the US.
Stefan82 wrote:
So you, from Belgium, does not know Valkenswaard is in Noord-Brabant? You should know better, even when you are from Wallonia.
"Holland" is used as slang in Belgium for "The Netherlands".
4/24/2015 10:49am
I have a feeling that it is really an urgent necessity for a lot of american MX fans to "dominate" or "crush the competition" and stuff...
I have a feeling that it is really an urgent necessity for a lot of american MX fans to "dominate" or "crush the competition" and stuff like that and I think that's one of the main reasons for all that AMA vs GP nonsense that currently is going on. Am I wrong with that? I have to admit that I sometimes feel a little offended by that behavior for whatever reason. I mean, sure it's sports and it's about winning and you have your guy's and so on. It just doesn't seem to me that easygoing as I thought it would be with them.
As for myself as a german, sure I'm happy when Roczen or Nagl are doing well but honestly, if Roc would have lost the title last year, I would've been that upset. And I am pretty sure the same applies for the majority of my fellow countrymen. Can't help it.
Yes you're right, look up "American mentality" or something similar and it should explain it for you. Their patriotism and optimism makes them more competitive. Of course this mentality has made them achieve great things, but to people of other cultures who see themselves as realists they may come across as brash or ignorant at times, which is probably what you mean by feeling a little offended by it.
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4/24/2015 10:55am
I went to school with a kid named Ray Holland, that's got to count for something.
4/24/2015 11:17am
Yes you're right, look up "American mentality" or something similar and it should explain it for you. Their patriotism and optimism makes them more competitive. Of...
Yes you're right, look up "American mentality" or something similar and it should explain it for you. Their patriotism and optimism makes them more competitive. Of course this mentality has made them achieve great things, but to people of other cultures who see themselves as realists they may come across as brash or ignorant at times, which is probably what you mean by feeling a little offended by it.
It's a bit off of MX topic but I wouldn't see myself as less optimistic. That patriotism topic isn't unknown here but public opinion about it is that it degrades others. That's why it is mostly unpopular here. Maybe the reason is to find in the constitution as well. 1st amendment here: dignity of men. which is what in the US 5th? far behind the right to bear arms...man I don't know. BRAAAAAAAAP!
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4/24/2015 11:18am
This kind of reminds of the mayweather/pacquiao arguments.
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4/24/2015 11:57am
Yes you're right, look up "American mentality" or something similar and it should explain it for you. Their patriotism and optimism makes them more competitive. Of...
Yes you're right, look up "American mentality" or something similar and it should explain it for you. Their patriotism and optimism makes them more competitive. Of course this mentality has made them achieve great things, but to people of other cultures who see themselves as realists they may come across as brash or ignorant at times, which is probably what you mean by feeling a little offended by it.
It's a bit off of MX topic but I wouldn't see myself as less optimistic. That patriotism topic isn't unknown here but public opinion about it...
It's a bit off of MX topic but I wouldn't see myself as less optimistic. That patriotism topic isn't unknown here but public opinion about it is that it degrades others. That's why it is mostly unpopular here. Maybe the reason is to find in the constitution as well. 1st amendment here: dignity of men. which is what in the US 5th? far behind the right to bear arms...man I don't know. BRAAAAAAAAP!
Maybe your patriotism is low because the last time Germany did something noteworthy, the rest of the world wasn't super pumped on it...

Tongue

I am of German heritage, so I'm just kidding.
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4/24/2015 12:13pm Edited Date/Time 4/24/2015 12:14pm
Stefan82 wrote:
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both...
Valkenswaard is not in Holland, it is in Noord-Brabant, and Assen (later this year) is not in Holland either, that is in the province Drenthe. Both are in The Netherlands, that is not Holland, Holland is in The Netherlands tho. So now you have got it, spread the word.
I thought Valkensswaard was a suburb in Los Angeles. Woohoo Seriously thank you for this clarifying information.
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4/24/2015 12:24pm
Anyone remember Rusty Holland? Dude was badass on a scooter and funny as hell.
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4/24/2015 12:34pm
Fearo wrote:
1) Valkenswaard is in Holland

2) Everts never raced an entire outdoor series in the US.
Stefan82 wrote:
So you, from Belgium, does not know Valkenswaard is in Noord-Brabant? You should know better, even when you are from Wallonia.
Nobody, and I mean NOBODY in Belgium says "Nederland". To us, your country is "Holland" and you are "de Hollanders". No disrespect, but that's the way it is.
4/24/2015 1:40pm
Grieby54 wrote:
Maybe your patriotism is low because the last time Germany did something noteworthy, the rest of the world wasn't super pumped on it... :P I am...
Maybe your patriotism is low because the last time Germany did something noteworthy, the rest of the world wasn't super pumped on it...

Tongue

I am of German heritage, so I'm just kidding.
oh you mean because we bombed pearl harbor back then...

no honestly you may have a point. nobody will never ever get that part of history out of any germans head, even though the Führer wasn't even german himself. He was born within spitting distance to Mattighofen (get this!) in Austria. lol

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