Helmet Safety Question

Edited Date/Time 1/26/2012 10:49pm
This has probably been debated on here many times but is there any info out there on who's lid is safer, built better or basically offers better protection then the rest?? I suffered a nasty concussion [b:1ddsh36c]IN the Hospital [/b:1ddsh36c]after i broke my collar bone back in Oct. I'm still suffering from post concussion Syndrom but when i do ride again (hopefully soon) i want the best or safest lid available. I'm sponsored by Fox and wear V3's but my accessories guys insist i get Arai's or Shoei's. Any body have any info?? Test results?? thanks
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2/12/2008 3:59pm
I think you'll get mostly opinion and few actual facts.
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2/12/2008 4:06pm
Last year I went looking for the same info after my son suffered a pretty bad concussion. He was wearing a shoei and still does (not the same one of course) but I have yet to find any evidence supporting the claim that shoei's or Arai's are safer.
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2/12/2008 6:54pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
That was a really great article from Motorcyclist magazine. I prefer to use Suomy helmets from Italy. If you go to their website and read the testing materials, I think you'll like what you read. I can't wear Shoei as they don't fit my head shape.
http://www.suomy.com

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2/12/2008 8:57pm
Somebody dropped you off an x-ray table?
2/12/2008 10:57pm
I've cracked two fox helmets. Both were similar temple area cracks, similar fall, nothing major. I'd shell out the extra dough for a Shoei or Arai.
2/12/2008 11:44pm
I think there are a relatively small number of helmet manufacturers. I was once in the showroom at KBC's headquarters, and was surprised at the variety of companies they make helmets for.

I guarantee that you can get concussions in just about any brand helmet (been there, done that). I have what was essentially a brand-new Shoei that I crashed and got a concussion with. I had the guys at Shoei inspect it and they told me I was good to go...which sort of made me nervous.
Find something that fits [i:3uqzyxgp]you[/i:3uqzyxgp] comfortably. Everyone has a unique head shape.
Try and find something that has a reputation for being a quality-built helmet.
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2/13/2008 5:33am
shoei gives the least concussion plus they look cool!
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2/13/2008 5:43am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="TeamGrnRacer99":1u7bhouz]This has probably been debated on here many times but is there any info out there on who's lid is safer, built better or basically offers better protection then the rest?? I suffered a nasty concussion [b:1u7bhouz]IN the Hospital [/b:1u7bhouz]after i broke my collar bone back in Oct. I'm still suffering from post concussion Syndrom but when i do ride again (hopefully soon) i want the best or safest lid available. I'm sponsored by Fox and wear V3's but my accessories guys insist i get Arai's or Shoei's. Any body have any info?? Test results?? thanks[/quote:1u7bhouz]

Talk to your Tucker Rocky sales rep and get the Arai. In my opinion and based on the information that I have read they are the safest helmets on the market. If it was my head I'd be buying an Arai.
2/13/2008 5:55am
I thought the way Shoeis and Arais worked was you get more concussions then other helmets, but were less likely to have life threatening head injuries? Whereas middle of the line helmets prevented you from concussions but were less likely to save your life in a very serious crash. Am I wrong in this understanding?
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2/13/2008 6:20am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="lukaitis9":3cqrcbnt][quote="TeamGrnRacer99":3cqrcbnt]This has probably been debated on here many times but is there any info out there on who's lid is safer, built better or basically offers better protection then the rest?? I suffered a nasty concussion [b:3cqrcbnt]IN the Hospital [/b:3cqrcbnt]after i broke my collar bone back in Oct. I'm still suffering from post concussion Syndrom but when i do ride again (hopefully soon) i want the best or safest lid available. I'm sponsored by Fox and wear V3's but my accessories guys insist i get Arai's or Shoei's. Any body have any info?? Test results?? thanks[/quote:3cqrcbnt]

Talk to your Tucker Rocky sales rep and get the Arai. In my opinion and based on the information that I have read they are the safest helmets on the market. If it was my head I'd be buying an Arai.[/quote:3cqrcbnt]


A good friend of mine that is a TR rep said he will ONLY wear Arai now. He used to only wear Shoei, but he watched a video from Arai and said that is the only thing that he would wear...regardless if he had to pay full price or not.
2/13/2008 6:24am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="huck":3rf12miv][quote="lukaitis9":3rf12miv][quote="TeamGrnRacer99":3rf12miv]This has probably been debated on here many times but is there any info out there on who's lid is safer, built better or basically offers better protection then the rest?? I suffered a nasty concussion [b:3rf12miv]IN the Hospital [/b:3rf12miv]after i broke my collar bone back in Oct. I'm still suffering from post concussion Syndrom but when i do ride again (hopefully soon) i want the best or safest lid available. I'm sponsored by Fox and wear V3's but my accessories guys insist i get Arai's or Shoei's. Any body have any info?? Test results?? thanks[/quote:3rf12miv]

Talk to your Tucker Rocky sales rep and get the Arai. In my opinion and based on the information that I have read they are the safest helmets on the market. If it was my head I'd be buying an Arai.[/quote:3rf12miv]


A good friend of mine that is a TR rep said he will ONLY wear Arai now. He used to only wear Shoei, but he watched a video from Arai and said that is the only thing that he would wear...regardless if he had to pay full price or not.[/quote:3rf12miv]


Our local TR rep was the same way. But this year he switched to the Shark helmets said they are as good or better than Arai. Probably got his for free . DV and MA both wear the Sharks also .
2/13/2008 6:36am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="SteveS":20a01ond]Somebody dropped you off an x-ray table?[/quote:20a01ond]

NO i had to take a leak and the lazy pigs in the E.R. wouldn't bring me anything or help me to the can. they made my wife walk with me and i passed out in the can cracking my grape on the sink then the floor. i was out cold for 10 minutes or so. they said i passed out from the morphine injection for pain.
2/13/2008 6:40am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="rightseat":1fczhlb5]I've cracked two fox helmets. Both were similar temple area cracks, similar fall, nothing major. I'd shell out the extra dough for a Shoei or Arai.[/quote:1fczhlb5]

i cracked a V3 last year form a hard face plant, split right down the chin bar, and a few of my riders also broke V3's we were told the helmet cracks to absorb the shock instead of your head??
2/13/2008 7:29am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="TeamGrnRacer99":1zvl0pt0][quote="SteveS":1zvl0pt0]Somebody dropped you off an x-ray table?[/quote:1zvl0pt0]

NO i had to take a leak and the lazy pigs in the E.R. wouldn't bring me anything or help me to the can. they made my wife walk with me and i passed out in the can cracking my grape on the sink then the floor. i was out cold for 10 minutes or so. they said i passed out from the morphine injection for pain.[/quote:1zvl0pt0]

Free ER visit?
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2/13/2008 7:37am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="TeamGrnRacer99":3d8kvecn][quote="SteveS":3d8kvecn]Somebody dropped you off an x-ray table?[/quote:3d8kvecn]

NO i had to take a leak and the lazy pigs in the E.R. wouldn't bring me anything or help me to the can. they made my wife walk with me and i passed out in the can cracking my grape on the sink then the floor. i was out cold for 10 minutes or so. they said i passed out from the morphine injection for pain.[/quote:3d8kvecn]They gave you morphine for a broken collarbone??
2/13/2008 7:46am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="rocrac":1yge94j3][quote="TeamGrnRacer99":1yge94j3][quote="SteveS":1yge94j3]Somebody dropped you off an x-ray table?[/quote:1yge94j3]

NO i had to take a leak and the lazy pigs in the E.R. wouldn't bring me anything or help me to the can. they made my wife walk with me and i passed out in the can cracking my grape on the sink then the floor. i was out cold for 10 minutes or so. they said i passed out from the morphine injection for pain.[/quote:1yge94j3]They gave you morphine for a broken collarbone??[/quote:1yge94j3]

they gave me 2 shots of some pain killer that didn't do squat so they shot me with morphine. i broke it in 3 places.
the Hospital was a freak'n "Butcher Shop"
2/13/2008 7:48am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="SteveS":tbvfo12s][quote="TeamGrnRacer99":tbvfo12s][quote="SteveS":tbvfo12s]Somebody dropped you off an x-ray table?[/quote:tbvfo12s]

NO i had to take a leak and the lazy pigs in the E.R. wouldn't bring me anything or help me to the can. they made my wife walk with me and i passed out in the can cracking my grape on the sink then the floor. i was out cold for 10 minutes or so. they said i passed out from the morphine injection for pain.[/quote:tbvfo12s]

Free ER visit?[/quote:tbvfo12s]

Free Corvette or maybe a Porsche?? :D:D
2/13/2008 8:01am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="KAWboy14":3hyvxlwq]shoei gives the least concussion plus they look cool![/quote:3hyvxlwq]
not according to that report... and shoei's arent that cool looking anymore. most helmet co's have decent graphics on them. i read this report a couple of years ago and it convinced me that a DOT only helmet was a great way to go but i had already gotten a DOT/SNELL helmet so next time...
2/13/2008 8:03am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="zookrider62":urtetukh]I thought the way Shoeis and Arais worked was you get more concussions then other helmets, but were less likely to have life threatening head injuries? Whereas middle of the line helmets prevented you from concussions but were less likely to save your life in a very serious crash. Am I wrong in this understanding?[/quote:urtetukh]
in essence yes BUT at that point you'll most likey die from the other injuries sustained according to the report so less concussions would be better...
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2/13/2008 8:47am
I wear a Shoei VM-T cause my head does not fit Arai.

The VM-T fits my head like a glove and is very comfy.

You do not need to spend a fortune to have a high end helmet, solid Black or White are $279.

I know lots of you are more concewrned about what MFG has the sick graphics but thetas the last thing I give a shit about when it comes to helmets (or any other product for that matter).
2/13/2008 8:55am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="rightseat":2w4jewxi]I've cracked two fox helmets. Both were similar temple area cracks, similar fall, nothing major. I'd shell out the extra dough for a Shoei or Arai.[/quote:2w4jewxi]


Those cracks might have saved your life!!!!!!!
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2/13/2008 9:30am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="Dust Devil":21isclyt]I wear a Shoei VM-T cause my head does not fit Arai.

The VM-T fits my head like a glove and is very comfy.

You do not need to spend a fortune to have a high end helmet, solid Black or White are $279.

I know lots of you are more concewrned about what MFG has the sick graphics but thetas the last thing I give a shit about when it comes to helmets (or any other product for that matter).[/quote:21isclyt]
Watch e-bay for dealer closeouts. The last two I bought were for $200
2/13/2008 9:43am Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="rockcrawlerdude":2vib28cg][quote="zookrider62":2vib28cg]I thought the way Shoeis and Arais worked was you get more concussions then other helmets, but were less likely to have life threatening head injuries? Whereas middle of the line helmets prevented you from concussions but were less likely to save your life in a very serious crash. Am I wrong in this understanding?[/quote:2vib28cg]
in essence yes BUT at that point you'll most likey die from the other injuries sustained according to the report so less concussions would be better...[/quote:2vib28cg]
So basically youre saying Shoeis arent what theyre cracked up to be, correct? What about Arais?
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2/13/2008 11:08am
I personally think there needs to be more done with helmets and motocross. Maybe they are at the best they can be right now but it's like there really hasn't been any further development to prevent concussions and serious injury. When you land on your head it would be nice to not feel anything except a nice cushion instead of a throbbing headache, being knocked unconconscious, or serious head injury. I landed on my head a few years ago and didn't really fall that hard but landed straight on my noggin and got a bad instant headache and rolled myself off the side of the track. I felt stupid for about 2 weeks. Must of had a concussion.
2/13/2008 11:32am
How do you pick a terrain for off-road helmet testing? Sand? So. Cal. baked adobe? Rocky stuff? Super-tacky loam, where the rider's head sticks when he lands?

I'm not sure there's any perfect answer.
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2/13/2008 12:39pm Edited Date/Time 4/16/2016 6:10pm
[quote="flarider":1sptddtc]This is probably the best thing I have ever read regarding motorcycle helmets.
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/gearb ... et_review/
It's very accurate and unbiased.[/quote:1sptddtc]

Dave, I was told by my TR rep that the article you have posted was not exactly un-biased. The story I was told was that the people who wrote that article were actually trying to become THE independent testing laboratory that all the helmet manufacturers used to get their ratings, such as snell or dot. I was told that they didn't get the nod for one reason or another and that the article was written by them sort of as a way to get back at the helmet industry. There are some valid points there but I still think that people need to know about where their information comes from.

Apparently, this was covered in a Tucker Rocker/Arai dealer training seminar of some sort. All of the TR guys I've talked to spoke the same type info. All good info, about the Arai helmets. I have worn lots of different helmets and the Arai is the best in my opinion.

Anyone else noticed a lot of the high profile riders, after a couple hard jolts to the noggin, switch to Arai helmets and put their sponsor sticker on the lid? A couple of note lately, Pastrana, and Hepler. If I'm not mistaken those guys bought those helmets as well. I'm thinking even KW buys his Arais. I don't know of any other helmets that sponsored riders switch to mid-season and cover with their own sponsor stickers.

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