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This was actually mentioned by another member in the Flo Mavtv thread ( whyZ) but what a chance for him to do a first story. Whatever it takes I'd figure it out and make it happen. Probably the biggest story in moto ever ( even more so with the Wold Supercross coming to life ) with so many questions and the timing. I was shocked by the amount of people that didn't know who he is... If he landed this interview there wouldn't be a single person that's even remotely interested in this sport that wouldn't know who he is.
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Darksidemx3 7/1/2022 4:52pm
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This was actually mentioned by another member in the Flo Mavtv thread ( whyZ) but what a chance for him to do a first story. Whatever...
This was actually mentioned by another member in the Flo Mavtv thread ( whyZ) but what a chance for him to do a first story. Whatever it takes I'd figure it out and make it happen. Probably the biggest story in moto ever ( even more so with the Wold Supercross coming to life ) with so many questions and the timing. I was shocked by the amount of people that didn't know who he is... If he landed this interview there wouldn't be a single person that's even remotely interested in this sport that wouldn't know who he is.
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask him, though
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Magoofan 7/1/2022 4:58pm
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Can I sing my Hotel MAVTV+ song during the interview?

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mofomotojoe 7/1/2022 4:59pm
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Mr Side, please also ask Ricky Carmichael what he thinks about being entrusted into a management role of the US team for the Nations, hypothetically...

oh, and another project idea, a wrap up show of the Gipsy Tales moto related podcasts where you could filter the expletive language down to a family friendly podcast while also not over-bro-ing the guests. Some vitards might enjoy that. Hope Jase and you can work something out.

cheers,
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soresammy 7/1/2022 5:10pm
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soresammy wrote:
This was actually mentioned by another member in the Flo Mavtv thread ( whyZ) but what a chance for him to do a first story. Whatever...
This was actually mentioned by another member in the Flo Mavtv thread ( whyZ) but what a chance for him to do a first story. Whatever it takes I'd figure it out and make it happen. Probably the biggest story in moto ever ( even more so with the Wold Supercross coming to life ) with so many questions and the timing. I was shocked by the amount of people that didn't know who he is... If he landed this interview there wouldn't be a single person that's even remotely interested in this sport that wouldn't know who he is.
Darksidemx3 wrote:
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask...
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask him, though
Awesome and good luck. You'll be ok either way, You didn't just luck into this position here.
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Nathaniel129 7/1/2022 5:12pm
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Darksidemx3 wrote:
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask...
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask him, though
Look Jamie, I respect what you do and all the BS you put up with from Pulp (I know it's in good fun)...
BUT this is EXACTLY what we're talking about when it comes to journalism in this sport.
He won't talk about it? Of course he won't, because the precedent has been set for years that the truly hard questions won't be asked.
How dare the people who enable this sport to even be somewhat successful (weekend warriors, ticket-purchasers, website-vistors) want real answers about one of the biggest fails this sport has ever seen.
I don't know if DC was complicit in this failure, I don't know if he knew it was a risk and lied to us (I tend to think he didn't lie), and I definitely don't know where the train actually left the tracks.
We are left to speculate and wonder why. Which brings us back to your response....he won't answer.
I don't even expect him to come on here and subject himself to the irrational and all-knowing Vitards, that's a lose-lose for him.
We all just want answers, period. He SHOULD go on a podcast, or release a Weege-Style YouTube/Social Media video laying things out.
It's really unfortunate that probably won't happen. Hopefully Flo is a huge improvement...regardless, I think the PAYING customers who were promised a certain product at the beginning of the nationals deserve some real answers.
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Darksidemx3 wrote:
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask...
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask him, though
Nathaniel129 wrote:
Look Jamie, I respect what you do and all the BS you put up with from Pulp (I know it's in good fun)... BUT this is...
Look Jamie, I respect what you do and all the BS you put up with from Pulp (I know it's in good fun)...
BUT this is EXACTLY what we're talking about when it comes to journalism in this sport.
He won't talk about it? Of course he won't, because the precedent has been set for years that the truly hard questions won't be asked.
How dare the people who enable this sport to even be somewhat successful (weekend warriors, ticket-purchasers, website-vistors) want real answers about one of the biggest fails this sport has ever seen.
I don't know if DC was complicit in this failure, I don't know if he knew it was a risk and lied to us (I tend to think he didn't lie), and I definitely don't know where the train actually left the tracks.
We are left to speculate and wonder why. Which brings us back to your response....he won't answer.
I don't even expect him to come on here and subject himself to the irrational and all-knowing Vitards, that's a lose-lose for him.
We all just want answers, period. He SHOULD go on a podcast, or release a Weege-Style YouTube/Social Media video laying things out.
It's really unfortunate that probably won't happen. Hopefully Flo is a huge improvement...regardless, I think the PAYING customers who were promised a certain product at the beginning of the nationals deserve some real answers.
Perfectly put. Thank you.
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Motodave15 7/1/2022 5:16pm
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Magoofan wrote:
Can I sing my Hotel MAVTV+ song during the interview?

such a lonely place, such a lonely place!
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Darksidemx3 wrote:
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask...
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask him, though
Nathaniel129 wrote:
Look Jamie, I respect what you do and all the BS you put up with from Pulp (I know it's in good fun)... BUT this is...
Look Jamie, I respect what you do and all the BS you put up with from Pulp (I know it's in good fun)...
BUT this is EXACTLY what we're talking about when it comes to journalism in this sport.
He won't talk about it? Of course he won't, because the precedent has been set for years that the truly hard questions won't be asked.
How dare the people who enable this sport to even be somewhat successful (weekend warriors, ticket-purchasers, website-vistors) want real answers about one of the biggest fails this sport has ever seen.
I don't know if DC was complicit in this failure, I don't know if he knew it was a risk and lied to us (I tend to think he didn't lie), and I definitely don't know where the train actually left the tracks.
We are left to speculate and wonder why. Which brings us back to your response....he won't answer.
I don't even expect him to come on here and subject himself to the irrational and all-knowing Vitards, that's a lose-lose for him.
We all just want answers, period. He SHOULD go on a podcast, or release a Weege-Style YouTube/Social Media video laying things out.
It's really unfortunate that probably won't happen. Hopefully Flo is a huge improvement...regardless, I think the PAYING customers who were promised a certain product at the beginning of the nationals deserve some real answers.
You'd have a better chance of survival being a real journalist in Russia than moto.
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Darksidemx3 wrote:
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask...
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask him, though
Nathaniel129 has a good point. I get that he would want to do something on his own terms or platform but I for one think it would be really cool for you guys to have a sit down Q & A session, a full on interview. I have nothing but respect for you, the hard work you've done and continue to do and how far you've been able to come in this "niche" sport and that would be one hell of a bone for him to throw your way.

MX is a close knit community and Vital (at least IMO) plays a huge role in it. Now that you work for Vital it makes sense to me for you guys to do a legit interview to hash out some things and clear the air. We WANT to hear his side of the story and get some clarification on what all went down. I think it could do a whole lot of good to tame down so many of the members here wanting to rake him over the coals when nobody has a clear understanding of what truly happened and what the future of outdoor MX holds.
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ML512 7/1/2022 5:48pm
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I have an interview scheduled with DC early next week in regards to MAVTV+, the switch to flow, etc...
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I already told you guys what DC said about the Mavtv deal. Basically, it was them or no coverage at all. It was a last minute deal. It has been atrocious but it's like blaming the pilot for the in flight meal. I spoke to him...he's gutted about it but there wasn't any other carrier wanting the job. The amount of hate he received has pushed him off Vital...which is our loss.
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Nathaniel129 7/1/2022 6:05pm
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plowboy wrote:
I already told you guys what DC said about the Mavtv deal. Basically, it was them or no coverage at all. It was a last minute...
I already told you guys what DC said about the Mavtv deal. Basically, it was them or no coverage at all. It was a last minute deal. It has been atrocious but it's like blaming the pilot for the in flight meal. I spoke to him...he's gutted about it but there wasn't any other carrier wanting the job. The amount of hate he received has pushed him off Vital...which is our loss.
Ok, fair enough....but AGAIN, how come he hasn't made those statements publicly? Yes there was/is a lot of hate, pretty simple way to negate a big portion of that.
DC has always seemed like a stand-up guy who has been a great communicator. For this MAVTV debacle to be the thing that ruins that reputation, when all it would have taken was more communication is a sad outcome.
I'm not saying his reputation is ruined, to be clear. I'm saying this could have been handled much much more professionally. We paid for that service. He promised it would be better.
So which is it? Was it the only and last resort, or was it the best option, as he basically said when it came out....?? BIG difference maker.
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Nathaniel129 7/1/2022 6:08pm
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When it comes to DC on this, it's like one of those math problems from 7th grade where the answer is "Not enough information."
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Nathaniel129 wrote:
Ok, fair enough....but AGAIN, how come he hasn't made those statements publicly? Yes there was/is a lot of hate, pretty simple way to negate a big...
Ok, fair enough....but AGAIN, how come he hasn't made those statements publicly? Yes there was/is a lot of hate, pretty simple way to negate a big portion of that.
DC has always seemed like a stand-up guy who has been a great communicator. For this MAVTV debacle to be the thing that ruins that reputation, when all it would have taken was more communication is a sad outcome.
I'm not saying his reputation is ruined, to be clear. I'm saying this could have been handled much much more professionally. We paid for that service. He promised it would be better.
So which is it? Was it the only and last resort, or was it the best option, as he basically said when it came out....?? BIG difference maker.
Definatly a big difference in "The Only Option" and " A Much Better Package Than Before"
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RandomUserName 7/1/2022 7:19pm
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ML512 wrote:
I have an interview scheduled with DC early next week in regards to MAVTV+, the switch to flow, etc...
Okay then please do the job differently than the Moto media in the past. Ask actual questions. Ask uncomfortable questions. Your forum is littered with thousands and thousands of examples of questions you could ask. Please don't just turn the microphone toward him and let him give a polished public relations speech. I know you will do your job and I've really been appreciative of the work that you have done and I just really hope it carries over to this very important topic.
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ML512 7/1/2022 7:24pm
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ML512 wrote:
I have an interview scheduled with DC early next week in regards to MAVTV+, the switch to flow, etc...
RandomUserName wrote:
Okay then please do the job differently than the Moto media in the past. Ask actual questions. Ask uncomfortable questions. Your forum is littered with thousands...
Okay then please do the job differently than the Moto media in the past. Ask actual questions. Ask uncomfortable questions. Your forum is littered with thousands and thousands of examples of questions you could ask. Please don't just turn the microphone toward him and let him give a polished public relations speech. I know you will do your job and I've really been appreciative of the work that you have done and I just really hope it carries over to this very important topic.
It’ll be fair, there will be some direct questions but this ain’t no witch hunt. I’m not burning the dude at the stake.
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plowboy wrote:
I already told you guys what DC said about the Mavtv deal. Basically, it was them or no coverage at all. It was a last minute...
I already told you guys what DC said about the Mavtv deal. Basically, it was them or no coverage at all. It was a last minute deal. It has been atrocious but it's like blaming the pilot for the in flight meal. I spoke to him...he's gutted about it but there wasn't any other carrier wanting the job. The amount of hate he received has pushed him off Vital...which is our loss.
Only option that would pay or last option are 2 different things. It’s possible, but find it hard to believe, peacock wouldn’t have broadcasted it for free
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DKmxFAN 7/1/2022 7:35pm
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ML512 wrote:
I have an interview scheduled with DC early next week in regards to MAVTV+, the switch to flow, etc...
Am I late to the party here? Will I be able to watch redbud with my Mav subscription?
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ML512 wrote:
I have an interview scheduled with DC early next week in regards to MAVTV+, the switch to flow, etc...
RandomUserName wrote:
Okay then please do the job differently than the Moto media in the past. Ask actual questions. Ask uncomfortable questions. Your forum is littered with thousands...
Okay then please do the job differently than the Moto media in the past. Ask actual questions. Ask uncomfortable questions. Your forum is littered with thousands and thousands of examples of questions you could ask. Please don't just turn the microphone toward him and let him give a polished public relations speech. I know you will do your job and I've really been appreciative of the work that you have done and I just really hope it carries over to this very important topic.
ML512 wrote:
It’ll be fair, there will be some direct questions but this ain’t no witch hunt. I’m not burning the dude at the stake.
Nobody is asking you to … guys just want someone to take a professional approach . Not a bro down or a witch hunt .
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plowboy wrote:
I already told you guys what DC said about the Mavtv deal. Basically, it was them or no coverage at all. It was a last minute...
I already told you guys what DC said about the Mavtv deal. Basically, it was them or no coverage at all. It was a last minute deal. It has been atrocious but it's like blaming the pilot for the in flight meal. I spoke to him...he's gutted about it but there wasn't any other carrier wanting the job. The amount of hate he received has pushed him off Vital...which is our loss.
They need to YouTube it for free. Hell LIV golf tour is on YouTube for free.
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jeffro503 7/1/2022 9:11pm
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Yep!!......I'm with all these frustrated dudes above me.

With the amount of people who follow and invest in this sport , compared to some little league baseball game with 1500 people attending , that gets 3 hour coverage on ESPN...........

Why in the living Sam Hill can't we moto dudes watch our damn races? Even paying extra for it!
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Side note : Why can't we get a sole purpose web based streaming service like MXGP?
Their entire package is flawless!

Follow that program would be my suggestion.
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Magoofan 7/1/2022 10:36pm
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Funny cover songs aside...lol. I don't know DC, he's probably a great guy. I think must of us were/are frustrated with how it was all handled. Especially the radio silence after the big buildup....which fell VERY short from what was touted. Then to add insult to injury, there was the lack of support from this "great service".

Safe to say, we're all willing to pay a fair price for the content....just don't fvck us or leave us hanging. If it actually goes to $30.00 a month next year, you might as well shut it all down now.

No matter what wingnut service comes next....I'm going to wait before signing up until the reviews are in.

No chance I'm going to sign up for Flo based on what we're seeing so far.



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Darksidemx3 7/2/2022 6:03am
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Darksidemx3 wrote:
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask...
Davey would absolutely come on my show. But I doubt he would talk about that. He would do that with his own platform. I will ask him, though
Nathaniel129 wrote:
Look Jamie, I respect what you do and all the BS you put up with from Pulp (I know it's in good fun)... BUT this is...
Look Jamie, I respect what you do and all the BS you put up with from Pulp (I know it's in good fun)...
BUT this is EXACTLY what we're talking about when it comes to journalism in this sport.
He won't talk about it? Of course he won't, because the precedent has been set for years that the truly hard questions won't be asked.
How dare the people who enable this sport to even be somewhat successful (weekend warriors, ticket-purchasers, website-vistors) want real answers about one of the biggest fails this sport has ever seen.
I don't know if DC was complicit in this failure, I don't know if he knew it was a risk and lied to us (I tend to think he didn't lie), and I definitely don't know where the train actually left the tracks.
We are left to speculate and wonder why. Which brings us back to your response....he won't answer.
I don't even expect him to come on here and subject himself to the irrational and all-knowing Vitards, that's a lose-lose for him.
We all just want answers, period. He SHOULD go on a podcast, or release a Weege-Style YouTube/Social Media video laying things out.
It's really unfortunate that probably won't happen. Hopefully Flo is a huge improvement...regardless, I think the PAYING customers who were promised a certain product at the beginning of the nationals deserve some real answers.
Thanks! Sounds like ML will have this info for us next week
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Darksidemx3 7/2/2022 6:05am
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ML512 wrote:
I have an interview scheduled with DC early next week in regards to MAVTV+, the switch to flow, etc...
DKmxFAN wrote:
Am I late to the party here? Will I be able to watch redbud with my Mav subscription?
The way I've read it, is you need FloTv app now. If you've paid for MavTv you're good this month. There's a thread about it
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GrapeApe 7/2/2022 6:08am
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"Probably the biggest story in moto ever"

Laughing

I'm sure there will be books written on the time the streaming aspect of the TV package moved to a different platform.
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RandomUserName 7/2/2022 6:23am
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ML512 wrote:
I have an interview scheduled with DC early next week in regards to MAVTV+, the switch to flow, etc...
RandomUserName wrote:
Okay then please do the job differently than the Moto media in the past. Ask actual questions. Ask uncomfortable questions. Your forum is littered with thousands...
Okay then please do the job differently than the Moto media in the past. Ask actual questions. Ask uncomfortable questions. Your forum is littered with thousands and thousands of examples of questions you could ask. Please don't just turn the microphone toward him and let him give a polished public relations speech. I know you will do your job and I've really been appreciative of the work that you have done and I just really hope it carries over to this very important topic.
ML512 wrote:
It’ll be fair, there will be some direct questions but this ain’t no witch hunt. I’m not burning the dude at the stake.
why Mav?
did they promise they could deliver?
when did you realize there were issues?
what did you do to remedy them?
The moto community was upset - why not engage them publicly and not just with PR?
With the early issues, how did Mav try to fix things?
When did you realize it was a lost cause?
how did hte FLO transition happen?
What's your relationship like with Mav now?
What are your early plans for next season?

then transition to WSX and what he's seeing happening there with WSX vs Outdoors.

"witch hunt" isn't necessary but it's long overdue for moto media to actually ADDRESS issues in our sport instead of fist bumping their moto buddies and just sweeping things under the rug.

in all fairness ML, I think you're really trying to move the needle a little with this. GuyB was famous for ignoring the moto news and then simply deleting anything that might upset his friends follow by admonishing the users for even asking hard questions. I have appreciated your rumormill content and the work I've seen you doing.
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bichwolf 7/2/2022 6:24am
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Nobody owes us good TV coverage. The numbers are linked directly to the management of the series.
The riders are faster than ever, the gear is arguably the best its ever looked, the bikes..6 major mfg.'s and another on the way. Time to look in the mirror.
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Nobody owes us good TV coverage. The numbers are linked directly to the management of the series. The riders are faster than ever, the gear is...
Nobody owes us good TV coverage. The numbers are linked directly to the management of the series.
The riders are faster than ever, the gear is arguably the best its ever looked, the bikes..6 major mfg.'s and another on the way. Time to look in the mirror.
Lol wot
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bichwolf 7/2/2022 6:26am
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And oh yeah, PLEASE ask RC about De Nation's! RupX said he would wench err.. Wrench for them
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