Arnhem Supercross 2016

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10/22/2016 12:54pm Edited Date/Time 10/22/2016 12:55pm
mxvice published overall results

1. Roman Febvre 1-2
2. Tim Gajser 2-7
3. Thomas Ramette 5-3

I'm just wondering how they counted the points for overall?

MXoN style 2-7 = 9, 5-3=8 so Ramette would have been better
MX points style 2-7=22+14=36, 5-3=16+20=36 In MX tiebreaker is better last race result so Ramette would have been better

What made Gajser better?

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10/22/2016 1:10pm
TOTAL RESULT SUPERCROSS


Competitor Total Points r 1 r 2
1 461 ROMAIN FEBVRE 45 25 20
2 243 TIM GASJER 29 20 9
3 1 THOMAS RAMETTE 27 11 16
4 120 CEDRIC SOUBEYRAS 26 16 10
5 47 MALCOLM J. STEWART 25 - 25
6 941 ANGELO PELLEGRINI 24 13 11
7 36 MATTEO BONINI 21 8 13
8 155 JACK BRUNELL 18 10 8
9 151 MATT BAYLISS 13 6 7
10 211 SULIVAN JAULIN 11 7 4
11 644 NICK KOUWENBERG 10 4 6
12 922 KEVIN FORS 10 5 5
13 53 COLE MARTINEZ 9 9 -
14 532 RICKY RENNER 6 3 3
15 48 JOAN CROS 4 2 2
16 817 JASON CLERMONT 1 - 1
17 952 LUDOVIC MACLER 1 1 -
18 810 KAI HAASSE - - -
19 41 JEFFREY MEURS - - -
20 15 KIM SCHAFFTER - - -
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Dobermann wrote:
[b]TOTAL RESULT SUPERCROSS[/b] Competitor Total Points r 1 r 2 1 461 ROMAIN FEBVRE 45 25 20 2 243 TIM GASJER 29 20 9 3 1...
TOTAL RESULT SUPERCROSS


Competitor Total Points r 1 r 2
1 461 ROMAIN FEBVRE 45 25 20
2 243 TIM GASJER 29 20 9
3 1 THOMAS RAMETTE 27 11 16
4 120 CEDRIC SOUBEYRAS 26 16 10
5 47 MALCOLM J. STEWART 25 - 25
6 941 ANGELO PELLEGRINI 24 13 11
7 36 MATTEO BONINI 21 8 13
8 155 JACK BRUNELL 18 10 8
9 151 MATT BAYLISS 13 6 7
10 211 SULIVAN JAULIN 11 7 4
11 644 NICK KOUWENBERG 10 4 6
12 922 KEVIN FORS 10 5 5
13 53 COLE MARTINEZ 9 9 -
14 532 RICKY RENNER 6 3 3
15 48 JOAN CROS 4 2 2
16 817 JASON CLERMONT 1 - 1
17 952 LUDOVIC MACLER 1 1 -
18 810 KAI HAASSE - - -
19 41 JEFFREY MEURS - - -
20 15 KIM SCHAFFTER - - -
OK, who would have guessed that kind of point system Smile

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10/22/2016 1:56pm
so mookie missed one race?
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10/22/2016 2:01pm Edited Date/Time 10/22/2016 2:01pm
Mookie was running 5th on first race when he went down.. finished race just outside points.. 2 points would have been enough to make Podium. Febvre won race before Gajser but superfinal other way around.
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Pellegrini doesn't give a damn. He passed febvre for the lead and blocked him many many times. Then he had some moments with gajser, he really added something to that last race.

Malcom Stewart such a nice guy talkin to everyone in the pits and took the time to go on a picture with everyone. He even set foot outside of the VIP/riders areo. Amazin for the fans.
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10/23/2016 4:06am
vschaik141 wrote:
[img]https://p.vitalmx.com/photos/forums/2016/10/22/156837/s1200_IMG_20161022_WA0011.jpg[/img]


mb60 wrote:
Seems strange the Mookie is wearing a jacket with Seven and Geico stamped on it ...........
mx836 wrote:
Looks like a Geico jacket with Alias stamped on it and a Seven hat to me unless I'm missing something.
Damn, who's the babe?
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10/23/2016 4:29am
Looks pretty low key if I'm honest ArenacrossUK has much more of a buz to it.

Glad Febvre got the win because Pellegrini takes not prisoners and could certainly ruin a riders season. Typical AX rider it's what you have to do to win. I think it's lethal.
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Rowlands wrote:
Looks pretty low key if I'm honest ArenacrossUK has much more of a buz to it. Glad Febvre got the win because Pellegrini takes not prisoners...
Looks pretty low key if I'm honest ArenacrossUK has much more of a buz to it.

Glad Febvre got the win because Pellegrini takes not prisoners and could certainly ruin a riders season. Typical AX rider it's what you have to do to win. I think it's lethal.
They had to compete with:

1. RB Straight Rhythm okt 22
2. Eurol Grand MX Weekend Lierop okt 22/23
2. Beachrace Vlissingen okt 23
4: Amsterdam Dance Event okt 19/20/21/22/23
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steed 2.0 wrote:
They had to compete with: 1. RB Straight Rhythm okt 22 2. Eurol Grand MX Weekend Lierop okt 22/23 2. Beachrace Vlissingen okt 23 4: Amsterdam...
They had to compete with:

1. RB Straight Rhythm okt 22
2. Eurol Grand MX Weekend Lierop okt 22/23
2. Beachrace Vlissingen okt 23
4: Amsterdam Dance Event okt 19/20/21/22/23
I don't know there circumstances but to me it's a poor date to choose in that case.

It's a pity because they had some good riders there it's just the crowd and atmosphere looked dead
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10/23/2016 10:06am
steed 2.0 wrote:
They had to compete with: 1. RB Straight Rhythm okt 22 2. Eurol Grand MX Weekend Lierop okt 22/23 2. Beachrace Vlissingen okt 23 4: Amsterdam...
They had to compete with:

1. RB Straight Rhythm okt 22
2. Eurol Grand MX Weekend Lierop okt 22/23
2. Beachrace Vlissingen okt 23
4: Amsterdam Dance Event okt 19/20/21/22/23
Rowlands wrote:
I don't know there circumstances but to me it's a poor date to choose in that case. It's a pity because they had some good riders...
I don't know there circumstances but to me it's a poor date to choose in that case.

It's a pity because they had some good riders there it's just the crowd and atmosphere looked dead
We just need to realize that Motocross and Supercross is a niche sport.

But that doesn't mean that it is impossible to fill stadiums from +20.000 seats. If I look that E-Sport (indeed playing video-games like Counter-Strike or League of Legends before a audience) can fill Staples Center, Veltins Arena, ... But also other niche sports, like Speedway and Freestyle Motocross competitions like Nigh of the Jumps can fill stadiums then we maybe need to ask ourself the question: 'Do those failed events got promoted widely enough?' Because filling stadiums with only motorcross-minded people is like dreaming about having a 'manege a trois' with Taylor Swift and Katy Perry, or like dreaming about F1 races on dirt ovals. You get mine point.

Promotion at the moment feels a bike like, the Pope preaching to the Christians, but nobody from outside the Christian community knows that the pope said a thing. Also Motorcross-people are a bit disgusting. They wanna real AMA Supercross tracks in big ass arena's, ridden by the big stars. But if Ryan Dungey, Romain Febvre, Marvin Musquin, Tim Gajser, Jeffrey Herlings were racing in the Veltins Arena most said: No thanks to expensive. Thats very understandable, but those events who are cheaper aren't that much more popular. Why? Because then I hear them say: Oh they only have Gajser, Febvre and Malcolm Stewart. (Yeah and all those other European SX Specialist) but people are just too spoiled I guess? Or maybe they are tired or their own sport? I dunno for sure what's the reason.

I hear that they wanna create a big competition with 25-30 Indoor races. But I don't think Europe is ready.
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10/23/2016 11:34am
I have been asking the same thing for years now.

1. One time race is not interested to fans, as its own. Believe me, if there would be 5, 6 different SX races in Europe, combined to some cup, there would be 6 times more media coverage for the same cup.

2. Fans react only to big names, but just for their favourite. Nobody in Holland cares about Gajser, or Febvre, there would be twice as much spectators, if they had Herlings. Or in Veltins arena, if Kenny would race in the middle of Germany. Europe is still hard patriotic, and fans don't like to switch countries. You won't see a French fan cheering for Nagl, or Herlings.

3. F1 had it's peak with Schumacher, MotoGP with Rossi, and MX with Cairolli and now Herlings. And before them, fans had their heroes. Big names. The agenda of media is, to create new heroes. That is the only thing fans can identify more easely then to complex bike characteristics, riding technique...

4. The fans are more and more lazy. They care only if the guys in yellow shirts scored. For every full football stadium, there are 100 times more fans behind TVs, and even more with club jerseys and other memorabilia. So if MX wants to spread fan base outside MX community, they need to simplify and cut this 2 day events. Cut race times by half, make more intense and simple format.
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10/23/2016 2:31pm
To Arena events need to be more of a "show " than actual racing that's what brings the crowds. You look at Arenacross uk and the stadiums are full, there is music, a great commentator, flashing lights , freestyle mx, DD flashing around doing little competitions etc. This seemed more like an MXGP event where they prioritise the racing, yes the racing needs to be intresting but that's not what brings the crowd. Let's be honest would you want to watch that racing live when you can get it just as good online. I hope this is a steep learning curve for them and I hope they can get the bus rolling and Euro SX will be a thing,

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