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I'm with the OP. I think a 2023 YZF450 would be amazing! Lighter than a 600 and quite a bit more powerful than a YZF-R3! Oh, wait. You guys are talking about a YZ450F. Never mind.....

Dude, MXA literally bitches about the graphics that come on the bikes. And always have, as far back as I can remember

I didn't complain about the rider triangle on my 19 until I blew a couple corners and needed an excuse.

Well we were super excited to see the new bikes when they showed up on the dealer floor...no internet then ,so you had no idea till you saw one in person...It was common for there to be great technological leaps from year to year...all new from the ground up and then all new again the following year. When you saw that all new bike, you fell out of love with your old one pretty quick. You basically couldn't give away your one year old bike...lots of people just parked it up the back of the shed and bought the new...

It's not just directed at this one bike. It's towards all new bikes and the bitching about them "needing" this and "needing" that. These bikes are already so damn good that it's just nit picking at this point. Go ride the damn thing and HAVE FUN. Every single bike is perfectly capable of being ridden at almost all of our limited potential just the way it is off the showroom floor, with the exception of suspension.

I'd love to hear from the older guys that rode in the 70's and 80's. Did y'all bitch about new bikes this much this much in the 70's and 80's? Wanting weight reductions, better rider triangles, better this, better that, new this, new that or were you all happy with what you had and content with even having a bike to ride in the first place? I hear my pops tell me all the time that we are spoilt/spoiled and complain too much with what we have today compared to what he grew up riding. I always heart that he...

i own a 2020 and love it

I want no rider triangle changes. Maybe a couple pounds off if it would be nice. Same goes for the 250f. That's about it. Maybe from the factory fix the mapping g so the power isn't so Jerky at initial throttle response.

I can see them changing the rider triangle. I have pretty short legs and i'm relatively short (175cm), and for me the current triangle feels fine but i can see how anyone with longer legs or just longer body is struggling with the short footpeg to seat distance.