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JOHN CHOATE 11/4/2009 8:16pm
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There was a thread not long ago that covered a lot of the same questions/responses. A neck brace is not a cure all and there have still been accidents that left riders paralyzed even though they had neck braces on. Recently, there have been several pros that decided not to continue using neck braces. All I know is that my son wears one and I do not.
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johansen 3/25/2011 3:16am
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This is a old thread but the topic is still current. Last weekend Stewart got hit by a bike to the back, he was in pain but the outcome was good as no back injury was reported. But the question still remain, why isn't there any pros using back protection? It won't protect you against compression injuries but it will help in scenarios where there is direct force to your back. As for an example going over the bars and landing on a stone. Thoughts?
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Flatliner 3/25/2011 4:24am
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johansen wrote:
How many of you use back protection while riding? I have noticed that in America it's not very common that you use back protection, is this...
How many of you use back protection while riding? I have noticed that in America it's not very common that you use back protection, is this right? It came to my mind when I read the hall of fame thread about Baileys crash yesterday "On the lap prior to the crash, David almost pulled in to put on his Chest/Back protector, but decided to continue without.".

When the pro's jerseys flap in the wind you can see that almost no one uses a back protection. It seems like they rely on nothing or just the chest protectors to protect their back?

And when the worst happens the first question that comes to mind to is if their were using a neckprotection or not, right? But how do you think a neck protection will help against a mid/lower back injury? For example Dungeys frontflip at Red Bud could have been disastrous if he would have landed on a rock without any back protection.

In Sweden the rules states that you must use back protection to be able to race, is there any rule like this in the states?
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I wear the RXR every time I get on a bike. Sweden and Europe are on top of the safety issue way more than here in...
I wear the RXR every time I get on a bike.


Sweden and Europe are on top of the safety issue way more than here in the states.


We are too cool (translation too stupid) to have our racers wear mandatory back protection.

The response "racing is dangerous" seems to be the catch all phrase on why nothing is being done in this area.


I am going to call Christian Craig's father today to find out what Christian was wearing during his most unfortunate accident.


BTW, GREAT thread! Thank you for starting it.


MickeyMeanie-Right on.
I also wear the rxr.
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DrSweden 3/25/2011 5:22am
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My understanding is that the point with all these gadgets (leatt, knee braces, and boots are exception since they work to halt damaging movement) are to spread and absorb impact. The more the merrier. One could discuss what type of armour to use, since some fear that plastic could shatter and become dangerous. But I feel if you have a body armour west and the plastic is sitting on a soft shell it should be good for many impacts. The beneath model is what I use (plus Leatt, Shoei, Asterisk Cell, and Boots with good ankle protection).

The big challenge for the future should be further testing to determinate if the Leatt really helps, and how come Alpinestars version say it does something complety different despite similar design (compression preventer)? Maybe some patent issue?

Also, what about lover spine protection? And more important is to do something about the helmets. Not much has happened there during the last century...


I'm using something like this, and feel pretty happy with it despite the odor (pretty hard to wash)! Smile

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ATKpilot99 3/25/2011 6:03am
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DrSweden wrote:
My understanding is that the point with all these gadgets (leatt, knee braces, and boots are exception since they work to halt damaging movement) are to...
My understanding is that the point with all these gadgets (leatt, knee braces, and boots are exception since they work to halt damaging movement) are to spread and absorb impact. The more the merrier. One could discuss what type of armour to use, since some fear that plastic could shatter and become dangerous. But I feel if you have a body armour west and the plastic is sitting on a soft shell it should be good for many impacts. The beneath model is what I use (plus Leatt, Shoei, Asterisk Cell, and Boots with good ankle protection).

The big challenge for the future should be further testing to determinate if the Leatt really helps, and how come Alpinestars version say it does something complety different despite similar design (compression preventer)? Maybe some patent issue?

Also, what about lover spine protection? And more important is to do something about the helmets. Not much has happened there during the last century...


I'm using something like this, and feel pretty happy with it despite the odor (pretty hard to wash)! Smile
Just hit it with warm soapy water, turn the hose on it and let it dry. Better than stinking. Smile
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DrSweden 3/25/2011 6:06am
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ATKpilot99 wrote:
Just hit it with warm soapy water, turn the hose on it and let it dry. Better than stinking. Smile
Good suggestion. Just because it needs a different approach in washing compare to all the other stuff, I tend to think, well I do that later! LOL!
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Shenzi 3/25/2011 6:06am
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Some of my buddies have started to run the Thorax Wave Pro this month (with the Ortema and Leatt neck-brace)




We designed the Armour Pro for off-road but I realize it would be too much, especially on the shoulders, for most US motocrosser. Top protection though (with ECE certification for the chest also, not only the back like most other), great one of the off-road guys.





For those who want light and well vented back protection, our new N-Frame is made of a "sandwich" of memory foam and absorption material.



Of course all our MTB Downhill and "gravity" products will do for MX since they're all also ECE certified for the purpose.

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Shenzi 3/25/2011 6:07am
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sorry for the Friday morning spam... could be info for others Smile
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The Rock 3/25/2011 8:02am
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Shenzi wrote:
sorry for the Friday morning spam... could be info for others Smile
No apology required.

Thanks for providing this information........IMO the lack of mandated spinal protection is an embarrassment here in the US.
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DrSweden 3/25/2011 8:39am
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The Rock wrote:
No apology required.

Thanks for providing this information........IMO the lack of mandated spinal protection is an embarrassment here in the US.
Not better in the old world is it?
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crusher773 3/25/2011 9:07am
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I just bought the new EVS F2. I have been looking for something for a while to work with the Astars neckbrace and this one works good. I too wanted to try and keep the back panel as well I rode with it and it pushed up in the brace a little so I modded it just slightly haven't rode with it yet but I think it will work great to be able to keep the back protection on. How many times do you endo and have the bike hit you in the back that little piece of plastic will do a lot when a peg or something is hitting you.

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