Water leak …. here we go again!

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We just had the water company show up this morning to hang a notice on our front door to tell us that we must have a water leak again ….. 😱 

At least with the new reading system that they had installed at every house they can now detect leaks like this.

While he was talking to my wife out by the water meter I shut off the water outside to see if the meter was still going and I quickly went and looked at the areas where there were no signs of leaks inside the house like the 4 before and it was nothing. 

When I went outside while they were checking the the meter and when I looked where the water leak had been outside and there was still a little low spot where they had dug and there was a little lake in it so thats where it is again. 

God I hope it is not under the concrete slab!

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I think moving would be cheaper at this point. 

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This is my wheelhouse, let us know how it develops! Damn I love finding leaks.

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Chance1216 wrote:

I think moving would be cheaper at this point. 

Last time was 4 or 5 years ago and I think it was $600 so if its the same as last time it will probably be $1000 today and we do have good homeowners insurance.

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This is my wheelhouse, let us know how it develops! Damn I love finding leaks.

Last time it was right where the sewer and water lines crossed and they put a bandaid slip on sharkbite on it so this might be where it is.

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Well, at least that answers the "now what?" portion of your retirement question. 😆

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lumpy790 wrote:
We just had the water company show up this morning to hang a notice on our front door to tell us that we must have a...

We just had the water company show up this morning to hang a notice on our front door to tell us that we must have a water leak again ….. 😱 

At least with the new reading system that they had installed at every house they can now detect leaks like this.

While he was talking to my wife out by the water meter I shut off the water outside to see if the meter was still going and I quickly went and looked at the areas where there were no signs of leaks inside the house like the 4 before and it was nothing. 

When I went outside while they were checking the the meter and when I looked where the water leak had been outside and there was still a little low spot where they had dug and there was a little lake in it so thats where it is again. 

God I hope it is not under the concrete slab!

We always start at the wet spot 👍😄  Hope it's right under the spot in the yard and it didn't follow the old trench from 40 feet away.  

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Chance1216 wrote:

I think moving would be cheaper at this point. 

lumpy790 wrote:
Last time was 4 or 5 years ago and I think it was $600 so if its the same as last time it will probably be...

Last time was 4 or 5 years ago and I think it was $600 so if its the same as last time it will probably be $1000 today and we do have good homeowners insurance.

I thought you had to repipe and open up walls last time. 

Shark Bites are a temp fix while you run to get the correct parts. Is your main copper, pex, PVC, poly, CPVC? 

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lumpy790 wrote:
We just had the water company show up this morning to hang a notice on our front door to tell us that we must have a...

We just had the water company show up this morning to hang a notice on our front door to tell us that we must have a water leak again ….. 😱 

At least with the new reading system that they had installed at every house they can now detect leaks like this.

While he was talking to my wife out by the water meter I shut off the water outside to see if the meter was still going and I quickly went and looked at the areas where there were no signs of leaks inside the house like the 4 before and it was nothing. 

When I went outside while they were checking the the meter and when I looked where the water leak had been outside and there was still a little low spot where they had dug and there was a little lake in it so thats where it is again. 

God I hope it is not under the concrete slab!

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We always start at the wet spot 👍😄  Hope it's right under the spot in the yard and it didn't follow the old trench from 40...

We always start at the wet spot 👍😄  Hope it's right under the spot in the yard and it didn't follow the old trench from 40 feet away.  

Chasing leaks on insulated lines or, in a ceiling are also fun. 

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Chance1216 wrote:

I think moving would be cheaper at this point. 

lumpy790 wrote:
Last time was 4 or 5 years ago and I think it was $600 so if its the same as last time it will probably be...

Last time was 4 or 5 years ago and I think it was $600 so if its the same as last time it will probably be $1000 today and we do have good homeowners insurance.

Chance1216 wrote:
I thought you had to repipe and open up walls last time. Shark Bites are a temp fix while you run to get the correct parts. Is...

I thought you had to repipe and open up walls last time. 

Shark Bites are a temp fix while you run to get the correct parts. Is your main copper, pex, PVC, poly, CPVC? 

This is outside between the meter and going into the foundation. 

We called the same plumbing company that had repaired it before and was a few inches away from the last one that was fixed.

He looked up the last one and and said the price was a little higher at $700 and the repair took him about 4 hours and he even started with the outside faucets to completely flush out any dirt that may had gotten into the line and he made sure that every faucet inside was flushed out.   

 

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Chance1216 wrote:

I think moving would be cheaper at this point. 

I was thinking the same thing.

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Heh....talk to me about water leak damage.   A year ago, a leak in the wall wrecked our wood floors and some cabinets in the kitchen.    Can't match the floor area that was damaged so insurance was on the hook for ALL of the wood floor throughout the house.     Instead of just repairing, we did a kitchen remodel.  New cabs...newer appliances, LVP (waterproof) floors.   We also did a full copper repipe to bypass the plumbing in the slab throughout the home.  A 30 year old home from an era of shitty copper pipes, it's not if...but when.   All said and done, into the 6 figures (but using what the insurance paid out to repair the damage too)  

...but now we've got the kitchen of our dreams.   

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Heh....talk to me about water leak damage.   A year ago, a leak in the wall wrecked our wood floors and some cabinets in the kitchen...

Heh....talk to me about water leak damage.   A year ago, a leak in the wall wrecked our wood floors and some cabinets in the kitchen.    Can't match the floor area that was damaged so insurance was on the hook for ALL of the wood floor throughout the house.     Instead of just repairing, we did a kitchen remodel.  New cabs...newer appliances, LVP (waterproof) floors.   We also did a full copper repipe to bypass the plumbing in the slab throughout the home.  A 30 year old home from an era of shitty copper pipes, it's not if...but when.   All said and done, into the 6 figures (but using what the insurance paid out to repair the damage too)  

...but now we've got the kitchen of our dreams.   

This sounds almost exactly like what happened to my brother inlaw a few years ago. By the time they were done their home got a huge upgrade. New floors and complete new kitchen. Insurance paid for everything.

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Heh....talk to me about water leak damage.   A year ago, a leak in the wall wrecked our wood floors and some cabinets in the kitchen...

Heh....talk to me about water leak damage.   A year ago, a leak in the wall wrecked our wood floors and some cabinets in the kitchen.    Can't match the floor area that was damaged so insurance was on the hook for ALL of the wood floor throughout the house.     Instead of just repairing, we did a kitchen remodel.  New cabs...newer appliances, LVP (waterproof) floors.   We also did a full copper repipe to bypass the plumbing in the slab throughout the home.  A 30 year old home from an era of shitty copper pipes, it's not if...but when.   All said and done, into the 6 figures (but using what the insurance paid out to repair the damage too)  

...but now we've got the kitchen of our dreams.   

This sounds almost exactly like what happened to my brother inlaw a few years ago. By the time they were done their home got a huge...

This sounds almost exactly like what happened to my brother inlaw a few years ago. By the time they were done their home got a huge upgrade. New floors and complete new kitchen. Insurance paid for everything.

Oh no, sorry...Insurance did not pay for everything in our case...not even close.     They paid to repair/replace the only the damaged cabinets and replace all the wood floors (where existing)   We took that money and used it towards a whole new kitchen,  the repipe and floors (including adding the "wood" floors in areas that were carpeted).  So basically the insurance pay out was about 16% of the total remodel.

It's something we intended to do down the road anyway.  The water leak just moved up the time table.

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The first time we didn’t replace the linoleum floor and put that $ into re piping the whole house instead. What they did do was leave a couple feet of the old after it came out of the concrete and that section had another leak a couple years later that took out the carpeting and linoleum and that time we did hard wood floors on both stories except the bedrooms that were left carpet.

We also have had 2 roofs replaced due to hail.

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The first time we didn’t replace the linoleum floor and put that $ into re piping the whole house instead. What they did do was leave...

The first time we didn’t replace the linoleum floor and put that $ into re piping the whole house instead. What they did do was leave a couple feet of the old after it came out of the concrete and that section had another leak a couple years later that took out the carpeting and linoleum and that time we did hard wood floors on both stories except the bedrooms that were left carpet.

We also have had 2 roofs replaced due to hail.

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I would be going out of my mine if I had to deal with all that.😡

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The first time we didn’t replace the linoleum floor and put that $ into re piping the whole house instead. What they did do was leave...

The first time we didn’t replace the linoleum floor and put that $ into re piping the whole house instead. What they did do was leave a couple feet of the old after it came out of the concrete and that section had another leak a couple years later that took out the carpeting and linoleum and that time we did hard wood floors on both stories except the bedrooms that were left carpet.

We also have had 2 roofs replaced due to hail.

IMG 6385 0.jpeg?VersionId=0GwEt85uy72dTgCg1OuDQvCDa8mV3U

 

I would be going out of my mine if I had to deal with all that.😡

The entire neighborhood was built with the same cheap crappy brand of pipe and they went bankrupt so everyone has had at least 1 or more leaks.

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lumpy790 wrote:
The first time we didn’t replace the linoleum floor and put that $ into re piping the whole house instead. What they did do was leave...

The first time we didn’t replace the linoleum floor and put that $ into re piping the whole house instead. What they did do was leave a couple feet of the old after it came out of the concrete and that section had another leak a couple years later that took out the carpeting and linoleum and that time we did hard wood floors on both stories except the bedrooms that were left carpet.

We also have had 2 roofs replaced due to hail.

IMG 6385 0.jpeg?VersionId=0GwEt85uy72dTgCg1OuDQvCDa8mV3U

 

I would be going out of my mine if I had to deal with all that.😡

lumpy790 wrote:
The entire neighborhood was built with the same cheap crappy brand of pipe and they went bankrupt so everyone has had at least 1 or more...

The entire neighborhood was built with the same cheap crappy brand of pipe and they went bankrupt so everyone has had at least 1 or more leaks.

Have all your leaks been underground under the slab or out in your yard?

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I would be going out of my mine if I had to deal with all that.😡

lumpy790 wrote:
The entire neighborhood was built with the same cheap crappy brand of pipe and they went bankrupt so everyone has had at least 1 or more...

The entire neighborhood was built with the same cheap crappy brand of pipe and they went bankrupt so everyone has had at least 1 or more leaks.

Have all your leaks been underground under the slab or out in your yard?

One was under slab last winter when I noticed the concrete was warm in a spot barefoot

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Oh goody gumdrops I woke up to a flooded front yard and water bubbling up right under the shut off valve going into the house. Guess it's time to get muddy yippee.  The pisser of it is like Lumpy I had someone else re-plumb the house 2 years ago, (a buddy who was a retiring plumber had his crew do it, for a deal of course so no warry) I already had to fix the end by the meter. Turns out they used a schedule 40 mip at the meter and it snapped where the threads are. Hoping this one is semi easy..... FUCK plumbing. Chance want to fly down for a working vacation ? Pizza and beers are on me. Ok off to get muddy 🙄  At least (Hopefully) I have the skill set to not pay a plumber 3 bucks a minute or whatever they charge now.  

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Oh goody gumdrops I woke up to a flooded front yard and water bubbling up right under the shut off valve going into the house. Guess...

Oh goody gumdrops I woke up to a flooded front yard and water bubbling up right under the shut off valve going into the house. Guess it's time to get muddy yippee.  The pisser of it is like Lumpy I had someone else re-plumb the house 2 years ago, (a buddy who was a retiring plumber had his crew do it, for a deal of course so no warry) I already had to fix the end by the meter. Turns out they used a schedule 40 mip at the meter and it snapped where the threads are. Hoping this one is semi easy..... FUCK plumbing. Chance want to fly down for a working vacation ? Pizza and beers are on me. Ok off to get muddy 🙄  At least (Hopefully) I have the skill set to not pay a plumber 3 bucks a minute or whatever they charge now.  

8.75 a minute we all drive trucks

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8.75 a minute we all drive trucks

Good you should F plumbing 😂. It was the same as the other end by the meter, cracked sched 40 MIP

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8.75 a minute we all drive trucks

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Good you should F plumbing 😂. It was the same as the other end by the meter, cracked sched 40 MIP

Good you should F plumbing 😂. It was the same as the other end by the meter, cracked sched 40 MIP

Sorry Sum. You’re good as long as it didn’t get the inside of your house wet. I guess I’m lucky. I bought my home new back in 86……….. still here and never had an issue with plumbing leaks other than the Hwt tank rusting and leaking inside. After that I replumbed it to the garage. Last time it rusted out it got the garage floor wet , no big deal. I lost count, but I think I’m on tank #4 which actually isn’t too bad. Could be 5 though. 😂

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8.75 a minute we all drive trucks

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Good you should F plumbing 😂. It was the same as the other end by the meter, cracked sched 40 MIP

Good you should F plumbing 😂. It was the same as the other end by the meter, cracked sched 40 MIP

Wild you guys are running sched 40 main service lines. How far is it to the house? I hate plastic mip/fip fittings. Usually brass and poly or exp PEX. I hardly ever come across pvc from the street to the house unless it’s a trailer park or manufactured home neighborhood.

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Wild you guys are running sched 40 main service lines. How far is it to the house? I hate plastic mip/fip fittings. Usually brass and poly...

Wild you guys are running sched 40 main service lines. How far is it to the house? I hate plastic mip/fip fittings. Usually brass and poly or exp PEX. I hardly ever come across pvc from the street to the house unless it’s a trailer park or manufactured home neighborhood.

Yeah seems like type L would be better but I guess that's old school now. My plumber and a couple other plumber customers said because the copper we get nowadays is shit and our water is more aggressive than in the past plastic is the way to go. I got it fixed, I don't think it's the ultimate way to do it but I only had 4 hours to dig it up, find it and fix it. I was in just make the shit work right fuckin now mode so I switched it to pvc right out of the house. The main line was at a weird ass angle so I used an extra 90 rather than have the pipes under stress. I let the riser sit where it seemed happy and went from there. The pvc repair looks kind of hoaky but..., 😄 there's no pvc copper union underground, and honestly there's plastic everywhere under the house. My house is plumbed like a big RV with little cheeseball plastic pex pipe lines running every where so what's a little pvc above ground. I used a threaded ball valve and a pvc union so I can re-do it easily if I have too.  Call it Baja beach house style, good from afar but far from good lol.  But I made the 2 pm deadline, we both took showers and made it to the grandkids thing on time so ...good enough. 😄 I'm going to back fill it with sand so there's less chance of our clay soil tweaking on the 90' .  I'll post some pics for critiquing, be honest I can handle it lol.   

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I wasn't super stoked on the pvc valve so I made it easy to change later if I ever need to.🤷‍♂️ I can swap it quick and easy with no sweating, cutting, or gluing.  4 hours and $39.26 total. 

 @ $8.75 a minute I saved about $2,100.00 plus parts, sweet !  🙂😆  

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I made the mistake of using PVC on an industrial application. I will never do that again. The problem is always at the transition.  But holy shit! the price for 1 1/2" copper pipe, fittings and valves?  I'm glad I'm aging out of this business. 

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I wasn't super stoked on the pvc valve so I made it easy to change later if I ever need to.🤷‍♂️ I can swap it quick...

I wasn't super stoked on the pvc valve so I made it easy to change later if I ever need to.🤷‍♂️ I can swap it quick and easy with no sweating, cutting, or gluing.  4 hours and $39.26 total. 

 @ $8.75 a minute I saved about $2,100.00 plus parts, sweet !  🙂😆  

Oh that’ll work out just fine. Looks good from my house! You gotta use/do what you have to work with sometimes. It isn’t always best case scenario.

I’m usually pipe locked and the customer wants the fastest, cheapest fix. 4 90s it is.

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I wasn't super stoked on the pvc valve so I made it easy to change later if I ever need to.🤷‍♂️ I can swap it quick...

I wasn't super stoked on the pvc valve so I made it easy to change later if I ever need to.🤷‍♂️ I can swap it quick and easy with no sweating, cutting, or gluing.  4 hours and $39.26 total. 

 @ $8.75 a minute I saved about $2,100.00 plus parts, sweet !  🙂😆  

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Oh that’ll work out just fine. Looks good from my house! You gotta use/do what you have to work with sometimes. It isn’t always best case...

Oh that’ll work out just fine. Looks good from my house! You gotta use/do what you have to work with sometimes. It isn’t always best case scenario.

I’m usually pipe locked and the customer wants the fastest, cheapest fix. 4 90s it is.

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Have you had any luck using the slip couplings/unions? I have never used one. Relying on O rings on a buried pipe makes me nervous.

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