Now 2 chinese bikes coming to mxgp

DonM wrote:

So we're excited about Chinese knock-off bikes?....isn't the JHL just an exact KTM copy? 

C.Worthy wrote:

If they can produce a high quality knock off for a fraction of the price who cares? Give 'em 5 years and I'm sure they'll improve...

If they can produce a high quality knock off for a fraction of the price who cares? Give 'em 5 years and I'm sure they'll improve quality and durability. And if they can do that for cheaper than the big mfgs, the consumer is the ultimate winner here and forces the big foreign manufactures to be more competitive w/ price, technology, and quality. Don't forget, Japan used to be the Chinese equivalent of production quality for all goods, now look at them.

Pop Shmoke wrote:

It would be cool if these guys made some 2 strokes too. If the 4 strokes are already pretty cheap then a 2 stroke would be...

It would be cool if these guys made some 2 strokes too. If the 4 strokes are already pretty cheap then a 2 stroke would be even cheaper than that.

Doing some rough back of the napkin math, the kove 450 is 28.5% cheaper than the yz450f. If a kove 250 2 stroke was 28.5% cheaper than a yz250 then it would cost $5791 new. Compared to $8100 for the yz250. Thats a veryyyy competitive price and also once they go on the used market theyre even cheaper and all of a sudden entry level mx is affordable again. That would be awesome….. esp if ama added the equal displacement rule. 

Cliffy615 wrote:

Kove have been gaining traction here in the UK with their 450 rally model it has really good reports for reliability, affordability and rideability, There is a...

Kove have been gaining traction here in the UK with their 450 rally model it has really good reports for reliability, affordability and rideability, 

There is a 24 hour enduro race in the UK called Dawn to dusk and the winner for the last 2 years has been on a Kove rally 450 

It’s a good thing that cheaper brand are coming in to challenge the big 5, it’s insane that a new enduro bike is £11,000 ($15,000) the Jap and Austrian brands will have to be more competitive as these brands continue to improve and prove themselves in the space 

Cliffy615 wrote:

Kove have been gaining traction here in the UK with their 450 rally model it has really good reports for reliability, affordability and rideability, There is a...

Kove have been gaining traction here in the UK with their 450 rally model it has really good reports for reliability, affordability and rideability, 

There is a 24 hour enduro race in the UK called Dawn to dusk and the winner for the last 2 years has been on a Kove rally 450 

It’s a good thing that cheaper brand are coming in to challenge the big 5, it’s insane that a new enduro bike is £11,000 ($15,000) the Jap and Austrian brands will have to be more competitive as these brands continue to improve and prove themselves in the space 

Phillip_Lamb wrote:

found a dirtbikemag review of the 250 and they say its pretty solid, albiet slight under powered vs current 250f's. but with msrp at 6999 vs...

found a dirtbikemag review of the 250 and they say its pretty solid, albiet slight under powered vs current 250f's. but with msrp at 6999 vs 8050 for the rmz...thats a huge gap for riders starting out or not racing. 

hot take away: china could save motocross in america. Everyone thinks the ticket is bigger tv or purse at the pro level. but fail to realize that everyone loves football and nascar, not because theyre easy to watch, but they can all relate to high school games and driving their own car. More asses in seats grows the sport provided its a dirt bike seat

FWYT wrote:

Semi related but - Didn't a Chinese brand enter a bike in World Superbike or something?

King_George_II wrote:

Zx moto has been winning world supersport (the old 600 class) races this year.