How does this thing in Iran end?

gantry25 wrote:

All of things you have stated have already been considered by the US military. With the US military recognizing what you have brought up as well...

All of things you have stated have already been considered by the US military. With the US military recognizing what you have brought up as well as things you have not, the military would make the necessary changes to tactics to nullify any perceived advantage the Iranians nay have. If the American military needed to wage a ground campaign they would absolutely crush the Iranians. The Americans have complete and unopposed control of the air. Try to move troops or armor without any air support. Like I said, they will be crushed. 

You seem to be hoping for a quagmire for the US troops. Do you in fact support the current murderous regime in Iran, Sure seems like it.

Regardless, there will be no ground campaign, it will not be necessary. The Iranian regime will collapse upon itself.  

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hope for a quagmire for US troops, I hope the US walks away from this, and lets the Iranian people decide their own fate...

I don't hope for a quagmire for US troops, I hope the US walks away from this, and lets the Iranian people decide their own fate, without outside interference.

gantry25 wrote:

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they...

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they want freedom and removal of the current regime. Unfortunately, the last time the citizens rose up, unsupported by outside influence, the Iranian regime murdered an estimated 30 to 40 thousand of it's own citizens.  The Iranian citizens want this opportunity for freedom and prosperity just as the Venezulan citizens wanted the help. Damn shame the rest of the world will not join and support President Trump in trying to make the world a better place for people. Hard to understand how people like you will not support freedom for the Iranian people and the end of the Iranian regime. The biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.

That is exactly what you are doing with your ridiculous position, supporting the continuing terrorist regime in Iran. It appears you would have stood by and allowed or even supported Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb. Do you hate the US and lsrael that much that you would have been OK with Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb? 

Alex814 wrote:

Removing Iran's legitimacy behind mass-casualty threats against the US and it's allies. Not just short-term for the next administration to deal with, but long-term. To be...

Removing Iran's legitimacy behind mass-casualty threats against the US and it's allies. Not just short-term for the next administration to deal with, but long-term. To be clear though, the expectation is not utopia in the Middle East. 

LoudLove wrote:

Thanks for the input. If you would, please define “mass casualty” so we understand the scope of the threat. 

gantry25 wrote:

Seriously? You don't understand the scope of the threat? They have been chanting death to America and Israel for almost 50 years. They have also made...

Seriously? You don't understand the scope of the threat? They have been chanting death to America and Israel for almost 50 years. They have also made it very clear their want to manufacture nuclear weapons with which they can threaten the world. It's not too difficult to put that one together. I don't know how many people die due to the explosion of a 15 kiloton nuclear device. What was the death toll in Hiroshima? Is that mass casualty enough for you? Maybe we should not have bombed them, let them continue on their merry path until they also have access to ICBM's. 

They needed to be stopped, President Trump was the only person man enough to do something about it until it was too late. Much like North Korea.

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hope for a quagmire for US troops, I hope the US walks away from this, and lets the Iranian people decide their own fate...

I don't hope for a quagmire for US troops, I hope the US walks away from this, and lets the Iranian people decide their own fate, without outside interference.

gantry25 wrote:

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they...

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they want freedom and removal of the current regime. Unfortunately, the last time the citizens rose up, unsupported by outside influence, the Iranian regime murdered an estimated 30 to 40 thousand of it's own citizens.  The Iranian citizens want this opportunity for freedom and prosperity just as the Venezulan citizens wanted the help. Damn shame the rest of the world will not join and support President Trump in trying to make the world a better place for people. Hard to understand how people like you will not support freedom for the Iranian people and the end of the Iranian regime. The biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.

That is exactly what you are doing with your ridiculous position, supporting the continuing terrorist regime in Iran. It appears you would have stood by and allowed or even supported Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb. Do you hate the US and lsrael that much that you would have been OK with Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb? 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

L2S hates the UNITED STATES and actually views us as the terrorists. 💯

Chance1216 wrote:

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law...

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law for this type of shit. 

I held out as long as I could. 

It makes me laugh, we’re bringing Iran to its knees. 
This’ll be over in a couple weeks. 
Gas prices are going to drop. 

Gas is high AF. 
Deployments have been extended. 
The Navy “may or, may not” be providing security to oil tankers. 

Meh…. Enough politics for me for the day. Gonna watch the world burn while fishing. Have a good week… 

 

El_Rayo wrote:

Hopefully you caught something. Been fishing in Lake Michigan twice this year already and haven’t caught crap. 


Then again it’s my first time fishing too…

gantry25 wrote:

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they...

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they want freedom and removal of the current regime. Unfortunately, the last time the citizens rose up, unsupported by outside influence, the Iranian regime murdered an estimated 30 to 40 thousand of it's own citizens.  The Iranian citizens want this opportunity for freedom and prosperity just as the Venezulan citizens wanted the help. Damn shame the rest of the world will not join and support President Trump in trying to make the world a better place for people. Hard to understand how people like you will not support freedom for the Iranian people and the end of the Iranian regime. The biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.

That is exactly what you are doing with your ridiculous position, supporting the continuing terrorist regime in Iran. It appears you would have stood by and allowed or even supported Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb. Do you hate the US and lsrael that much that you would have been OK with Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb? 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

L2S hates the UNITED STATES and actually views us as the terrorists. 💯

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in...

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in foreign lands to achieve political goals...

Kenny Banyan wrote:

L2S hates the UNITED STATES and actually views us as the terrorists. 💯

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in...

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in foreign lands to achieve political goals...

Chance1216 wrote:

What do you like about the US? Don’t say. MX… 😂 

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in...

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in foreign lands to achieve political goals...

Chance1216 wrote:

What do you like about the US? Don’t say. MX… 😂 

Last2Stroke wrote:

SX!

gantry25 wrote:

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they...

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they want freedom and removal of the current regime. Unfortunately, the last time the citizens rose up, unsupported by outside influence, the Iranian regime murdered an estimated 30 to 40 thousand of it's own citizens.  The Iranian citizens want this opportunity for freedom and prosperity just as the Venezulan citizens wanted the help. Damn shame the rest of the world will not join and support President Trump in trying to make the world a better place for people. Hard to understand how people like you will not support freedom for the Iranian people and the end of the Iranian regime. The biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.

That is exactly what you are doing with your ridiculous position, supporting the continuing terrorist regime in Iran. It appears you would have stood by and allowed or even supported Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb. Do you hate the US and lsrael that much that you would have been OK with Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb? 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

L2S hates the UNITED STATES and actually views us as the terrorists. 💯

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in...

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in foreign lands to achieve political goals...

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in...

I don't hate the UNITED STATES, but I find it hypocritical for the UNITED STATES to call people terrorists, when the UNITED STATED kills civilians in foreign lands to achieve political goals...

Chance1216 wrote:

What do you like about the US? Don’t say. MX… 😂 

Last2Stroke wrote:

SX!

Chance1216 wrote:

What do you like about the US? Don’t say. MX… 😂 

Last2Stroke wrote:

SX!

Chance1216 wrote:

Got me there… 

Last2Stroke wrote:

SX!

Chance1216 wrote:

Got me there… 

Last2Stroke wrote:

I have mixed feeling how the US shares it's technology...

https://gulfnews.com/world/mena/irans-revolutionary-guards-say-seized-unmanned-us-submarine-in-hormuz-1.500667507

Chance1216 wrote:

Got me there… 

Last2Stroke wrote:

I have mixed feeling how the US shares it's technology...

https://gulfnews.com/world/mena/irans-revolutionary-guards-say-seized-unmanned-us-submarine-in-hormuz-1.500667507

Chance1216 wrote:

It would be a bit more believable with a pic of the sub. One thing that stood out is underlined. Seems your source is pushing a bias...

It would be a bit more believable with a pic of the sub. 

One thing that stood out is underlined. Seems your source is pushing a bias just like “ every other” news outlet . 

Last2Stroke wrote:

I have mixed feeling how the US shares it's technology...

https://gulfnews.com/world/mena/irans-revolutionary-guards-say-seized-unmanned-us-submarine-in-hormuz-1.500667507

Chance1216 wrote:

It would be a bit more believable with a pic of the sub. One thing that stood out is underlined. Seems your source is pushing a bias...

It would be a bit more believable with a pic of the sub. 

One thing that stood out is underlined. Seems your source is pushing a bias just like “ every other” news outlet . 

Last2Stroke wrote:

Yes, a picture would make it more believable, but even pictures can be faked, maybe it's true, maybe it's not, both sides lie.The "Gulf News" is...

Yes, a picture would make it more believable, but even pictures can be faked, maybe it's true, maybe it's not, both sides lie.

The "Gulf News" is a UAE media outlet, they are quoting a statement from the IRG, the use of the word "terrorist" was the IRGs not the "Gulf News". It would have been bias if the Gulf News journalist used the word "terrorist".

The reason I posted it is US media is not covering it, like the damage done to US bases early in the war, many things are not covered in US media due to bias or censorship.

Edit:

Reuters has posted a picture, and Anduril has confirmed they lost a vehicle...

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/iran-says-it-captured-us-submarine-drone-strait-hormuz-2026-09-08/

Alex814 wrote:

Removing Iran's legitimacy behind mass-casualty threats against the US and it's allies. Not just short-term for the next administration to deal with, but long-term. To be...

Removing Iran's legitimacy behind mass-casualty threats against the US and it's allies. Not just short-term for the next administration to deal with, but long-term. To be clear though, the expectation is not utopia in the Middle East. 

LoudLove wrote:

Thanks for the input. If you would, please define “mass casualty” so we understand the scope of the threat. 

Alex814 wrote:

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.To me, having the ability...

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.

To me, having the ability to drop those long range missiles on "The West" as they call it, is unacceptable. Compound this with using their missile inventory to shield the nuclear program's development and I am good with the preemptive action. 

Has it gone perfectly or exactly as Trump hoped? No. Is it a disaster and a lost war for the US? Not even close.

LoudLove wrote:

Thanks for the input. If you would, please define “mass casualty” so we understand the scope of the threat. 

Alex814 wrote:

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.To me, having the ability...

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.

To me, having the ability to drop those long range missiles on "The West" as they call it, is unacceptable. Compound this with using their missile inventory to shield the nuclear program's development and I am good with the preemptive action. 

Has it gone perfectly or exactly as Trump hoped? No. Is it a disaster and a lost war for the US? Not even close.

ns503 wrote:

I dunno - losing your Middle East bases has to be some kind of loss, no?

Alex814 wrote:

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.To me, having the ability...

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.

To me, having the ability to drop those long range missiles on "The West" as they call it, is unacceptable. Compound this with using their missile inventory to shield the nuclear program's development and I am good with the preemptive action. 

Has it gone perfectly or exactly as Trump hoped? No. Is it a disaster and a lost war for the US? Not even close.

ns503 wrote:

I dunno - losing your Middle East bases has to be some kind of loss, no?

LoudLove wrote:

The definition of “mass” is subjective.  A shooting the leaves 15 dead could be considered “mass casualty”. Iran has funded terrorist acts that resulted in 100+...

The definition of “mass” is subjective.  A shooting the leaves 15 dead could be considered “mass casualty”. Iran has funded terrorist acts that resulted in 100+ fatalities. Or are we referring exclusively to single acts that result in thousands dead and injured?

JerryVan wrote:

Please Mr Trump, the winning is too much for me. 

Please Mr Trump, the winning is too much for me. 

Alex814 wrote:

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.To me, having the ability...

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.

To me, having the ability to drop those long range missiles on "The West" as they call it, is unacceptable. Compound this with using their missile inventory to shield the nuclear program's development and I am good with the preemptive action. 

Has it gone perfectly or exactly as Trump hoped? No. Is it a disaster and a lost war for the US? Not even close.

ns503 wrote:

I dunno - losing your Middle East bases has to be some kind of loss, no?

LoudLove wrote:

The definition of “mass” is subjective.  A shooting the leaves 15 dead could be considered “mass casualty”. Iran has funded terrorist acts that resulted in 100+...

The definition of “mass” is subjective.  A shooting the leaves 15 dead could be considered “mass casualty”. Iran has funded terrorist acts that resulted in 100+ fatalities. Or are we referring exclusively to single acts that result in thousands dead and injured?

gantry25 wrote:

One of two things? You forgot the other option (among many) The Iranian regime collapse's due to the military and economic onslaught they are currently experiencing...

One of two things? You forgot the other option (among many) The Iranian regime collapse's due to the military and economic onslaught they are currently experiencing due to President Trump and Secretary Bessent. Iran has no money, 6 months this thing is over.

Last2Stroke wrote:

Such confidence, I'm saving this comment...

Such confidence, I'm saving this comment...

El_Rayo wrote:

Doesn’t matter. We will come back in 6 months and he’ll be parroting some excuse on why The President is still winning and has a master...

Doesn’t matter. We will come back in 6 months and he’ll be parroting some excuse on why The President is still winning and has a master plan we don’t know about….

Last2Stroke wrote:

Such confidence, I'm saving this comment...

Such confidence, I'm saving this comment...

El_Rayo wrote:

Doesn’t matter. We will come back in 6 months and he’ll be parroting some excuse on why The President is still winning and has a master...

Doesn’t matter. We will come back in 6 months and he’ll be parroting some excuse on why The President is still winning and has a master plan we don’t know about….

gantry25 wrote:

In the unlikely event that the collapse of Iran does not happen, I will not. I will suggest that President Trump made a huge blunder and...

In the unlikely event that the collapse of Iran does not happen, I will not. I will suggest that President Trump made a huge blunder and that this was not the plan. I will also admit that I was wrong.

Last2Stroke wrote:

I don't hope for a quagmire for US troops, I hope the US walks away from this, and lets the Iranian people decide their own fate...

I don't hope for a quagmire for US troops, I hope the US walks away from this, and lets the Iranian people decide their own fate, without outside interference.

gantry25 wrote:

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they...

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they want freedom and removal of the current regime. Unfortunately, the last time the citizens rose up, unsupported by outside influence, the Iranian regime murdered an estimated 30 to 40 thousand of it's own citizens.  The Iranian citizens want this opportunity for freedom and prosperity just as the Venezulan citizens wanted the help. Damn shame the rest of the world will not join and support President Trump in trying to make the world a better place for people. Hard to understand how people like you will not support freedom for the Iranian people and the end of the Iranian regime. The biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.

That is exactly what you are doing with your ridiculous position, supporting the continuing terrorist regime in Iran. It appears you would have stood by and allowed or even supported Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb. Do you hate the US and lsrael that much that you would have been OK with Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb? 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

L2S hates the UNITED STATES and actually views us as the terrorists. 💯

El_Rayo wrote:

Doesn’t matter. We will come back in 6 months and he’ll be parroting some excuse on why The President is still winning and has a master...

Doesn’t matter. We will come back in 6 months and he’ll be parroting some excuse on why The President is still winning and has a master plan we don’t know about….

gantry25 wrote:

In the unlikely event that the collapse of Iran does not happen, I will not. I will suggest that President Trump made a huge blunder and...

In the unlikely event that the collapse of Iran does not happen, I will not. I will suggest that President Trump made a huge blunder and that this was not the plan. I will also admit that I was wrong.

soggy wrote:

How long is your runway?  This two week war is going on 9 months…

gantry25 wrote:

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they...

Why do you believe that the Iranian citizens can rise up and remove the current murderous regime? The citizens in Iran have made it clear they want freedom and removal of the current regime. Unfortunately, the last time the citizens rose up, unsupported by outside influence, the Iranian regime murdered an estimated 30 to 40 thousand of it's own citizens.  The Iranian citizens want this opportunity for freedom and prosperity just as the Venezulan citizens wanted the help. Damn shame the rest of the world will not join and support President Trump in trying to make the world a better place for people. Hard to understand how people like you will not support freedom for the Iranian people and the end of the Iranian regime. The biggest supporter of terrorism in the world.

That is exactly what you are doing with your ridiculous position, supporting the continuing terrorist regime in Iran. It appears you would have stood by and allowed or even supported Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb. Do you hate the US and lsrael that much that you would have been OK with Iran obtaining a nuclear bomb? 

Kenny Banyan wrote:

L2S hates the UNITED STATES and actually views us as the terrorists. 💯

byke wrote:

[img]https://y.getyarn.io/8eaad4bb-cbb2-47a9-bed0-e1cdeadc79bd_text.gif[/img]

Chance1216 wrote:

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law...

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law for this type of shit. 

I held out as long as I could. 

It makes me laugh, we’re bringing Iran to its knees. 
This’ll be over in a couple weeks. 
Gas prices are going to drop. 

Gas is high AF. 
Deployments have been extended. 
The Navy “may or, may not” be providing security to oil tankers. 

Meh…. Enough politics for me for the day. Gonna watch the world burn while fishing. Have a good week… 

 

Chance1216 wrote:

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law...

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law for this type of shit. 

I held out as long as I could. 

It makes me laugh, we’re bringing Iran to its knees. 
This’ll be over in a couple weeks. 
Gas prices are going to drop. 

Gas is high AF. 
Deployments have been extended. 
The Navy “may or, may not” be providing security to oil tankers. 

Meh…. Enough politics for me for the day. Gonna watch the world burn while fishing. Have a good week… 

 

Chance1216 wrote:

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law...

I’ll admit. I have buyers remorse when it comes down to my vote. The other option wasn’t an option.  I wish there was a lemon law for this type of shit. 

I held out as long as I could. 

It makes me laugh, we’re bringing Iran to its knees. 
This’ll be over in a couple weeks. 
Gas prices are going to drop. 

Gas is high AF. 
Deployments have been extended. 
The Navy “may or, may not” be providing security to oil tankers. 

Meh…. Enough politics for me for the day. Gonna watch the world burn while fishing. Have a good week… 

 

LoudLove wrote:

Thanks for the input. If you would, please define “mass casualty” so we understand the scope of the threat. 

Alex814 wrote:

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.To me, having the ability...

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.

To me, having the ability to drop those long range missiles on "The West" as they call it, is unacceptable. Compound this with using their missile inventory to shield the nuclear program's development and I am good with the preemptive action. 

Has it gone perfectly or exactly as Trump hoped? No. Is it a disaster and a lost war for the US? Not even close.

ns503 wrote:

I dunno - losing your Middle East bases has to be some kind of loss, no?

Alex814 wrote:

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.To me, having the ability...

I don't have an exact number, but I wouldn't limit it to just nukes, based on them making their threats very clear.

To me, having the ability to drop those long range missiles on "The West" as they call it, is unacceptable. Compound this with using their missile inventory to shield the nuclear program's development and I am good with the preemptive action. 

Has it gone perfectly or exactly as Trump hoped? No. Is it a disaster and a lost war for the US? Not even close.

ns503 wrote:

I dunno - losing your Middle East bases has to be some kind of loss, no?

Alex814 wrote:

Please, tell me exactly which bases have been "lost".  And run it through AI next time before making us all dumber.