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If his plan wasn’t ever published, you can’t know his plan, so how do you know it wasn’t used?
Who do you rely on for truth? Or do you only think it’s truth when you agree with it?
Well, it obviously wasn't President Trump's plan, nothing President Trump has done militarily has ended in such a spectacular failure. Biden and the democrats though..... nothing but disaster. There's your proof.
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Nonsense. It is obviously in America's and the world's best interest to not see a nuclear armed Iran. The worlds primary sponsor of Islamic terrorism, what a gift the Trump administration is giving to the world. You are welcome!
Well now that you say that, it surely couldn't have been Trumps plan. The negotiations that were heavily in Iran's favor in the earlier agreement share no resemblance to the shit show in Afghanistan
How do you rate the war in Iran , a massive win, or the biggest win ever?
Trump has been the only President to win the same war multiple times over and over , so I guess You have a point.
Would you say that winning a war normally results in the side that lost having MORE power and influence on the world? If oil prices are still high, and ship traffic is not flowing , and Iran still has all the nuclear material that they had when the war started. What would it look like it was not a success or if the US lost?
I'm not saying that I think the US lost, just that nobody has won.
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Killing the previous supreme leader was not a good move, if the goal was to not see a nuclear armed Iran, he did issue a fatwa against nuclear weapons!
Huh
So, there’s no Islamic doctrine that allows for whatever is necessary to win against the infidels?
Oh. Ok. Sure.
Is bombing schools, hospitals, weddings and rescue workers necessary for the US and Israel to win?
I may or may not have mentioned a few pages back that Iran/IRCG is the proxy (snake body)) of City of London / British Imperial System (head of snake). Trump is cutting off the head of the snake / money supply. That is the real war. Don’t take my word for it, listen to Scott Bessent:
https://youtu.be/3Guqxu2FKNQ
Casualties of war, if it is true. Does Iran need to hide it's weapons in schools, hospitals, and at weddings? Sounds like you are in full support of the terrorist regime in Iran, I understand you can't post anything against the Muslims without fear of being arrested in your country. Not to worry for you though, you are all in with your hatred of Israel and America. Have a glorious day!
I’m half inclined to start a thread, Reasons I Hate America for all the usual people who can’t seem to make enough excuses for countries our military has gotten involved with.
The only only reason I haven’t yet, BUUUut BUUT bUt TRUMP……. 😭
When fighting a superior foe an individual or nation will use any means available. Including storage of weapons and personnel in civilian facilities.
Most assume the deaths of 100 schoolchildren was an accident. However, the implication above is that the US would deliberately kill scores of civilians. Or maybe I’m not interpreting it correctly.
And you do of course believe what the Iranians say. How gullible can one person be.
The irony of this post is all-time.
It's only ironic to those people with zero common sense or ability to see a situation for what it clearly is. I would suggest you fall into that category. Have a nice day!
And a stock market at record highs!
When I get conflicting info from sources that are known to twist and distort reality. Or that have something to gain from not telling the truth, I have to look at what is provable , what is most likely true if not totally provable. or even assume both are telling the truth, or both are lying.
All it takes is 10 minutes of watching network news at night or a political candidates interview to see that most are only telling the parts of the story that line up with whatever narrative they want to put out there. In this world of fact checking and info being so easily available, sometimes both sides of the story are the truth. Just not the complete story. I would hope that for the most part outright lies on the news are not as common as some seem to think. In my experience its mostly half truths and missing info OR opinion shows that people do not realize are opinions of what happened and not just what happened.
I've seen the tactics of half truths and divisive BS from the majority of people in politics , its not just one party that is guilty. So You really need to approach every statement made with some skepticism. Especially the ones You want to believe , since those are the easiest for politicians to get away with lying about.
Liking or disliking what the truth is really has no impact on what is true and false. That would be Your opinion of the truth, but Your opinion of what is the truth shouldn't matter when strong enough proof is present to support the truth. Or it really shouldn't . Think about how that would impact your beliefs of some of the horrible things that have happened. If You took the same approach to judging Your own beliefs the way You judge others.
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Sounds like you’re describing critical thinking to me. Not a very good weapon of choice when you’re fighting for your side or most likely against their side
If one wants to believe that the degradation of our societies ability to employ critical thinking tactics is a huge part of the reason we are where we are, I'd say there is definitely a truth to that.
Somewhere along the lines (Reagan) people started putting politicians up on a pedestal and buying the kool aid the government was selling without reading the ingredient label. Your side this, my side that... it's all bullshit. BUT, that internal conflict amongst the citizens of this great country is how they have gotten to the point where they can piss on you and say it's raining.
Reagan? You'll need to go back a bit further than that. Try Franklin D Roosevelt.
OK guys, here is the overly simplistic truth of what president Trump is trying to achieve.
Do you remember the first out of country trip that Trump made when he got back in the White House? This was the start of what we are seeing now. The goal of those meetings was to get the middle east nations to not back Iran when the fighting started. This has been successful to this point. The objective is to destroy Iran and force regime change. End that tyranical, terror sponsoring nation forever. It is in the worlds best interest.
The next step will be getting the rest of the middle east nations to sign onto the Abraham accords that president Trump successfully negotiated during his first term. Recognizing Israel by the other middle east nations is the only path for real peace. Israel destroying Hamas and getting that terrorist organization out of Gaza was key.
The next question is when does the world recognize a Palestinian state? Only when all terrorist have been removed and they have established a stable government that does not have terror ties.
For all of you that hate Israel and the Jews, too bad.
Like I said, this is the simple explanation and doesn't cover every conceivable thing that can occur before the above scenario plays out.
But he cozies up to those adversaries who are bigly supporting Iran. Vlad Putin and Kim Un.
Ya, that's some epic foreign relationship and policy there.
Yep, that have a word for that it's called diplomacy.
“Diplomacy” is a word that does not exist in the world of dictators. Anyone who thinks Putin fears the US or Un “likes” them is delusional. The respect Trumps gives tyrants while chastising our allies is not “4D chess”. It’s an inherent misunderstanding of global politics.
Capitulation masked as diplomacy.
You know this as fact? You seem very sure of yourself.
President Trump is navigating global politics like he should. It's unfortunate so many of our allies refuse to pay their fair share for their own national defense. Their defense is not our responsibility..
Working with WW2 era trade policies is selling America short. President Trump is finally addressing it.
Chastising democratic "allies" that our values are supposed to be fairly closely aligned with for denying free speech to it's citizens? This is exactly what this administration should be doing.
Get use to it we'll have JD Vance for 8 years to follow president Trump. It's so enjoyable to watch the complete internal destruction of the democrat party. Go DSA!
Elmer, you gotta be careful. A lot of effeminate types in here that get their feelings hurt easily including bungboi.
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