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2/20/2011 10:15am
motogrady wrote:
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend. This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last...
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend.

This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last year or so.

Sounds to me you have a bit of 'riderprefitis' yourself.

What his contract is or running in the series does not give him carte blanche to run over anyone, period.
I agree, at the start of the season I was pulling for Hanny...he's smooth, fast and seems to be a likable kind of guy.

Unnecessary take out moves like he's been pulling will be counterproductive to him winning the title at some point.
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2/20/2011 10:16am Edited Date/Time 2/20/2011 10:20am
jmar wrote:
Josh is riding for a championship. There was talk of some type of incident between Kyle and Josh before this happened. I didn't see it, but...
Josh is riding for a championship. There was talk of some type of incident between Kyle and Josh before this happened. I didn't see it, but even if it didn't happen, I don't see this the same way you and others do.

I completely stand by my comment about how rider preference determines what motoboard fans think about an incident like this.



1 100 Joshua Hansen 128
2 20 Broc Tickle 125
3 19 Eli Tomac 116
Well I am a fan of Eli Tomac and hopes he wins the championship, but don't really have a dog in this fight or have a "rider preference" in terms of this incident. I don't dislike Hansen.

The second Hansen did that to Cunningham, I turned to my wife and said, "That was just dirty riding." Jeff Emig then echoed my thoughts exactly about 1.5 seconds later.

It doesn't matter whether you like or dislike Josh Hansen or not, it was dirty riding. It was not necessary. I'd have a lot more respect for guys if they just said, "Yep, that was a dirty one alright" and not try to justify it. I mean at least have the guts to call it what it is. If my best friend did that to someone in a race, I'd say the same to him.

My guess is there will be payback and it will be an expensive lesson for a rider who's old enough to know better.
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2/20/2011 10:17am
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X's 100. That's really the point.......... the sport is dangerous enough. Track behavior like like needs to be nipped. Kids watch and think it's ok. I...
X's 100. That's really the point.......... the sport is dangerous enough. Track behavior like like needs to be nipped. Kids watch and think it's ok. I know of a few life changing injuries caused by too much testosterone and bad judgment. Emig has it right! Oh and for the record, I am friendly with Josh and consider Donnie, his Dad, a goof friend. I don't approve.
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2/20/2011 10:18am
jmar wrote:
Josh is riding for a championship. There was talk of some type of incident between Kyle and Josh before this happened. I didn't see it, but...
Josh is riding for a championship. There was talk of some type of incident between Kyle and Josh before this happened. I didn't see it, but even if it didn't happen, I don't see this the same way you and others do.

I completely stand by my comment about how rider preference determines what motoboard fans think about an incident like this.



1 100 Joshua Hansen 128
2 20 Broc Tickle 125
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motogrady wrote:
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend. This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last...
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend.

This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last year or so.

Sounds to me you have a bit of 'riderprefitis' yourself.

What his contract is or running in the series does not give him carte blanche to run over anyone, period.
No rider preference here, and if you paid attention you would have already known that.

This is pro level racing, and taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" doesn't equate to running over someone.

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2/20/2011 10:23am
jmar wrote:
Josh is riding for a championship. There was talk of some type of incident between Kyle and Josh before this happened. I didn't see it, but...
Josh is riding for a championship. There was talk of some type of incident between Kyle and Josh before this happened. I didn't see it, but even if it didn't happen, I don't see this the same way you and others do.

I completely stand by my comment about how rider preference determines what motoboard fans think about an incident like this.



1 100 Joshua Hansen 128
2 20 Broc Tickle 125
3 19 Eli Tomac 116
motogrady wrote:
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend. This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last...
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend.

This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last year or so.

Sounds to me you have a bit of 'riderprefitis' yourself.

What his contract is or running in the series does not give him carte blanche to run over anyone, period.
jmar wrote:
No rider preference here, and if you paid attention you would have already known that. This is pro level racing, and taking advantage of an inside...
No rider preference here, and if you paid attention you would have already known that.

This is pro level racing, and taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" doesn't equate to running over someone.
I dunno Jmar, you seem to be locked on Hansen in this thread anyway.

Let me ask you, did you see the Canada/100 incident?

If it's okay for 100 to run like that, why not everyone else?
2/20/2011 10:26am
What's funny to me is when I read peoples posts talking about aggressive riding and track etiquette it's clear as day to me who actually has raced at a high level or at least has idea how things are conducted. Some people get it. Some people don't.
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jmar wrote:
No rider preference here, and if you paid attention you would have already known that. This is pro level racing, and taking advantage of an inside...
No rider preference here, and if you paid attention you would have already known that.

This is pro level racing, and taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" doesn't equate to running over someone.
Ahhh, there you said it right that time..."taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" does't equate to running over someone" !

You're correct about that as Hansen could have just as easily made the pass back without targeting KC's front wheel and deliberately going for the unnecessary and dangerous take out.
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2/20/2011 10:28am
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What's funny to me is when I read peoples posts talking about aggressive riding and track etiquette it's clear as day to me who actually has...
What's funny to me is when I read peoples posts talking about aggressive riding and track etiquette it's clear as day to me who actually has raced at a high level or at least has idea how things are conducted. Some people get it. Some people don't.
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2/20/2011 10:29am
motogrady wrote:
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend. This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last...
Don't paint the whole site with that brush my friend.

This guy admires the hell out of Hansen for where he's come from in the last year or so.

Sounds to me you have a bit of 'riderprefitis' yourself.

What his contract is or running in the series does not give him carte blanche to run over anyone, period.
jmar wrote:
No rider preference here, and if you paid attention you would have already known that. This is pro level racing, and taking advantage of an inside...
No rider preference here, and if you paid attention you would have already known that.

This is pro level racing, and taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" doesn't equate to running over someone.
motogrady wrote:
I dunno Jmar, you seem to be locked on Hansen in this thread anyway. Let me ask you, did you see the Canada/100 incident? If it's...
I dunno Jmar, you seem to be locked on Hansen in this thread anyway.

Let me ask you, did you see the Canada/100 incident?

If it's okay for 100 to run like that, why not everyone else?
No I didn't, but my opinion is based on what I saw on the KC incident.

My opinion may be different on the Canada incident.
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2/20/2011 10:34am
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Ahhh, there you said it right that time..."taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" does't equate to running over someone" ! You're...
Ahhh, there you said it right that time..."taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" does't equate to running over someone" !

You're correct about that as Hansen could have just as easily made the pass back without targeting KC's front wheel and deliberately going for the unnecessary and dangerous take out.
Mooch

You saw what you wanted to see.

Your a rider,

Have you ever raced on a very slick surface, and didn't feel like you could make a turn any tighter with out breaking the wheels of the bike loose?

I haven't seen the replay, but I would bet that Josh was already sliding when contact was made.
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2/20/2011 10:38am
Back to the original topic, have they said which bone is broken? If it's just a broken little finger (which is the only specifics I caught during the broadcast), I would think he'll be fine after they plate it given the time he has left before they return to the West. I broke my right first metacarpal, which is the bone that runs from the base of the thumb down to the wrist. It was completely broken in half, and my thumb was bent inwards under my hand and wouldn't move at all. They did surgery and put in a plate with 6 screws. It took 3 weeks of physical therapy to get it moving again, but after 4 weeks it felt real good and I returned to work. Granted, doing dentistry isn't the same as riding SX, but given the fact that he rode with it broken, in 6 weeks or so he should be doing good. And I had zero pain after the surgery despite a 4 inch incision. A broken bone in the hand or a finger isn't anything like healing up from a broken wrist.
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2/20/2011 10:39am
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Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot. You guys tell me this is right, last...
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot.

You guys tell me this is right, last segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1reIw3tWaGc&feature=player_embedded
You know that you have to retaliate to something like that, otherwise they gonna bitchslap you every race they can. WTF. When MC did that to Stewart you all thought he was a hero.
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2/20/2011 10:40am
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Clean and friendly move? No Hanny going for a championship and Kyle left the door open? Yes Shit happens, man up or go take up field...
Clean and friendly move? No

Hanny going for a championship and Kyle left the door open? Yes

Shit happens, man up or go take up field hockey? Please.
RMZ819 wrote:
Hanson has been knocking every rider down that he has passed this yr. Dude is a tool. Tickle will win the title. Cunningham and every other...
Hanson has been knocking every rider down that he has passed this yr. Dude is a tool. Tickle will win the title. Cunningham and every other rider that Hanson has put on the ground will make sure of it..

That move on Cunningham was not a shit happens move kid. .
If it is so well known that Hanny is going to take you out then maybe Kyle shouldn't have left the door ope in that turn tight after passing him.

Like I said....nice, clean move....no but there are thousands of dollars on the line here it isn't chicken licks raceway.

And "Kid" ?

I'm looking at 49 in a few months, kid is long gone......lol.
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2/20/2011 10:43am
mooch wrote:
Ahhh, there you said it right that time..."taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" does't equate to running over someone" ! You're...
Ahhh, there you said it right that time..."taking advantage of an inside line that was left "wide open" does't equate to running over someone" !

You're correct about that as Hansen could have just as easily made the pass back without targeting KC's front wheel and deliberately going for the unnecessary and dangerous take out.
jmar wrote:
Mooch You saw what you wanted to see. Your a rider, Have you ever raced on a very slick surface, and didn't feel like you could...
Mooch

You saw what you wanted to see.

Your a rider,

Have you ever raced on a very slick surface, and didn't feel like you could make a turn any tighter with out breaking the wheels of the bike loose?

I haven't seen the replay, but I would bet that Josh was already sliding when contact was made.
You'll need to watch it again. Classic blatant clean out.

It's only going to make the West more interesting.
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jmar wrote:
Mooch You saw what you wanted to see. Your a rider, Have you ever raced on a very slick surface, and didn't feel like you could...
Mooch

You saw what you wanted to see.

Your a rider,

Have you ever raced on a very slick surface, and didn't feel like you could make a turn any tighter with out breaking the wheels of the bike loose?

I haven't seen the replay, but I would bet that Josh was already sliding when contact was made.
jmar, there's gonna be different opinions on stuff like this and I respect the fact that you don't get beligerent and start calling out folks as being "old crybabies" or "fucking babies" when they don't agree with your opinion. Even more important, your consistent when it comes to topics like this regardless of who the rider is and furthermore you don't state one opinion on this forum and then an entirely different opinion on another forum as barrington did.

When you say you've not seen the replay, does that mean you saw it live at San Diego? If so, maybe take a peak at replay as it didn't seem like a situation where Hanny overshot the point where he needed to square it up.
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2/20/2011 10:53am
motogrady wrote:
They way I see it, 100 has about 3 tbones coming, with good reason, from 3 different guys. They way he took Canada out a few...
They way I see it, 100 has about 3 tbones coming, with good reason, from 3 different guys.


They way he took Canada out a few weeks ago deserves a payback for sure. Canada could have layed in wait
for a lap, did the deed and it would have been fine with me.


That's the kind of racingf Hansen wants to dish out, he should expect no less and maybe more in return.
EXACTLY the way I see it also...............
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2/20/2011 10:59am
Thank's for the respectful comments, and ditto that back to you.. I try my best to not get caught up in some of the banter that goes on here.

BTW: Motograndy: I watched the Canada incident and Josh took him much wider than he had to and it was Unnecessary.

That video also showed how KC can be as rough as anyone.
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Yeah, no reason for that move. He was riding injured and holding up #35, just pull over. What did that get him in the c'ship 1...
Yeah, no reason for that move. He was riding injured and holding up #35, just pull over. What did that get him in the c'ship 1 point? Scumbag
hahahahaha with everything you just said.. you obv never have lined up to race before. Damn!!!
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2/20/2011 11:02am
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Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot. You guys tell me this is right, last...
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot.

You guys tell me this is right, last segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1reIw3tWaGc&feature=player_embedded
your asking if Hansen's move on Canada was right? Well I agree with Emig, it was payback...for Canada pushing Hanny right off the track...Whatever the case, one thing I do know...if I am racing against Hansen, do not mess with him in anyway cause he will Clean you azz out ASAP!!!!! Don't even look at him wrong like Cunningham did!!! lol

What I found interesting was when KC blantantly took out Roczen, but also himself and another rider in the process...if you want to pay someone back, at least do it right!
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you girls do remember blockpasses and takeouts have been around before hanny right?
https://youtu.be/edzBeJ2u-jU
this sports gone soft
Thanks man, fun vid....check out at 2:45....if # 50 would have finished out that double with one knee on the seat...would have been the greatest save ever....I'm thinking most dudes let go of the bike before the double, but no!!!
Anyone know who that was?
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2/20/2011 11:26am
What was the reason for Cunningham nearly coming together on Hansen over the finish?
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motogrady wrote:
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot. You guys tell me this is right, last...
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot.

You guys tell me this is right, last segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1reIw3tWaGc&feature=player_embedded
2/20/2011 12:00pm
The problem with Hansen is that ANY sort of discrepancy towards him, however minor, automatically results in him trying to take you out.

Bump into him slightly... take him slightly too wide... LOOK over at him... etc. Whatever it is, Hansen's default setting is to crash into you. He's judge, jury and executioner all in one. And his sentence is always the same. He doesn't just do what you did to him. No, he tries to take you out.

And aside from being immoral, dangerous and disrespectful, it's a silly, silly risk for almost no gain.

He doesn't have to do it. Making enemies left and right is not in his interests towards winning the title. If someone took him out then that would be different. I have tremendous respect for the comeback he has made but he need's to cool down a bit and let his speed (and gritty rides through pain) do the talking. If he wins this title then that is what people will look back and respect him for... Good speed early on and gritty rides through pain.

As it stands, almost ANYONE could do what they like to Hanny at the next rd and no one (almost no one) would care.
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2/20/2011 12:38pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2011 12:39pm
motogrady wrote:
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot. You guys tell me this is right, last...
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot.

You guys tell me this is right, last segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1reIw3tWaGc&feature=player_embedded
Karma wrote:
your asking if Hansen's move on Canada was right? Well I agree with Emig, it was payback...for Canada pushing Hanny right off the track...Whatever the case...
your asking if Hansen's move on Canada was right? Well I agree with Emig, it was payback...for Canada pushing Hanny right off the track...Whatever the case, one thing I do know...if I am racing against Hansen, do not mess with him in anyway cause he will Clean you azz out ASAP!!!!! Don't even look at him wrong like Cunningham did!!! lol

What I found interesting was when KC blantantly took out Roczen, but also himself and another rider in the process...if you want to pay someone back, at least do it right!
FYI - KC didn't blatantly "take out" Roczen. He came in hot and overshot the berm. He also apologized to Ken Roczen for what happened (little drama to be found here) ...does this make him (KC) the bigger man -- probably not -- it probably justifies all the "douchebag" name calling that goes on this board. I don't think people really want to know the truth. Sad that we perceive to know the truth without asking for it.
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2/20/2011 1:01pm Edited Date/Time 2/20/2011 1:03pm
motogrady wrote:
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot. You guys tell me this is right, last...
Yeah, Hansen had every right.................he was just tried of messing with the kid and gave him a boot.

You guys tell me this is right, last segment.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1reIw3tWaGc&feature=player_embedded
Karma wrote:
your asking if Hansen's move on Canada was right? Well I agree with Emig, it was payback...for Canada pushing Hanny right off the track...Whatever the case...
your asking if Hansen's move on Canada was right? Well I agree with Emig, it was payback...for Canada pushing Hanny right off the track...Whatever the case, one thing I do know...if I am racing against Hansen, do not mess with him in anyway cause he will Clean you azz out ASAP!!!!! Don't even look at him wrong like Cunningham did!!! lol

What I found interesting was when KC blantantly took out Roczen, but also himself and another rider in the process...if you want to pay someone back, at least do it right!
wdingit wrote:
FYI - KC didn't blatantly "take out" Roczen. He came in hot and overshot the berm. He also apologized to Ken Roczen for what happened (little...
FYI - KC didn't blatantly "take out" Roczen. He came in hot and overshot the berm. He also apologized to Ken Roczen for what happened (little drama to be found here) ...does this make him (KC) the bigger man -- probably not -- it probably justifies all the "douchebag" name calling that goes on this board. I don't think people really want to know the truth. Sad that we perceive to know the truth without asking for it.
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wdingit,

Please don't let what these idiots say get to you. They are message board hacks who have nothing better in their lives than to bash on the riders (and sometimes the riders' family and/or friends/girlfriends) to get attention. KC is a talented rider, and I am sure that he can and will handle himself on the track just fine. He's out there racing which is something most of these message board hacks can't do. They will bash a rider for being in the lites class too long while ignoring the fact that their untalented asses have been in the C class for the last 12 years. We all know the riders and their family and friends read these boards. That's why these douches post the stuff they post. A thread bashing a rider gets ten pages, I post a thread saying something positive about Dungey and it drops off the board quicker than the speed of light, ending in flames and insults. My point here is that they (the message board couch jockeys) are going to say what they are going to say. I would just ignore them.
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I'm gonna agree with Emig...not something you'd teach your kid to do.

Becoming less and less a Hanny fan as the take out moves pile up.
I never did like hanny he seems like a cocky smart ass, and all the tatoos and long hair makes him look like he belongs in the hood. Now with him taking people out every single week when he dosen't have to gets really old. I hope some one else wins the west coast championship any one but hansen.
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Karma wrote:
your asking if Hansen's move on Canada was right? Well I agree with Emig, it was payback...for Canada pushing Hanny right off the track...Whatever the case...
your asking if Hansen's move on Canada was right? Well I agree with Emig, it was payback...for Canada pushing Hanny right off the track...Whatever the case, one thing I do know...if I am racing against Hansen, do not mess with him in anyway cause he will Clean you azz out ASAP!!!!! Don't even look at him wrong like Cunningham did!!! lol

What I found interesting was when KC blantantly took out Roczen, but also himself and another rider in the process...if you want to pay someone back, at least do it right!
wdingit wrote:
FYI - KC didn't blatantly "take out" Roczen. He came in hot and overshot the berm. He also apologized to Ken Roczen for what happened (little...
FYI - KC didn't blatantly "take out" Roczen. He came in hot and overshot the berm. He also apologized to Ken Roczen for what happened (little drama to be found here) ...does this make him (KC) the bigger man -- probably not -- it probably justifies all the "douchebag" name calling that goes on this board. I don't think people really want to know the truth. Sad that we perceive to know the truth without asking for it.
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Vazscep wrote:
wdingit, Please don't let what these idiots say get to you. They are message board hacks who have nothing better in their lives than to bash...
wdingit,

Please don't let what these idiots say get to you. They are message board hacks who have nothing better in their lives than to bash on the riders (and sometimes the riders' family and/or friends/girlfriends) to get attention. KC is a talented rider, and I am sure that he can and will handle himself on the track just fine. He's out there racing which is something most of these message board hacks can't do. They will bash a rider for being in the lites class too long while ignoring the fact that their untalented asses have been in the C class for the last 12 years. We all know the riders and their family and friends read these boards. That's why these douches post the stuff they post. A thread bashing a rider gets ten pages, I post a thread saying something positive about Dungey and it drops off the board quicker than the speed of light, ending in flames and insults. My point here is that they (the message board couch jockeys) are going to say what they are going to say. I would just ignore them.
Thank you for this post, I appreciate the insight. So true, guess I just thought that if people knew some of the "positives" that they would not dwell on the "negatives". My mistake.
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It would be really good to see all the people hansen has taken out this season take him out at las vegas when it will matter most for him. I mean every single one of them durring the same race so he gets last place and looses the championship. I would be so happy he thinks he is like the king or something and everyone should get out of his way.

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