New sport (sprint car) (mid July season break update)

6/2/2026 3:42pm Edited Date/Time 6/2/2026 3:43pm
the GoPro really helps me analyze my driving, what I need to improve on is my intensity in the first three laps, I get crept away...

the GoPro really helps me analyze my driving, what I need to improve on is my intensity in the first three laps, I get crept away from and then I hold that distance once I get wound up and comfortable and even pull them back in a bit but by then I’m a quarter lap down. During hot laps before we line up I need to pin it and get fired up, and I need to stop spinning out in the heat races 😬😭

We went way tighter with the car setup, I’m realizing I like a tighter car just like my uncle did, he basically set my car up like he used to set his up, we went to 18 right rear spacing from the start which felt a little tippy in qualifying but was super hooked up
 

 


 

That right out of the gate intensity is what I’ve always struggled with, whether it’s moto, hare scrambles, or car racing. Luckily my fitness was always good enough on a bike that I could start picking people off at the end of a moto or HS, but car racing has always been one I’ve had a hard time finding any other way to get around the intensity needed to get to the front quicker. 

In my first feature in a street stock, we had to draw pills because a rain delay ate up our time for heat races. I pulled outside 2nd or 3rd row for my first ever start in the car out of 18-20 cars. This was the same class my dad had raced for 20 years, so he was familiar with just about every other driver and I’m sure gave them a forewarning. Anyway, my dad wouldn’t let me elect to start in the rear so I had to start up there. I was 15 and was terrified when the green went. I just tried to stay in the high line and let people get their nose up to my door when they could. We had a caution around lap 8 or 9 and when we finally slowed down I realized how inconsistent, or non existent my breathing was the whole time. Me and the car made it home in one piece that night, but that is something I will never forget.


Still never figured out how to gain that intensity in the first few laps, or go put down a burner qualifying lap. I was much more of a save the tires until the end kind of driver. 

Watching your video from the stands is impressive though! I’ve never had the opportunity to drive any kind of sprint car, but I can’t imagine how much different it is than any kind of full body car. Your corner entry and rotation through looks like you’ve been doing it for 10 years already. 

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6/11/2026 2:30pm Edited Date/Time 6/11/2026 2:31pm

Meant to post while I was still there, but just got back from three days at Eldora for the Dirt Late Model Dream! Place blows me away everytime I walk in there. IMG 1798 3

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6/12/2026 4:14am

You look like your car control is coming along well. Getting the car to go exactly where you want it takes time. I would say maybe a stiffer throttle spring to calm your foot a little might help on nights where there isn't much track there. The middle was definitely death valley! Look into lighter bars, the car doesn't seem to be "in" the track as much as on top of it. Don't try to get roll by backing off the LR rebound though, that's not the best way. You'll just get the car loose then start fighting that all over. Just a couple of thoughts. 

Good luck and have fun tomorrow night !!! 

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6/12/2026 6:01pm
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You look like your car control is coming along well. Getting the car to go exactly where you want it takes time. I would say maybe...

You look like your car control is coming along well. Getting the car to go exactly where you want it takes time. I would say maybe a stiffer throttle spring to calm your foot a little might help on nights where there isn't much track there. The middle was definitely death valley! Look into lighter bars, the car doesn't seem to be "in" the track as much as on top of it. Don't try to get roll by backing off the LR rebound though, that's not the best way. You'll just get the car loose then start fighting that all over. Just a couple of thoughts. 

Good luck and have fun tomorrow night !!! 

Maybe try reverse split ?

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6/15/2026 4:10am

Looks like a busy night. At least you got back out for the main. Keep working on it ... it isn't easy.

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6/18/2026 12:52pm

How bad was the axel, were you able to get another one if it wasn't able to be straightened? For those of you that think it's bad to straighten a slightly bent axel, while not optional it is ok to do. Just have to take it slow. Most times the spare was a straightened one anyway. 

6/18/2026 11:23pm
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How bad was the axel, were you able to get another one if it wasn't able to be straightened? For those of you that think it's...

How bad was the axel, were you able to get another one if it wasn't able to be straightened? For those of you that think it's bad to straighten a slightly bent axel, while not optional it is ok to do. Just have to take it slow. Most times the spare was a straightened one anyway. 

Decently messed up it had a kink in it and was bent about 30 degrees back, we had a spare at my house which is 15 minutes away and two of my buddy’s went and grabbed it while we changed out the tire and took the front end apart, as soon as they got there we had just taken it apart and threw the spare on, spare is a 52 and I was running a 53 and had to quick adjust the tow and the steering angles so the car felt a little weird in the main

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6/19/2026 1:32pm Edited Date/Time 6/19/2026 1:34pm

Good your parts "warehouse" is close by ... how in the hell are you going to get any seat time this year ???!!! That schedule is really fucked up!!! You've got three more shows and you're done!! 

That's ridiculous, and why not have a fair race ?? 

Rant over, sorry. 

Hey, why not get a wing car and run the NARC show  at Santa Maria on the 11th !! Cept the track is alway rough as fuk.

😄🤙hellsyeah

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6/19/2026 2:41pm
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Good your parts "warehouse" is close by ... how in the hell are you going to get any seat time this year ???!!! That schedule is...

Good your parts "warehouse" is close by ... how in the hell are you going to get any seat time this year ???!!! That schedule is really fucked up!!! You've got three more shows and you're done!! 

That's ridiculous, and why not have a fair race ?? 

Rant over, sorry. 

Hey, why not get a wing car and run the NARC show  at Santa Maria on the 11th !! Cept the track is alway rough as fuk.

😄🤙hellsyeah

They used to usually have one night of racing at the beginning of the fair which included a demolition derby.  But the race track is used for concerts during the fair, so the races would usually be like the first night of the fair, sometimes on a weekday I think, and then they'd shut it down and turn it into a concert stage. 


I'm not sure why they quit doing that.  I'm guessing it was a fairgrounds decision, not a raceway decision.

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6/22/2026 7:04pm Edited Date/Time 6/22/2026 7:11pm
kmc140 wrote:
Good your parts "warehouse" is close by ... how in the hell are you going to get any seat time this year ???!!! That schedule is...

Good your parts "warehouse" is close by ... how in the hell are you going to get any seat time this year ???!!! That schedule is really fucked up!!! You've got three more shows and you're done!! 

That's ridiculous, and why not have a fair race ?? 

Rant over, sorry. 

Hey, why not get a wing car and run the NARC show  at Santa Maria on the 11th !! Cept the track is alway rough as fuk.

😄🤙hellsyeah

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They used to usually have one night of racing at the beginning of the fair which included a demolition derby.  But the race track is used...

They used to usually have one night of racing at the beginning of the fair which included a demolition derby.  But the race track is used for concerts during the fair, so the races would usually be like the first night of the fair, sometimes on a weekday I think, and then they'd shut it down and turn it into a concert stage. 


I'm not sure why they quit doing that.  I'm guessing it was a fairgrounds decision, not a raceway decision.

It would be so cool to have one during the fair and I think it would boost interest in the sport, but after seeing Ryan Timmons go out of the park last year it might be a safety issue😬

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Once I get my own engine going again I’m going to run the USCS series they run at Santa Maria and ocean speedway, kern, Antioch and a few more, they also pay start money I think it’s 300 just to start the main which would pay for gas in the van and alcohol for the car 🤷‍♂️

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6/23/2026 4:14am Edited Date/Time 6/23/2026 9:04pm

Those will be fun, SM, Ocean and Antioch are similar in size so you should be able to get away with gear sizes similar to what you have, never been to Kern. Make friends with the tire trailer guy.🤣 And pick up a couple more gear sets for Kern.

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7/24/2026 10:49pm Edited Date/Time 7/24/2026 10:51pm


Update, car is torn down for the break they run to host the Ventura county fair, I got my pistons here after 8 weeks which isn’t bad for custom pistons, rods were hooked up through wiseci, I got a killer deal on a set of boostline rods, crank has been balanced for the bob weight, new stud kits from arp (thanks to my brother in law and my buddy Jared), new bearings, cylinders ball honed, new cam on the way, and I just need a set of new lifters and my engine will be back going. I’m painting a helmet and body for a car for the guy that hooked me up with the loaner engine 😎 going to be a sick looking setup, some preview photos of the helmet, the white area is going to have American flag realistic look to it. With white outlines. And then an American eagle on the back. If you know him don’t show him the helmet, I want it to be a surprise 👍 as soon as I get my engine going I am going to Probly race up at Santa Maria or perris as soon as possibleIMG 1180 7IMG 1185 2.jpeg?VersionId=ouZcfC7k7cJMKWTz6gNGsBzvUUmk6IMG 1187 5.jpeg?VersionId=dRhNHxyo9oL

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7/26/2026 11:44am Edited Date/Time 7/26/2026 11:46am

Id love to see the bottoms of the pistons to see how much they sanded on 'em to balance out.  Same with the rods.
Did the rotating assembly balance out with no mallory metal added?  Big drill holes?

I used a Eagle ultralight crank on my 360 and was super fortunate it all balanced out without any mallory metal.  If you look at this pic,  you can see how skinny those crank throws are.  Eagle Ultra lightweight crank,  Eagle rods and JE Ultra pistons. Very light reciprocating assembly.

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Is you dad using 1.5 rockers?  1.6?   You mentioned lifters,  I heard people dont use RevKits anymore?  With a steep ramp,  how do you keep the roller from bouncing?

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Post up some engine build pics when you get that far.   Helmet is gonna be sweet.

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7/26/2026 12:56pm
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As long as it doesn't look like this ... 

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7/26/2026 2:16pm
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Id love to see the bottoms of the pistons to see how much they sanded on 'em to balance out.  Same with the rods.Did the rotating...

Id love to see the bottoms of the pistons to see how much they sanded on 'em to balance out.  Same with the rods.
Did the rotating assembly balance out with no mallory metal added?  Big drill holes?

I used a Eagle ultralight crank on my 360 and was super fortunate it all balanced out without any mallory metal.  If you look at this pic,  you can see how skinny those crank throws are.  Eagle Ultra lightweight crank,  Eagle rods and JE Ultra pistons. Very light reciprocating assembly.

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Is you dad using 1.5 rockers?  1.6?   You mentioned lifters,  I heard people dont use RevKits anymore?  With a steep ramp,  how do you keep the roller from bouncing?

RevKit

 

Post up some engine build pics when you get that far.   Helmet is gonna be sweet.

Yeah no rev kits and I actually found out the guy that buildt this motor originally is my dads buddy Steve Gresham an old school speedway pro that got into building engines once he moved back home from racing in Europe for like 25 years or so, so I’ve been hanging with him a bit and he said they run super high seat pressure on the valve springs to compensate, like 320 psi if I remember correctly, and yeah my lifters are 1.5 on intake and exhaust

7/26/2026 4:26pm

High limit series just rolled through the area last week. Our local track had them on Thursday night. Got home at 1am ,wirk was alittle slow Friday for me.

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Yeah no rev kits and I actually found out the guy that buildt this motor originally is my dads buddy Steve Gresham an old school speedway...

Yeah no rev kits and I actually found out the guy that buildt this motor originally is my dads buddy Steve Gresham an old school speedway pro that got into building engines once he moved back home from racing in Europe for like 25 years or so, so I’ve been hanging with him a bit and he said they run super high seat pressure on the valve springs to compensate, like 320 psi if I remember correctly, and yeah my lifters are 1.5 on intake and exhaust

Daaamn,  they are really testing the limits of valve locks these days.  LOL   Ive been outta the loop for a while now so since you posted this thread did some reading,  it seems they have come out with some really cool valve spring designs that dont have the funky harmonics like older stuff did, and they are getting valve weight down enough so the moving mass doesnt need as much pressure as it used to.  They also have tweaked ramp rate so even with really high lift grinds,  you arent slamming the door so much on closing.

I always did installed heights on valves myself to get them all perfect.   Slow tedious stuff,  but worth it when you put the rocker shaft on and everything is spot on aligned across the tips.

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I think that batch there was Ferrea.   

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7/27/2026 9:52pm

Pretty stoked with how Jon’s helmet came out, I just have to deck the clear and clean up some lines, then another layer of clear

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7/28/2026 12:59pm

Lid turned out very special !! Great job D !!! 

Be careful if you make it up to SM, place always ends up with a lot of "character" and a mean ass cushion that'll ruin your hour and a half drive home. 

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7/28/2026 7:55pm Edited Date/Time 7/28/2026 10:16pm
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Lid turned out very special !! Great job D !!! Be careful if you make it up to SM, place always ends up with a lot of...

Lid turned out very special !! Great job D !!! 

Be careful if you make it up to SM, place always ends up with a lot of "character" and a mean ass cushion that'll ruin your hour and a half drive home. 

Yeah my buddy David just raced there and he said it was super unpredictable, slick spots and then grippy ruts right after. Funny thing he raced against my brother in quarter midgets when we were kids and then he ended up moving nearby and getting a sprint car, so now 25 years later we’re racing against each other, that’s him in the silver car IMG 1404 3

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