Reinventing Cinema

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Studios can cast whomever they want - at their peril. Plenty of people will watch a black Little Mermaid or Snow White because they wear it like a badge of honor, a talisman to their wokeness. Others don't really care about the color of someone's skin and will watch for the story. Still others will boycott a movie because it doesn't meet their definition of "proper" casting.

As for me, I'd prefer casting choices that make sense for the character involved. Incidentally, there was nothing in The Little Mermaid that specifies the mer-people were white, so why not a black person? Snow White, however, was described in the story as having a pale complexion. It's right in the name of the story! That girl should be white, just because it makes sense.
It works both ways; we should probably cast middle-easterners as Jesus or Lawrence of Arabia, Black people as Zulus, Chinese as Confucius, Mongols as Attila, etc. Hollywood was wrong to whitewash these characters and I feel like the current-day inclusivity in casting is an overreaction to that. 

One way I think we could get over all this would be if the studios would branch out a little bit and tell wider-ranging stories than only ones of European origin. I'd like to see remakes of Ghandi or Lawrence of Arabia with great actors of color. Let's watch a beautiful olive-skinned Greek lady as Helen of Troy, a chilling rendition of Mao-Tse Tung by an actual Chinese actor, or an Arab actress play Sheherezade. 

And finally, it's OK to have a white person play a white character every now and then! 😄

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7/21/2026 11:05am
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I watched the film last night and was appalled at the casting choices. 

I did not buy Matt Damon as Helen of Troy.

He's not even Greek. 

His face wouldn’t launch a Jon boat, much less a thousand ships!

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I'm still pissed off about "The Wiz" . 

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Went last night to see it in IMAX. Not a bad film. Not the best I’ve ever seen, either. I’d give it about a 7.5 out of 10. I wish that I had brushed up on the story ahead of time instead of relying on my 45 years ago high school memory! 

Just for reference, I’d score Slingblade and the original Willy Wonka as 9.5s. 

 

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7/27/2026 6:07am Edited Date/Time 7/27/2026 6:09am
Falcon wrote:
Studios can cast whomever they want - at their peril. Plenty of people will watch a black Little Mermaid or Snow White because they wear it...

Studios can cast whomever they want - at their peril. Plenty of people will watch a black Little Mermaid or Snow White because they wear it like a badge of honor, a talisman to their wokeness. Others don't really care about the color of someone's skin and will watch for the story. Still others will boycott a movie because it doesn't meet their definition of "proper" casting.

As for me, I'd prefer casting choices that make sense for the character involved. Incidentally, there was nothing in The Little Mermaid that specifies the mer-people were white, so why not a black person? Snow White, however, was described in the story as having a pale complexion. It's right in the name of the story! That girl should be white, just because it makes sense.
It works both ways; we should probably cast middle-easterners as Jesus or Lawrence of Arabia, Black people as Zulus, Chinese as Confucius, Mongols as Attila, etc. Hollywood was wrong to whitewash these characters and I feel like the current-day inclusivity in casting is an overreaction to that. 

One way I think we could get over all this would be if the studios would branch out a little bit and tell wider-ranging stories than only ones of European origin. I'd like to see remakes of Ghandi or Lawrence of Arabia with great actors of color. Let's watch a beautiful olive-skinned Greek lady as Helen of Troy, a chilling rendition of Mao-Tse Tung by an actual Chinese actor, or an Arab actress play Sheherezade. 

And finally, it's OK to have a white person play a white character every now and then! 😄

Thomas Edward Lawrence was a British Army officer, he wasn’t from Arabia, so casting a person of color in the role of a real life white guy would be as goofy as casting Lupita Nyong’o as a character from ancient Greece. 

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This just in !     Checks all the woke boxes.    Obama 0.jfif?VersionId=CE.nqKCN

 

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JAFO92 wrote:
This just in !     Checks all the woke boxes.     

This just in !     Checks all the woke boxes.    Obama 0.jfif?VersionId=CE.nqKCN

 

Oh man!😆

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Falcon wrote:
Studios can cast whomever they want - at their peril. Plenty of people will watch a black Little Mermaid or Snow White because they wear it...

Studios can cast whomever they want - at their peril. Plenty of people will watch a black Little Mermaid or Snow White because they wear it like a badge of honor, a talisman to their wokeness. Others don't really care about the color of someone's skin and will watch for the story. Still others will boycott a movie because it doesn't meet their definition of "proper" casting.

As for me, I'd prefer casting choices that make sense for the character involved. Incidentally, there was nothing in The Little Mermaid that specifies the mer-people were white, so why not a black person? Snow White, however, was described in the story as having a pale complexion. It's right in the name of the story! That girl should be white, just because it makes sense.
It works both ways; we should probably cast middle-easterners as Jesus or Lawrence of Arabia, Black people as Zulus, Chinese as Confucius, Mongols as Attila, etc. Hollywood was wrong to whitewash these characters and I feel like the current-day inclusivity in casting is an overreaction to that. 

One way I think we could get over all this would be if the studios would branch out a little bit and tell wider-ranging stories than only ones of European origin. I'd like to see remakes of Ghandi or Lawrence of Arabia with great actors of color. Let's watch a beautiful olive-skinned Greek lady as Helen of Troy, a chilling rendition of Mao-Tse Tung by an actual Chinese actor, or an Arab actress play Sheherezade. 

And finally, it's OK to have a white person play a white character every now and then! 😄

Sully wrote:
Thomas Edward Lawrence was a British Army officer, he wasn’t from Arabia, so casting a person of color in the role of a real life white...

Thomas Edward Lawrence was a British Army officer, he wasn’t from Arabia, so casting a person of color in the role of a real life white guy would be as goofy as casting Lupita Nyong’o as a character from ancient Greece. 

I think he got the Lawrence of Arabia reference mixed up a little bit.  The issue wasn't Peter O'Toole as T.E. Lawrence, it was Alec Guinness as Prince Feisal.  

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I can see a bunch if Artsy types sitting around a table discussing cinema...on t.v. ...

Black turtle-necks

Thick-framed stupid looking glasses

Glasses of wine

Legs crossed

The name of the show?

Reinventing Cinema, with  your host Dieter 

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TeamGreen wrote:
I can see a bunch if Artsy types sitting around a table discussing cinema...on t.v. ...Black turtle-necksThick-framed stupid looking glassesGlasses of wineLegs crossedThe name of the...

I can see a bunch if Artsy types sitting around a table discussing cinema...on t.v. ...

Black turtle-necks

Thick-framed stupid looking glasses

Glasses of wine

Legs crossed

The name of the show?

Reinventing Cinema, with  your host Dieter 

Is it time to dance yet?🤣

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TeamGreen wrote:
I can see a bunch if Artsy types sitting around a table discussing cinema...on t.v. ...Black turtle-necksThick-framed stupid looking glassesGlasses of wineLegs crossedThe name of the...

I can see a bunch if Artsy types sitting around a table discussing cinema...on t.v. ...

Black turtle-necks

Thick-framed stupid looking glasses

Glasses of wine

Legs crossed

The name of the show?

Reinventing Cinema, with  your host Dieter 

ShellyMX wrote:

Is it time to dance yet?🤣

Sprockets!

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ShellyMX
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TeamGreen wrote:

Sprockets!

Yes!!🤣

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JAFO92
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TeamGreen wrote:

Sprockets!

ShellyMX wrote:

Yes!!🤣

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7/28/2026 5:29pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Sprockets!

ShellyMX wrote:

Yes!!🤣

You are so boring. I don't want to talk to you anymore.

It's time to DANCE! 

 

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7/28/2026 5:45pm
TeamGreen wrote:

Sprockets!

ShellyMX wrote:

Yes!!🤣

TeamGreen wrote:

You are so boring. I don't want to talk to you anymore.

It's time to DANCE! 

 

😂😂😂


Not, Muzzer!!! (Mother, 🤣)

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