Stewart in Houston

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Edited Date/Time 1/22/2012 6:10pm
Seems like there's about an even # of opinions on either side. Here's the video.

http://www.vitalmx.com/videos/member/Stewart-at-Houston-2011SX,2333/txm…
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Vazscep 2/13/2011 6:14pm
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Had JT$ not screwed up, James would not have hit him. No one's fault. Hopefully this will shut the James haters up.

...but I doubt it.
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Vazscep wrote:
Had JT$ not screwed up, James would not have hit him. No one's fault. Hopefully this will shut the James haters up.

...but I doubt it.
James should look ahead to where the hell he's going!
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redrider400 2/13/2011 6:17pm
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True, but where was he going when he landed on the tabletop if JT didn't mess. There was no room either way. He would have had to split them in the middle of the track. I don't know. I think at that point he was riding with a little bit of panic and was trying to get to the front.
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Vazscep wrote:
Had JT$ not screwed up, James would not have hit him. No one's fault. Hopefully this will shut the James haters up.

...but I doubt it.
wownd out wrote:
James should look ahead to where the hell he's going!
Really, while on the downside of the face of a jump?

I'm pretty sure the riders assume the dude in front of them is gonna make it at least to point B before they pull the trigger and commit up the face of a jump where you can't see the landing.

You ride right?

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cason402 2/13/2011 9:51pm
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There is no excuse for Stewart's decision to jump that jump when the rider in front doesn't jump it.
It's like trying to blame Reed last year for block passing him, he ran into Reed simply because he didn't have whatever it is to notice and respect the other riders on the track with him.
If you are riding in traffic, you have to ride in traffic.
You can't assume people will hit all the jumps in a rhythm lane the way you would if you had a clear track.
You could excuse Stewart if it was the first time, but unfortunately (for so many other riders) it wasn't his first, or second, or third...
The AMA should have long ago set him down (maybe they have) and get him to realize that he is one of a group of professionals, he may be one of the fastest, but he's JUST ONE of them. He should respect them and ride like he does.
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kingy77 2/13/2011 10:01pm
2/13/2011 10:01pm
You guys seem suprised! Did your forget that it is James Stewart???
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lodown 2/13/2011 10:11pm
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cason402 wrote:
There is no excuse for Stewart's decision to jump that jump when the rider in front doesn't jump it. It's like trying to blame Reed last...
There is no excuse for Stewart's decision to jump that jump when the rider in front doesn't jump it.
It's like trying to blame Reed last year for block passing him, he ran into Reed simply because he didn't have whatever it is to notice and respect the other riders on the track with him.
If you are riding in traffic, you have to ride in traffic.
You can't assume people will hit all the jumps in a rhythm lane the way you would if you had a clear track.
You could excuse Stewart if it was the first time, but unfortunately (for so many other riders) it wasn't his first, or second, or third...
The AMA should have long ago set him down (maybe they have) and get him to realize that he is one of a group of professionals, he may be one of the fastest, but he's JUST ONE of them. He should respect them and ride like he does.
i'm not a Stewart fan, but you're a fool. It's a RACING INCIDENT. Sure, Stewart probably should have been a touch more cautious, but JT totally blew that section. I'm not suggesting it's JT's fault, per se, but had he even remotely done that section correctly, Stewart would not have plowed into his back tire. Stewart committed to his line not knowing that JT was gonna flub - JT I'm sure didn't want to hit that section the way he did. Again, RACING INCIDENT you f'in morons. I swear 99% of you people that come here to rant/complain/etc. probably have never raced in your lives - certainly not at a high level. And if you're wondering why I'm right in this instance (along with the others on this board that have wisely commented about it simply being a racing incident), the AMA will do nothing, b/c they SHOULD DO NOTHING.
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moto717 2/13/2011 10:21pm
2/13/2011 10:21pm
Emig : He is just so fast through these sections..........

Yeah, fast, but watch out for other riders!!

Ralph : Stewart is so lucky that tuff block was there..........

WTF??? Jason Thomas limps off the track, but LUCKY FOR JAMES??? What a pile of crap!

These guys love on this guy waaaaaaayyyyyy to much - if it were any other rider, he would be crucified for pulling a stunt like that.

Well, he is King James, after all.........................
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moto717 2/13/2011 10:23pm
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Vazscep wrote:
Had JT$ not screwed up, James would not have hit him. No one's fault. Hopefully this will shut the James haters up.

...but I doubt it.
HOW is this gonna shut the James haters up? The guy mighta just ended another riders season, cause he shows NO respect for any one else. The AMA had BETTER give him a warning or a penalty for this one.
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Mr. G 2/13/2011 10:24pm
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It seemed he was referring to James landing on his back on the tuff block. Did you actually see it?
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moto717 2/13/2011 10:28pm
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Mr. G wrote:
It seemed he was referring to James landing on his back on the tuff block. Did you actually see it?
Yeah I saw the race. What pissed me off was that JT$ limped off the track, but NOTHING was said of him, the whole focus was on James. Yeah, lucky for him, Jason might have a broken ankle, but to hell with him.
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nytsmaC 2/13/2011 10:29pm
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urbanlift707 wrote:
My question is if JT$ isn't pissed at stewey and seems to think it is a racing incident why do you all care so much?

http://www.pulpmx.com/podcasts/houston-sx-podcasts
Because JT$ is a racer and knows this stuff happens. This board has no shortage of armchair quarterback ass clowns who don't know shit.
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AUS_Twisted 2/13/2011 10:51pm
2/13/2011 10:51pm Edited Date/Time 2/13/2011 11:32pm
Vazscep wrote:
Had JT$ not screwed up, James would not have hit him. No one's fault. Hopefully this will shut the James haters up.

...but I doubt it.
Yeah but there would not of been much room between the 2 even if Thomas hit the double cleanly, the smart thing to do with 2 slower riders fairly close in front of you would be to double. If that was MC or RC I bet they would of gone for the less risky double option when theres 2 riders side by side coming through the pack.
Underground 2/14/2011 1:21am
2/14/2011 1:21am
Calm, cool, calculating James has left the building.
aaryn #234 2/14/2011 1:40am
2/14/2011 1:40am
James has done some silly things in his time and has built a bit of a rep for jumping on People! But the JT situation really was caused more by JT not hitting that double cleanly, he makes that and all is fine, he bobbled and in that split second JS decided to go, shit happend.

Watch it a few times at full speed not slow motion where there is plenty of time to make decsions!

Even the start crash was not really JSs fault, there was some bar banging action down the start straight , happens in every race, JS bounced from side to side and was on the inside of a 90 degree corner, if the guy on the inside goes down everyone around him does no matter who it is. It sucked though he had to take Reedy with him.

Thrown the championship wide open again now, more great racing to come now.
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kongols 2/14/2011 1:46am
2/14/2011 1:46am Edited Date/Time 2/14/2011 1:50am
I blame Canard for a first turn pile up. He basically tboned Stewart causing him to tip over on to Reed.
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cason402 wrote:
There is no excuse for Stewart's decision to jump that jump when the rider in front doesn't jump it. It's like trying to blame Reed last...
There is no excuse for Stewart's decision to jump that jump when the rider in front doesn't jump it.
It's like trying to blame Reed last year for block passing him, he ran into Reed simply because he didn't have whatever it is to notice and respect the other riders on the track with him.
If you are riding in traffic, you have to ride in traffic.
You can't assume people will hit all the jumps in a rhythm lane the way you would if you had a clear track.
You could excuse Stewart if it was the first time, but unfortunately (for so many other riders) it wasn't his first, or second, or third...
The AMA should have long ago set him down (maybe they have) and get him to realize that he is one of a group of professionals, he may be one of the fastest, but he's JUST ONE of them. He should respect them and ride like he does.
lodown wrote:
i'm not a Stewart fan, but you're a fool. It's a RACING INCIDENT. Sure, Stewart probably should have been a touch more cautious, but JT totally...
i'm not a Stewart fan, but you're a fool. It's a RACING INCIDENT. Sure, Stewart probably should have been a touch more cautious, but JT totally blew that section. I'm not suggesting it's JT's fault, per se, but had he even remotely done that section correctly, Stewart would not have plowed into his back tire. Stewart committed to his line not knowing that JT was gonna flub - JT I'm sure didn't want to hit that section the way he did. Again, RACING INCIDENT you f'in morons. I swear 99% of you people that come here to rant/complain/etc. probably have never raced in your lives - certainly not at a high level. And if you're wondering why I'm right in this instance (along with the others on this board that have wisely commented about it simply being a racing incident), the AMA will do nothing, b/c they SHOULD DO NOTHING.
Yup.

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R-acer 2/14/2011 3:10am
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Some of you guys really just have a hate for Stewart.
JT is the one who messed up here. He CASED doubling a TRIPLE. He didnt even make the double. It is a racing incident, and if anything Stewart shouldnt be too upset, but as far as JT goes? he has nothing to be upset at, he caused that.
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DavidR 2/14/2011 4:17am
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R-acer wrote:
Some of you guys really just have a hate for Stewart. JT is the one who messed up here. He CASED doubling a TRIPLE. He didnt...
Some of you guys really just have a hate for Stewart.
JT is the one who messed up here. He CASED doubling a TRIPLE. He didnt even make the double. It is a racing incident, and if anything Stewart shouldnt be too upset, but as far as JT goes? he has nothing to be upset at, he caused that.
Is there another rider out there who as been involved in more racing incidents since 2005? You're going to assign blame to JT for causing that wreck, got it. Tell me then who you're assigning blame to for the first turn pile up that stacked up half the field?
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MS244 2/14/2011 4:24am
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Just curious how many of these "racing incidents" that JS is allowed. It seams that he has more than his share of them. It also seems that his little brother has started his count of "racing incidents" also.
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cason402 2/14/2011 4:48am
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lodown wrote:
i'm not a Stewart fan, but you're a fool. It's a RACING INCIDENT. Sure, Stewart probably should have been a touch more cautious, but JT totally...
i'm not a Stewart fan, but you're a fool. It's a RACING INCIDENT. Sure, Stewart probably should have been a touch more cautious, but JT totally blew that section. I'm not suggesting it's JT's fault, per se, but had he even remotely done that section correctly, Stewart would not have plowed into his back tire. Stewart committed to his line not knowing that JT was gonna flub - JT I'm sure didn't want to hit that section the way he did. Again, RACING INCIDENT you f'in morons. I swear 99% of you people that come here to rant/complain/etc. probably have never raced in your lives - certainly not at a high level. And if you're wondering why I'm right in this instance (along with the others on this board that have wisely commented about it simply being a racing incident), the AMA will do nothing, b/c they SHOULD DO NOTHING.
do you think it helps or hinders your argument to start off calling the other guy a fool or f/n moron?

you say "Stewart probably should have been a touch more cautious"... isn't that what I and the majority of those disagreeing with you are saying?

you don't have to read into what we are saying and think we are saying your favorite rider is shit, because that's not what we are saying.

maybe we should just say it like you.... Stewart probably should have been a touch more cautious.
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txmxer 2/14/2011 5:19am
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R-acer wrote:
Some of you guys really just have a hate for Stewart. JT is the one who messed up here. He CASED doubling a TRIPLE. He didnt...
Some of you guys really just have a hate for Stewart.
JT is the one who messed up here. He CASED doubling a TRIPLE. He didnt even make the double. It is a racing incident, and if anything Stewart shouldnt be too upset, but as far as JT goes? he has nothing to be upset at, he caused that.
And this is why people dislike Stewart fans.
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seth505 2/14/2011 5:25am
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Vazscep wrote:
Had JT$ not screwed up, James would not have hit him. No one's fault. Hopefully this will shut the James haters up.

...but I doubt it.
wownd out wrote:
James should look ahead to where the hell he's going!
so this pretty much proves you have never touched a supercross track (on a bike)??

It's real easy to say "watch where you are going", yet in reality you are on the throttle to get your 450 over a set of jumps and as you are at a lip, the guy in front of you cases a double that you were about to triple...not real easy to back it down at that point.
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Mr. G 2/14/2011 7:38am
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txmxer wrote:
And this is why people dislike Stewart fans.
Which people and which fans? Is it an equal percentage of each or maybe 20%/40% or one of each or does it vary depending on the day? It could be an endless combination. The reason I ask is the people disliking and the people being disliked need to be prepared to withstand the dislike. It's very important.
GoldenState54 2/14/2011 7:50am
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I think I will stay consistent and say that I feel the same as when Nicoletti almost killed Morais.
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gmoneycrf450 2/14/2011 8:21am
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urbanlift707 wrote:
My question is if JT$ isn't pissed at stewey and seems to think it is a racing incident why do you all care so much?

http://www.pulpmx.com/podcasts/houston-sx-podcasts
nytsmaC wrote:
Because JT$ is a racer and knows this stuff happens. This board has no shortage of armchair quarterback ass clowns who don't know shit.
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txmxer 2/14/2011 8:23am
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txmxer wrote:
And this is why people dislike Stewart fans.
Mr. G wrote:
Which people and which fans? Is it an equal percentage of each or maybe 20%/40% or one of each or does it vary depending on the...
Which people and which fans? Is it an equal percentage of each or maybe 20%/40% or one of each or does it vary depending on the day? It could be an endless combination. The reason I ask is the people disliking and the people being disliked need to be prepared to withstand the dislike. It's very important.
what are you talking about?
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brianfagan9 2/14/2011 1:10pm
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I dont hate James Stewart but damn, what a dumbass. All of you knuckleheads on here who think that this was JT$'s fault must have never thrown a leg over a motorcycle. Let me get this correct, Jason is at fault for the idiot behind him making a foolish decision. Watch the damn video. I think the start was his fault as well. Watch closely all you James Stewart homers. Stewart gets distracted and looks to his right, then overcompensates and moves too far to the left and clips a tough block creating a chain reaction taking CR22 and Chris Blose out and throwing have the rest of the field off of the track. If you're a fan of JS7 fine, but don't try and act like this guy has no fault for anything going wrong on the track.
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kongols 2/14/2011 1:14pm
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brianfagan9 wrote:
I dont hate James Stewart but damn, what a dumbass. All of you knuckleheads on here who think that this was JT$'s fault must have never...
I dont hate James Stewart but damn, what a dumbass. All of you knuckleheads on here who think that this was JT$'s fault must have never thrown a leg over a motorcycle. Let me get this correct, Jason is at fault for the idiot behind him making a foolish decision. Watch the damn video. I think the start was his fault as well. Watch closely all you James Stewart homers. Stewart gets distracted and looks to his right, then overcompensates and moves too far to the left and clips a tough block creating a chain reaction taking CR22 and Chris Blose out and throwing have the rest of the field off of the track. If you're a fan of JS7 fine, but don't try and act like this guy has no fault for anything going wrong on the track.
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