ML512, why is the Vital forum becoming biased now?

Edited Date/Time 7/4/2026 3:28pm

Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to ask if Jett was cruising today is not a legitimate question to all those guys after all the nonsense lately?  

Why is bench racing being censored now?  Why not let everyone have a little fun like it used to be? 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/was-jett-cruising-again-today

 

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vital ain’t biased 😂😂 yal just going crazy picking  sides between the 2 & making smart ass comments defending/ criticizing each side , I hope everyone kno its ok to like both & call the race right down the middle 

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dhp_mma94 wrote:
vital ain’t biased 😂😂 yal just going crazy picking  sides between the 2 & making smart ass comments defending/ criticizing each side , I hope everyone...

vital ain’t biased 😂😂 yal just going crazy picking  sides between the 2 & making smart ass comments defending/ criticizing each side , I hope everyone kno its ok to like both & call the race right down the middle 

It appears it's okay to talk mad shit on Deegan, but you can't take a slight poke at the over the top Jett fans who have been hating on Deegan?

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7/4/2026 3:20pm Edited Date/Time 7/4/2026 3:23pm

We don't have unbiased Moto journalists. This is a cottage industry. Wanna be a journalist in this industry? Play ball like we tell you to or you're gone. Game over. 

You'll be the next Cooksie. Bye. 

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7/4/2026 3:21pm

Is Maverick still moderating here?  Because he has no problem with people talking smack on Deegan but once somebody take a jab at anyone/anything Jett it goes the dumbgeon. 

 I've never seen this type of bias for rider threads here, so I'm just wondering who's moderating and put that thread there, which should be perfectly fine staying here for some bench racing. 

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7/4/2026 3:21pm

I think the Deegan fan boys are odd. Kid talks way too much and is like a Mike Alessi with tattoos, his T Shirt at round one took me back to ‘believe the hype’. Slice it any way you want but Jett crashed twice today in race 2 and Haiden was only 30 seconds ahead, Jett won the first race and tied for 2nd overall.

It’s coming, he’s making ground, he’s improving, blah blah blah. Basic facts are he’s a 3rd place guy and today he got lucky. If there’s a fact other than that I’d be happy to hear it, but the kids still a little wiener 

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7/4/2026 3:23pm
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I think the Deegan fan boys are odd. Kid talks way too much and is like a Mike Alessi with tattoos, his T Shirt at round...

I think the Deegan fan boys are odd. Kid talks way too much and is like a Mike Alessi with tattoos, his T Shirt at round one took me back to ‘believe the hype’. Slice it any way you want but Jett crashed twice today in race 2 and Haiden was only 30 seconds ahead, Jett won the first race and tied for 2nd overall.

It’s coming, he’s making ground, he’s improving, blah blah blah. Basic facts are he’s a 3rd place guy and today he got lucky. If there’s a fact other than that I’d be happy to hear it, but the kids still a little wiener 

I understand why people don't like him due to character, it's not my style either.  But I don't let it get to me and I just like to give credit where credit is due when it comes to the racing.  He is exceeding expectations as a rookie IMO, and I don't let his antics cloud my vision of his performance on the track.

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Deegan beat Jett in Moto 2… There’s no disputing that. 

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dhp_mma94 wrote:
vital ain’t biased 😂😂 yal just going crazy picking  sides between the 2 & making smart ass comments defending/ criticizing each side , I hope everyone...

vital ain’t biased 😂😂 yal just going crazy picking  sides between the 2 & making smart ass comments defending/ criticizing each side , I hope everyone kno its ok to like both & call the race right down the middle 

It appears it's okay to talk mad shit on Deegan, but you can't take a slight poke at the over the top Jett fans who have...

It appears it's okay to talk mad shit on Deegan, but you can't take a slight poke at the over the top Jett fans who have been hating on Deegan?

deegs is getting all this is because he does this to himself with the way he acts , I’ve said numerous of times where i personally don’t care in fact just like 1 of my fav current ufc fighters who ppl deemed as very arrogant & cocky , just got his ass whooped 2 weeks ago & now ppl talking about he was never this good , his fighting career is ova etc….. is it a unlogical overreaction 🤔 yes but when u do the shit he was doing leading up to the fight & u get destroyed like he did then who can blame the backlash & reaction he’s getting , same thing in moto , deegs is & going to be fine but u gotta expect the reaction he’s getting 🤷🏾‍♂️ 

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I’m enjoying Jett being rattled , realizing that Big Brother closed the gap while he’s been out with injury. We saw the frustration in the podium layover area today after moto1, even though he ended up winning the moto. Then Jett making mistakes going down twice in moto 2 now that he can’t ride around in his comfort zone any longer. We/many thought the pressure would come from Danger Boy , the real shocker is that the pressure is coming from Big Brother Hunter. The excitement is building every week  and I personally love it all.

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7/4/2026 3:33pm

Another one moved to the dumbgeon?  Complete censorship now with a heavy rider bias I guess.  It's only cool to be able to talk heavy smack on Deegan, nothing else allowed here. 

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Is Maverick still moderating here?  Because he has no problem with people talking smack on Deegan but once somebody take a jab at anyone/anything Jett it...

Is Maverick still moderating here?  Because he has no problem with people talking smack on Deegan but once somebody take a jab at anyone/anything Jett it goes the dumbgeon. 

 I've never seen this type of bias for rider threads here, so I'm just wondering who's moderating and put that thread there, which should be perfectly fine staying here for some bench racing. 

FYI, plenty of threads bashing Deegan are in the Dumbgeon and I moved them there. Scroll down the list and you'll see. 

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7/4/2026 4:19pm
Is Maverick still moderating here?  Because he has no problem with people talking smack on Deegan but once somebody take a jab at anyone/anything Jett it...

Is Maverick still moderating here?  Because he has no problem with people talking smack on Deegan but once somebody take a jab at anyone/anything Jett it goes the dumbgeon. 

 I've never seen this type of bias for rider threads here, so I'm just wondering who's moderating and put that thread there, which should be perfectly fine staying here for some bench racing. 

-MAVERICK- wrote:

FYI, plenty of threads bashing Deegan are in the Dumbgeon and I moved them there. Scroll down the list and you'll see. 

Yeah and they littered this forum for a few weeks before they were finally flushed probably by someone else.  

But then you decided to flush this thread when there was absolutely no reason to other than your feelings got hurt?  What is wrong with asking the question and letting legitimate bench racing play out?  I've been hearing for weeks that Haiden was only close to Jett because Jett was "cruising".  You are letting all the other bench race talk stay because it's not against your favorite rider?  You should not be using your little button to censor here for personal satisfaction.  

You also flushed my other thread that had all the data that supported Haiden matched Jett's pace at High Point two.  There's quite the pattern here that you can't take anything pro Deegan or jabbing his haters.

There is no reason to be flushing the thread above and the thread below as they are perfectly legitimate.  You are skipping over what doesn't bother you personally:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/deegan-reality-vs-vital-narrative

 

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Yeah and they littered this forum for a few weeks before they were finally flushed probably by someone else.  But then you decided to flush this...

Yeah and they littered this forum for a few weeks before they were finally flushed probably by someone else.  

But then you decided to flush this thread when there was absolutely no reason to other than your feelings got hurt?  What is wrong with asking the question and letting legitimate bench racing play out?  I've been hearing for weeks that Haiden was only close to Jett because Jett was "cruising".  You are letting all the other bench race talk stay because it's not against your favorite rider?  You should not be using your little button to censor here for personal satisfaction.  

You also flushed my other thread that had all the data that supported Haiden matched Jett's pace at High Point two.  There's quite the pattern here that you can't take anything pro Deegan or jabbing his haters.

There is no reason to be flushing the thread above and the thread below as they are perfectly legitimate.  You are skipping over what doesn't bother you personally:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/deegan-reality-vs-vital-narrative

 

I flushed plenty of Deegan bashing thread. 

Here's something you probably don't know. Recently someone started a Deegan thread and ended up getting banned. 

If there was any bias, don't you think I would have left it up and just let it ride and see where it goes? 

Instead, I took it down, told ML about it and he shit canned the troll. 

So any bias you think exists, is in your head. 

Last thing, I don't work for Vital, so I don't spend all my time on here. I don't see everything that gets said/posted. I scan for certain things and take them down accordingly. 

I've reported plenty of users to ML about their behaviour and things they post and he allows them to continue posting. I don't have access to ban users, so there's not much I can do about that. If it were up to me there's a handful of guys that would be banned. 

BTW, my favorite rider is Ferrandis. 

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7/4/2026 5:01pm

My recent posts here have been aimed at all those over the top haters who've been allowed to do nothing but shit on riders, post after post.  A lot of it is coming from the Jett-is-God crowd hating on Deegan, claiming he's not even close.  Tons of over the line activity here in the last few weeks, and yes, I'm glad to see it finally got flushed.

But you seem to be targeting me because I"m sticking up for Deegan's performance and took a jab back at all the obnoxious haters.  99% of this forum is bench racing and shit talk, so there's no reason why my posts should be flushed other than bias.  If it was up to you, you would have banned me by now for doing nothing but addressing the haters with fact driven data, and then today asking if Jett was cruising after I've heard that excuse countless times this year.  

Threads should be flushed when over the top attacks ensue, not for starting a simple bench racing thread in response to all the haters around here.

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Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to...

Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to ask if Jett was cruising today is not a legitimate question to all those guys after all the nonsense lately?  

Why is bench racing being censored now?  Why not let everyone have a little fun like it used to be? 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/was-jett-cruising-again-today

 

You need a holiday please go on one

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Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to...

Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to ask if Jett was cruising today is not a legitimate question to all those guys after all the nonsense lately?  

Why is bench racing being censored now?  Why not let everyone have a little fun like it used to be? 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/was-jett-cruising-again-today

 

You should hang up and dial 9-1-1. It sounds like you’ve been horribly assaulted…

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Yeah and they littered this forum for a few weeks before they were finally flushed probably by someone else.  But then you decided to flush this...

Yeah and they littered this forum for a few weeks before they were finally flushed probably by someone else.  

But then you decided to flush this thread when there was absolutely no reason to other than your feelings got hurt?  What is wrong with asking the question and letting legitimate bench racing play out?  I've been hearing for weeks that Haiden was only close to Jett because Jett was "cruising".  You are letting all the other bench race talk stay because it's not against your favorite rider?  You should not be using your little button to censor here for personal satisfaction.  

You also flushed my other thread that had all the data that supported Haiden matched Jett's pace at High Point two.  There's quite the pattern here that you can't take anything pro Deegan or jabbing his haters.

There is no reason to be flushing the thread above and the thread below as they are perfectly legitimate.  You are skipping over what doesn't bother you personally:

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/deegan-reality-vs-vital-narrative

 

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I flushed plenty of Deegan bashing thread. Here's something you probably don't know. Recently someone started a Deegan thread and ended up getting banned. If there was any...

I flushed plenty of Deegan bashing thread. 

Here's something you probably don't know. Recently someone started a Deegan thread and ended up getting banned. 

If there was any bias, don't you think I would have left it up and just let it ride and see where it goes? 

Instead, I took it down, told ML about it and he shit canned the troll. 

So any bias you think exists, is in your head. 

Last thing, I don't work for Vital, so I don't spend all my time on here. I don't see everything that gets said/posted. I scan for certain things and take them down accordingly. 

I've reported plenty of users to ML about their behaviour and things they post and he allows them to continue posting. I don't have access to ban users, so there's not much I can do about that. If it were up to me there's a handful of guys that would be banned. 

BTW, my favorite rider is Ferrandis. 

I got banned for the 6th time for a trailer park boys quote.

What has happened to this place?

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7/5/2026 7:26am Edited Date/Time 7/5/2026 7:27am
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I got banned for the 6th time for a trailer park boys quote.

What has happened to this place?

I have no idea what you're talking about, so I can't help you there. I don't see a problem with Trailer Park Boys, but maybe someone else does. 

As mentioned, I don't have access to ban members, so that's in someone else. 

Edit: When did this happen?

7/5/2026 8:54am
Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to...

Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to ask if Jett was cruising today is not a legitimate question to all those guys after all the nonsense lately?  

Why is bench racing being censored now?  Why not let everyone have a little fun like it used to be? 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/was-jett-cruising-again-today

 

APLMAN99 wrote:

You should hang up and dial 9-1-1. It sounds like you’ve been horribly assaulted…

Men don't call 911 when they are assaulted, you sound weak.  

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7/5/2026 8:56am
Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to...

Numerous threads bashing on Deegan over the last few weeks and when Haiden finally matches Jett's pace it's only because Jett was "cruising".  But now to ask if Jett was cruising today is not a legitimate question to all those guys after all the nonsense lately?  

Why is bench racing being censored now?  Why not let everyone have a little fun like it used to be? 

https://www.vitalmx.com/forums/dumbgeon/was-jett-cruising-again-today

 

kiwifan wrote:

You need a holiday please go on one

My nickname is Holiday.  

Back to the topic, was Jett cruising yesterday?  I've yet to hear from all those who said he was causing for the last few weeks when Deegan was matching his pace.  I've already pointed out Jett does not cruise and if he did he sure wouldn't be almost throwing it away like Moto2 at High Point. So what happened?  

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Sandusky26 wrote:

I got banned for the 6th time for a trailer park boys quote.

What has happened to this place?

-MAVERICK- wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about, so I can't help you there. I don't see a problem with Trailer Park Boys, but maybe someone...

I have no idea what you're talking about, so I can't help you there. I don't see a problem with Trailer Park Boys, but maybe someone else does. 

As mentioned, I don't have access to ban members, so that's in someone else. 

Edit: When did this happen?

I think you should take a step back and look at what you are censoring and why.  This place has always been about bench racing and it comes with a ping pong effect.   You've been very okay with the weeks of bashing one rider, while glorifying the riders he's being compared to.  But once the almighty golden boy falls, you and all the rest of the guys have proven you can't take what you've been dishing out.

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Sandusky26 wrote:

I got banned for the 6th time for a trailer park boys quote.

What has happened to this place?

-MAVERICK- wrote:
I have no idea what you're talking about, so I can't help you there. I don't see a problem with Trailer Park Boys, but maybe someone...

I have no idea what you're talking about, so I can't help you there. I don't see a problem with Trailer Park Boys, but maybe someone else does. 

As mentioned, I don't have access to ban members, so that's in someone else. 

Edit: When did this happen?

It was last week, I'm guessing Deegan Realist must have reported me to ML. I have no beef with you, your one of the good ones on here.

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Any one know where @johnnyringo is at?

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Sandusky26 wrote:

Any one know where @johnnyringo is at?

He was one of the few around here who is un-triggered by Deegan's character and supported his good riding skills.  Hopefully that didn't affect his participation here.

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It was last week, I'm guessing Deegan Realist must have reported me to ML. I have no beef with you, your one of the good ones...

It was last week, I'm guessing Deegan Realist must have reported me to ML. I have no beef with you, your one of the good ones on here.

I don't know if he did or not, but I do know he's no longer posting. That said, I think he's already back under a different (DonJulio?). Nothing I can do about it. 

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I think you should take a step back and look at what you are censoring and why.  This place has always been about bench racing and...

I think you should take a step back and look at what you are censoring and why.  This place has always been about bench racing and it comes with a ping pong effect.   You've been very okay with the weeks of bashing one rider, while glorifying the riders he's being compared to.  But once the almighty golden boy falls, you and all the rest of the guys have proven you can't take what you've been dishing out.

You should take a step back, and relax. You don't need to blow a head gasket over it. It'll all be okay. 

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I think you should take a step back and look at what you are censoring and why.  This place has always been about bench racing and...

I think you should take a step back and look at what you are censoring and why.  This place has always been about bench racing and it comes with a ping pong effect.   You've been very okay with the weeks of bashing one rider, while glorifying the riders he's being compared to.  But once the almighty golden boy falls, you and all the rest of the guys have proven you can't take what you've been dishing out.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

You should take a step back, and relax. You don't need to blow a head gasket over it. It'll all be okay. 

You should tell yourself that when you get triggered by a thread that you don't like and decide to censor here.  This all started when you tried to claim I was making stuff up when I reported Jett's second surgery, and then pivoted when the news came out as if I should have included the surgeon's report with it.   Everyone knew Jett's ankle was injured, and I pointed out there was a setback with that injury.  It's a pretty easy paper trail to follow here now that since then you've been flushing my posts for no good reason other than you can't stand what I post here.

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It was last week, I'm guessing Deegan Realist must have reported me to ML. I have no beef with you, your one of the good ones...

It was last week, I'm guessing Deegan Realist must have reported me to ML. I have no beef with you, your one of the good ones on here.

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I don't know if he did or not, but I do know he's no longer posting. That said, I think he's already back under a different...

I don't know if he did or not, but I do know he's no longer posting. That said, I think he's already back under a different (DonJulio?). Nothing I can do about it. 

I think you are correct about Don Julio. A leopard can't change its spots, shit spots.

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I think you should take a step back and look at what you are censoring and why.  This place has always been about bench racing and...

I think you should take a step back and look at what you are censoring and why.  This place has always been about bench racing and it comes with a ping pong effect.   You've been very okay with the weeks of bashing one rider, while glorifying the riders he's being compared to.  But once the almighty golden boy falls, you and all the rest of the guys have proven you can't take what you've been dishing out.

-MAVERICK- wrote:

You should take a step back, and relax. You don't need to blow a head gasket over it. It'll all be okay. 

You should tell yourself that when you get triggered by a thread that you don't like and decide to censor here.  This all started when you...

You should tell yourself that when you get triggered by a thread that you don't like and decide to censor here.  This all started when you tried to claim I was making stuff up when I reported Jett's second surgery, and then pivoted when the news came out as if I should have included the surgeon's report with it.   Everyone knew Jett's ankle was injured, and I pointed out there was a setback with that injury.  It's a pretty easy paper trail to follow here now that since then you've been flushing my posts for no good reason other than you can't stand what I post here.

Good Christ you're fragile. Take a break for a bit, the Internet seems to be a bit too much for you.

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You should tell yourself that when you get triggered by a thread that you don't like and decide to censor here.  This all started when you...

You should tell yourself that when you get triggered by a thread that you don't like and decide to censor here.  This all started when you tried to claim I was making stuff up when I reported Jett's second surgery, and then pivoted when the news came out as if I should have included the surgeon's report with it.   Everyone knew Jett's ankle was injured, and I pointed out there was a setback with that injury.  It's a pretty easy paper trail to follow here now that since then you've been flushing my posts for no good reason other than you can't stand what I post here.

If you think I get triggered about the stuff that gets posted on here, you clearly don't know anything about me. You on the other hand have had a few meltdowns over your boy crush, defending everything and anything about him. I believe you even got benched a month or two ago over one of them. FYI, I had nothing to do with that. 

I never said you made shit up. I've explained it to you once already, and you didn't get it. That's a you problem. 

Again, the issue with your post was that you claimed to know something but didn't say what it was. You made a vague statement instead of stating what you knew as a fact. Comes off as "I know something, but I can't say." It's lame. 

I knew Deegan was signed with Fox and was moving under the 450 tent at the start of this year and I posted about it last May. I didn't make a vague post. What I've learned from it is that I won't post anything like that anymore. Not worth it. 

Guidelines:

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You seem to be focused on the last two lines instead of the first two lines. 

Believe me, if I wanted to tell someone to stop making shit up, I'd just tell them to stop making shit up. 

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