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It’s not the same when the season is wrapped up 🤷♂️ when sexton and Tomac went down to the wire it was all time… why?
And when it’s a blowout it’s a snoozer? Why?
Eli had 2 dnfs in 2020 outdoors right off the bat, you don’t think that changed his effort levels the remaining rounds?
So what you’re asking for is manufactured drama and excitement every year, every series. While I get the point what it ends up doing is making a sport a cheap circus sideshow version of itself. Yes every season may not be a tight points chase but you can’t manufacture that without gimmicks and bs that may end up not crowning who was actually the best guy all season. Let a tight points scenario happen naturally like it did in SX this year. We all appreciate it a lot more.
I do think it changed his mentality…The only thing left is to win as many races as you can…and they have all said that when it happens and I expect George to say the same…the sport doesn’t need any gimmies or redo’s to make it more exciting…I don’t believe we should change the rules because some fans favorite rider had some misfortune….
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So Tomac backing off when Herlings was here because he had a Championship to race for that now means Tomac is a pussy is what you say 🤦
Or take any triple crown race recently when it's enough with a third in final race.
Or, why not Roczen not putting up a fight with Sexton?
There isn't a single racer on earth right now that would jeopardize a championship for a win. Not a single one, no matter 15 races left or 2 races left.
You’re delusional…There are $100k+ reasons you are wrong….Where did I say anything about being a pussy…. and using the final race in a championship with a rider doing what he needs to do to cash a $1M+ check as to somehow back up your reasoning….Delusional…
Manufactured drama, is when you don't get to race about it all rounds. Having chains jump off, malfunctions, start crashes where you as a rider has no part in controlling what happens isn't really racing is it.
Isn't it? I think you don't have the slightest clue what racing is actually about.
That’s what makes moto standout — no throw away scores. It’s about attrition and making it to the end.
There is 1 million + sponsor bonuses on the line for every race left of the season for Lucas. It's his to lose. Every race is the last race for him from here on out.
He said it himself, going to US, he will not risk anything just to prove a point. He has the Championship to think about.
The did this in the GPs a long time ago, up to the early 70s I think, but because the bikes were so reliably unreliable then. They broke a lot. Don't think it's warranted today in a long series.
Doubt Lucas has any bonus clause in his contract for US races this year….so I’m not sure what point you're trying to make and what that has to do with you thinking its a good idea to have races not count if you have a bad day….but go ahead keep moving the goalposts because the majority disagrees…
That racers don't race if there is nothing in it for them, or a lot on the line to lose.
It goes directly to your point where you think those racers aren't the real deal for backing out. Which btw, is every real racer with any kind of brain.
If Herlings, Gajser, Febvre beats Lucas going fwd it will be with a astrix that Lucas has the Championship to think about and with a big lead its not worth pushing it. Explain how that leads to good racing.
Dude you are all over the place….I think your idea is dumb and so does everybody else….let it go…
I'm holding my line. You on the other hand. "It changes his mentality". But, it doesn't mean he back of and think big picture instead of pushing it? 🤷🤦
Agree to disagree here. If we had two or even three throw-away races and it meant that 50% more races during the year actually meant something, I'm all for it. Sacrifice 2 or 3, for 10. Easy choice.
If your point is to prove that your idea is because your favorite rider had a DNF…you’re doing a great job…like I said before everybody disagrees with you…take the loss and move on…as I am moving on from anymore discussion with you…✌🏻
Everyone does not disagree…. 👋
Anaheim 1 has throw away races?
Since when?
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The real question should be , how can a 4 time world champ, only get to 13th in a field that half of you couldnt pick out of a lineout.
He didnt even crash.
And he got a do over for his shit start, and did the exact same thing again.
From that gate , you cut across the back every single time.
This is the same place Sexton went from Last to win, on the same bike.
Look at the lap chart, its woeful .
Sexton almost died like 25 times that moto. Was it really worth it?
Since when does A1 beat MxoN?
If he’s out of the championship that’s on Prado bad gate pick or not, no way would one of the contenders get a 13th in a moto because “they had a bad gate pick”. He would be out of the championship because he needs to be better going through the pack. Pretty sure sexton went from last to 1st on that terrible KTM at hangtown.
"racers don't race if there is nothing in it for them, or a lot on the line to lose"
I have a feeling you actually believe this which is kind of sad and embarrassing. You're on a forum with a bunch of weekend warriors that go hard with nothing in it for them* and a lot on the line to lose.
*Pride is a thing, but I don't expect you to relate
Holy shit
Showed it before the gate dropped, starting with Friese on the inside and a rut with that hook going right you knew he was fucked. Maybe if they fixed the complete start straight as in MXGP it could have worked.
Prado has never been a good passer.
It’s low iq race craft. He really almost wrecked dozens of times. It was crazy to watch. If he wrecks and ended the season was it worth it?
Was the pass he attempted on Webb in that triple crown worth it?
When you posted that he started this thread because his boy had a DNF I was like no I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt….but no you nailed it…
I don't have to believe. You would have needed to not been watching the passed years of racing to just not know this is fact.
Take most of the third races in triple crown, it is well known they mail it in if they don't need to make passes to still win or secure a podium.
Tomac when Herlings was over. Ken Roczen letting Chase by in final race. MXoN, not going if you don't have a team that can win.
You think Webb is all in right now? A ninth is the best he can do with a holeshot, a former 250 champ? He is riding out his contract.
You live in a very fluffy pink world if you believe that racers always race to win or do their absolute best 😄
This discussion started when Herlings and Coenen derailed chains, later Vialle crashing out on the start.
And if you look closely, it was posted after Herlings DNF. Could have posted it already Saturday if it was that important after Prado not qualifying.
I know you don't follow MXGP, but at least make an effort.
While I can appreciate wanting to help keep a tighter championship for longer. And the excitement that brings. I don't know that I like the throwaways Idea. Right now the guy that wins has the best combination of speed, luck and finishes. I wouldn't say Prado's hopes are gone, look how far kenny came back from when it looked like Hunter was just gonna cruise to the title. Its moto and anything can happen. Although bad luck is less common for the Lawrences outdoors, things can and have happened in the past.
I guess it can turn into a boring season. But there is always still a race for the overall winner of the race. And sometimes the strategy for the winner of the title is to play it safe anyway. Not going for a win if they do not have to. And sometimes You'll get riders who are longshots for the title that decide they want to win as many races as possible and that results in some better racing too. Giving the racers more incentive to race sounds like the way to keep it exciting.
Yah its cool to see who wins the title. But the real excitement comes from guys wanting to win each individual race. The carrot for most is the title. Perhaps some more carrots are what is needed to keep guys racing and racing for wins not just cruising around the track
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