Trump unharmed after security incident at White House correspondents' dinner

ToolMaker wrote:

Have a 7 minute listen from 23 min-30 min. Pay attention after the 25 min mark. Now this is funny because this aired after I was...

Have a 7 minute listen from 23 min-30 min. Pay attention after the 25 min mark. Now this is funny because this aired after I was telling you it made no sense, there was no basis for you bringing up "shooter could have been there to shoot the press". I just had to laugh my ass off during this segment. Because it's just so predictable watching libs try to divert the attention away from the real answer with unrelated bs alternatives.

https://rumble.com/v7940b0-the-real-insider-threat-ep.-2504-04282026.html?start=1376

 

early wrote:

If only dan bongino had a job that he could investigate these threats in an official government role and not just talk shit for clicks.

ToolMaker wrote:

If only he had the creds that while he was doing that job you speak of, ALL crime stats went down because they actually did the...

If only he had the creds that while he was doing that job you speak of, ALL crime stats went down because they actually did the job.

Hmmm

early wrote:

If only dan bongino had a job that he could investigate these threats in an official government role and not just talk shit for clicks.

ToolMaker wrote:

If only he had the creds that while he was doing that job you speak of, ALL crime stats went down because they actually did the...

If only he had the creds that while he was doing that job you speak of, ALL crime stats went down because they actually did the job.

Hmmm

early wrote:

Cheers toolman

Cheers toolman

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being...

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being a piece of shit.

But here’s the part you keep skipping: that standard has to work both ways.

Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were murdered in what federal prosecutors called targeted political assassinations. The indictment says the shooter went to the homes of Democratic elected officials intending to intimidate and murder them.

So if minimizing violence against Trump makes someone a piece of shit, then still running the 'leftists are the violent ones' script after the Hortman murders should make you one too, correct?. Same standard?  Or is actually being killed somehow not as violent?

Political violence is bad when Trump is the target. It is bad when Democratic lawmakers are the target. It is bad when a lunatic goes after Pelosi’s husband. It is bad when a mob attacks the Capitol and beats cops while hunting politicians.

The difference is, some of us can say all of that without needing to check the jersey first.

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

early wrote:

Violence like this is a reality of America, you can get shot at any time of any day, doesn't matter if you are the president. We...

Violence like this is a reality of America, you can get shot at any time of any day, doesn't matter if you are the president. We should absolutely not treat this any more seriously than a school shooting.

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being...

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being a piece of shit.

But here’s the part you keep skipping: that standard has to work both ways.

Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were murdered in what federal prosecutors called targeted political assassinations. The indictment says the shooter went to the homes of Democratic elected officials intending to intimidate and murder them.

So if minimizing violence against Trump makes someone a piece of shit, then still running the 'leftists are the violent ones' script after the Hortman murders should make you one too, correct?. Same standard?  Or is actually being killed somehow not as violent?

Political violence is bad when Trump is the target. It is bad when Democratic lawmakers are the target. It is bad when a lunatic goes after Pelosi’s husband. It is bad when a mob attacks the Capitol and beats cops while hunting politicians.

The difference is, some of us can say all of that without needing to check the jersey first.

truck wrote:

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and...

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? 

It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and years of people talking about taking them out. There wasn't prior attempts where people said they wished the shooter hadn't missed.

The violence was there, but the culture totally encouraging, dismissing, joking about, etc that event doesn't exist. If anything, the right's reaction to that event is what I'm asking for on the left. Not dismissed. Not explained away. Just condemned. 

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

early wrote:

Violence like this is a reality of America, you can get shot at any time of any day, doesn't matter if you are the president. We...

Violence like this is a reality of America, you can get shot at any time of any day, doesn't matter if you are the president. We should absolutely not treat this any more seriously than a school shooting.

truck wrote:

Politically motivated assassination is absolutely not a normal part of American life. And nobody is going around saying they wish the school shooters would have been...

Politically motivated assassination is absolutely not a normal part of American life. And nobody is going around saying they wish the school shooters would have been better shots. These kind of false equivalencies are absurd and just excuses to avoid condemning something that should be very easy to condemn. Just shows how deep the hate runs. It's sad. 

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being...

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being a piece of shit.

But here’s the part you keep skipping: that standard has to work both ways.

Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were murdered in what federal prosecutors called targeted political assassinations. The indictment says the shooter went to the homes of Democratic elected officials intending to intimidate and murder them.

So if minimizing violence against Trump makes someone a piece of shit, then still running the 'leftists are the violent ones' script after the Hortman murders should make you one too, correct?. Same standard?  Or is actually being killed somehow not as violent?

Political violence is bad when Trump is the target. It is bad when Democratic lawmakers are the target. It is bad when a lunatic goes after Pelosi’s husband. It is bad when a mob attacks the Capitol and beats cops while hunting politicians.

The difference is, some of us can say all of that without needing to check the jersey first.

truck wrote:

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and...

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? 

It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and years of people talking about taking them out. There wasn't prior attempts where people said they wished the shooter hadn't missed.

The violence was there, but the culture totally encouraging, dismissing, joking about, etc that event doesn't exist. If anything, the right's reaction to that event is what I'm asking for on the left. Not dismissed. Not explained away. Just condemned. 

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being...

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being a piece of shit.

But here’s the part you keep skipping: that standard has to work both ways.

Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were murdered in what federal prosecutors called targeted political assassinations. The indictment says the shooter went to the homes of Democratic elected officials intending to intimidate and murder them.

So if minimizing violence against Trump makes someone a piece of shit, then still running the 'leftists are the violent ones' script after the Hortman murders should make you one too, correct?. Same standard?  Or is actually being killed somehow not as violent?

Political violence is bad when Trump is the target. It is bad when Democratic lawmakers are the target. It is bad when a lunatic goes after Pelosi’s husband. It is bad when a mob attacks the Capitol and beats cops while hunting politicians.

The difference is, some of us can say all of that without needing to check the jersey first.

truck wrote:

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and...

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? 

It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and years of people talking about taking them out. There wasn't prior attempts where people said they wished the shooter hadn't missed.

The violence was there, but the culture totally encouraging, dismissing, joking about, etc that event doesn't exist. If anything, the right's reaction to that event is what I'm asking for on the left. Not dismissed. Not explained away. Just condemned. 

R66 wrote:

Anybody hear Jimmy Kimmel say Melanie was glowing like an expecting widow? 

MXMattii wrote:

Yes and it wasn't a good joke. It is understandable that they wanna show, every night again all the things this president is doing. But it...

Yes and it wasn't a good joke. It is understandable that they wanna show, every night again all the things this president is doing. But it feels a bit lazy too. For the next three years you know for sure that he is going to be a tree of rude brutality, crazy decisions and even crazier statements and tweets that well keep on giving.

SKlein wrote:

It was also said two days before the shooting occurred, if context matters.

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being...

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being a piece of shit.

But here’s the part you keep skipping: that standard has to work both ways.

Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were murdered in what federal prosecutors called targeted political assassinations. The indictment says the shooter went to the homes of Democratic elected officials intending to intimidate and murder them.

So if minimizing violence against Trump makes someone a piece of shit, then still running the 'leftists are the violent ones' script after the Hortman murders should make you one too, correct?. Same standard?  Or is actually being killed somehow not as violent?

Political violence is bad when Trump is the target. It is bad when Democratic lawmakers are the target. It is bad when a lunatic goes after Pelosi’s husband. It is bad when a mob attacks the Capitol and beats cops while hunting politicians.

The difference is, some of us can say all of that without needing to check the jersey first.

truck wrote:

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and...

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? 

It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and years of people talking about taking them out. There wasn't prior attempts where people said they wished the shooter hadn't missed.

The violence was there, but the culture totally encouraging, dismissing, joking about, etc that event doesn't exist. If anything, the right's reaction to that event is what I'm asking for on the left. Not dismissed. Not explained away. Just condemned. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Murder attempt on Nancy Pelosi? 

truck wrote:

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left...

If you want to argue that both sides suck and say vile things, that's fair, but the extent to which the vile things on the left have been normalized and institutionalized has no comparison on the right. Fox News doesn't carry the same weight as every other media company combined, universities, big business, etc etc etc......

And if you want to say both sides have gotten too comfortable with talking about political violence, OK....

But the reality is that the current president has had multiple very real attempts on his life now. As a lefty, after that happens, if you're still playing the whataboutism game and arguing the both sides thing instead of saying hey maybe me and my side should tone it down a little before this guy is actually assassinated, you're a piece of shit and there's just no way around it. Someone was literally shot and some of you want to argue well actually maybe it was just shrapnel and the other side says mean things too, instead of just personally committing to not sharing or endorsing the vile comments. Doesn't seem like a big ask but here we are. So yeah, the level of discourse is all trump's fault.... he's totally the cause and not just a reflection of us..... 

early wrote:

Violence like this is a reality of America, you can get shot at any time of any day, doesn't matter if you are the president. We...

Violence like this is a reality of America, you can get shot at any time of any day, doesn't matter if you are the president. We should absolutely not treat this any more seriously than a school shooting.

truck wrote:

Politically motivated assassination is absolutely not a normal part of American life. And nobody is going around saying they wish the school shooters would have been...

Politically motivated assassination is absolutely not a normal part of American life. And nobody is going around saying they wish the school shooters would have been better shots. These kind of false equivalencies are absurd and just excuses to avoid condemning something that should be very easy to condemn. Just shows how deep the hate runs. It's sad. 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being...

Truck, I’m good with condemning assassination attempts on Trump. Easy call. Anyone laughing it off or playing the 'well actually, shrapnel' game is most probably being a piece of shit.

But here’s the part you keep skipping: that standard has to work both ways.

Melissa Hortman and her husband Mark were murdered in what federal prosecutors called targeted political assassinations. The indictment says the shooter went to the homes of Democratic elected officials intending to intimidate and murder them.

So if minimizing violence against Trump makes someone a piece of shit, then still running the 'leftists are the violent ones' script after the Hortman murders should make you one too, correct?. Same standard?  Or is actually being killed somehow not as violent?

Political violence is bad when Trump is the target. It is bad when Democratic lawmakers are the target. It is bad when a lunatic goes after Pelosi’s husband. It is bad when a mob attacks the Capitol and beats cops while hunting politicians.

The difference is, some of us can say all of that without needing to check the jersey first.

truck wrote:

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and...

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? 

It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and years of people talking about taking them out. There wasn't prior attempts where people said they wished the shooter hadn't missed.

The violence was there, but the culture totally encouraging, dismissing, joking about, etc that event doesn't exist. If anything, the right's reaction to that event is what I'm asking for on the left. Not dismissed. Not explained away. Just condemned. 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, you asked where the “years and years” of this stuff exists on the right.Two words: Clinton body count.For decades, right-wing media and politicians have joked...

Truck, you asked where the “years and years” of this stuff exists on the right.

Two words: Clinton body count.

For decades, right-wing media and politicians have joked, hinted, and outright claimed that Bill and Hillary Clinton murder people. Trump shared that garbage again in 2025. Trump pushed the Epstein/Clinton murder theory in 2019. Newt Gingrich pushed the Seth Rich ‘apparently assassinated’ line. Hannity and Fox pushed Seth Rich so hard Fox had to retract the story. Huckabee joked that he opposed the Clintons and ‘lived to tell about it’.

So spare us the idea that this is some one-way sickness.

If someone jokes about Trump getting shot, they’re garbage.

If someone spends thirty years telling people Democratic politicians murder their enemies, they’re also garbage.

The difference is you notice one because it hits your side, and you memory-hole the other because it came from your side.

truck wrote:

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and...

Where's the list of celebrities, pundits, etc joking about that event? How many well known people cheered it on? 

It was universally condemned. There wasn't years and years of people talking about taking them out. There wasn't prior attempts where people said they wished the shooter hadn't missed.

The violence was there, but the culture totally encouraging, dismissing, joking about, etc that event doesn't exist. If anything, the right's reaction to that event is what I'm asking for on the left. Not dismissed. Not explained away. Just condemned. 

APLMAN99 wrote:

Truck, you asked where the “years and years” of this stuff exists on the right.Two words: Clinton body count.For decades, right-wing media and politicians have joked...

Truck, you asked where the “years and years” of this stuff exists on the right.

Two words: Clinton body count.

For decades, right-wing media and politicians have joked, hinted, and outright claimed that Bill and Hillary Clinton murder people. Trump shared that garbage again in 2025. Trump pushed the Epstein/Clinton murder theory in 2019. Newt Gingrich pushed the Seth Rich ‘apparently assassinated’ line. Hannity and Fox pushed Seth Rich so hard Fox had to retract the story. Huckabee joked that he opposed the Clintons and ‘lived to tell about it’.

So spare us the idea that this is some one-way sickness.

If someone jokes about Trump getting shot, they’re garbage.

If someone spends thirty years telling people Democratic politicians murder their enemies, they’re also garbage.

The difference is you notice one because it hits your side, and you memory-hole the other because it came from your side.

truck wrote:

I don't have a team. You're right, the right has joked about the Clintons killing people. While this is obviously another example of how stupid the level...

I don't have a team. 

You're right, the right has joked about the Clintons killing people. While this is obviously another example of how stupid the level of discourse has gotten, it's not the same thing as encouraging the Clintons to kill people. Talking about a thing that you believe has happened is not the same thing as advocating for a thing to happen. Both things might be wrong, stupid, embarrassing, all of those things..... but they are not the same thing. 

Just look at what you're arguing..... simply stating "people shouldn't joke about killing the president and this should be clear after the third attempt at killing him" has you pushing back with a bunch of whataboutism. Why is it so hard to just agree with that very simple premise?