I've wondered if JS got the Holeshot

TbonesPop 1/15/2011 11:53pm
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James was playing the fiddle!
I was there in person, RV was puttin down the laps and making up time/catching JS7 for sure when he washed out. If he doesn't wash the front end out, that would have been an epic battle the rest of the way. And to make statements like JS7 was just cruising or managing the race, it's simply denial.

These two guys stay healthy, and this season is going to PHENOMINAL!
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kongols 1/15/2011 11:56pm
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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
But week ago you said it was Anaheim 1?
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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
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But week ago you said it was Anaheim 1?
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
If James wins the title you will probably punch yourself until you black out.


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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
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If James wins the title you will probably punch yourself until you black out.


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If James proves me wrong then good for him. Anyone who wins the title this year really, really has to earn it. In all honesty, Im rooting for anyone not named James or Chad. They are both great racers, but Im ready to see some new faces take over the sport.
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FlaNard wrote:
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out...
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
Check lap times. I don`t want to argue or say stupid stuff like that just yet. I`ll wait till round six. It should be all clear by then.
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FlaNard wrote:
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out...
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
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Check lap times. I don`t want to argue or say stupid stuff like that just yet. I`ll wait till round six. It should be all clear...
Check lap times. I don`t want to argue or say stupid stuff like that just yet. I`ll wait till round six. It should be all clear by then.
Ive seen the lap times for the main. Ryan was faster.
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FlaNard wrote:
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out...
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
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Check lap times. I don`t want to argue or say stupid stuff like that just yet. I`ll wait till round six. It should be all clear...
Check lap times. I don`t want to argue or say stupid stuff like that just yet. I`ll wait till round six. It should be all clear by then.
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Ive seen the lap times for the main. Ryan was faster.
I give up.
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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
And so far this year, RV only wins when Stewart gets shitty starts... Whats youre point?
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kongols wrote:
Check lap times. I don`t want to argue or say stupid stuff like that just yet. I`ll wait till round six. It should be all clear...
Check lap times. I don`t want to argue or say stupid stuff like that just yet. I`ll wait till round six. It should be all clear by then.
FlaNard wrote:
Ive seen the lap times for the main. Ryan was faster.
kongols wrote:
I give up.
Good, your argument sucked ass.
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FlaNard wrote:
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out...
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
Totally agree. Really stoked for RV.

RC keeps saying the only way he beat Stewart was by pressuring him into mistakes, RV just seems like the perfect racer to tap into that weak spot and grind him down. He seems so tenacious and self confident, no respect for the old guard and no intimidation. And all after coming back from that injury!

Man... imagine the war if Stewart rides outdoors!
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FlaNard wrote:
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out...
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
FlaNard, do you have facebook? Your replies on here are consistently some of the most brilliant things I read on VitalMX. I would just love to chat with you more, not to sound gay or anything...

But anyways, RV was on it tonight! From what I saw, James got the holeshot and took the lead. RV was in 4th or 5th, quickly moved through the pack, and reeled in James Stewart within one lap.
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kongols 1/16/2011 1:38am
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FlaNard, do you have facebook? Your replies on here are consistently some of the most brilliant things I read on VitalMX. I would just love to...
FlaNard, do you have facebook? Your replies on here are consistently some of the most brilliant things I read on VitalMX. I would just love to chat with you more, not to sound gay or anything...

But anyways, RV was on it tonight! From what I saw, James got the holeshot and took the lead. RV was in 4th or 5th, quickly moved through the pack, and reeled in James Stewart within one lap.
Add Jsloan and you`ll be three muscetiers. I like how , no matter what, you see it as a advantage for your favorite rider. Keep up the optimism.
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FlaNard wrote:
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out...
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
Hank_Thrill wrote:
FlaNard, do you have facebook? Your replies on here are consistently some of the most brilliant things I read on VitalMX. I would just love to...
FlaNard, do you have facebook? Your replies on here are consistently some of the most brilliant things I read on VitalMX. I would just love to chat with you more, not to sound gay or anything...

But anyways, RV was on it tonight! From what I saw, James got the holeshot and took the lead. RV was in 4th or 5th, quickly moved through the pack, and reeled in James Stewart within one lap.
I dont have a Facebook, but thanks Hank. Always feel free to hit me up with a pm if you wanna chat. And not to sound gay, but I love your show. You have no idea how pissed off I was when they killed off Cotton! Laughing
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I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out...
I said it was the changing of the guard. Which in my opinion, it was. Tonight proved that. Yes he won, but he also found out that at least one guy can run him down and sit on him waiting for a mistake. I'll put it this way, in the battle of confidence, tonight did a whole lot more for RV then it did for James. James knows he has a guy who can match his speed and can get a start. Ryan knows he is that guy. James has never had to deal with that in Supercross. Only in the Nationals. We all know how the constant pressure worked out there for James. From here on out, Ryan will never accept that he is slower then James.
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Totally agree. Really stoked for RV. RC keeps saying the only way he beat Stewart was by pressuring him into mistakes, RV just seems like the...
Totally agree. Really stoked for RV.

RC keeps saying the only way he beat Stewart was by pressuring him into mistakes, RV just seems like the perfect racer to tap into that weak spot and grind him down. He seems so tenacious and self confident, no respect for the old guard and no intimidation. And all after coming back from that injury!

Man... imagine the war if Stewart rides outdoors!
Man... imagine the war if Stewart rides outdoors!

RV vs James for 24 motos would be about the most epic thing I can think of. I hope it happens.
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I dont have a Facebook, but thanks Hank. Always feel free to hit me up with a pm if you wanna chat. And not to sound...
I dont have a Facebook, but thanks Hank. Always feel free to hit me up with a pm if you wanna chat. And not to sound gay, but I love your show. You have no idea how pissed off I was when they killed off Cotton! Laughing
HAHAHA! I just laughed so hard from that Cotton remark! As was I, as was I...
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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
As I seen it, Ryan caught James a little, but James heard him but was not worried..


Ryan lost the mental war right here by riding over his head to try to keep up with James who we know was not pushing it.



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@yamazuki Yawwn. You are flogging a dead, bias, retarded horse.
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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
I would look at it more like Stewart forced RV into that crash. The pace was a little to much tonite for RV. Stewart was just cruising around out there..

If anyone can get a pass on Stewart it will be RV. He is not afraid to crash and that's what it takes to beat Stewart. The shitter of the whole deal is Stewart has only been passed ONCE in his career during the race.

I can't wait for these guys get out east where they can get some traction.
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So James comes from 12 or worse at Anaheim and gets third but everyone says he got tired. And tonight RV comes from fourth or fifth and rides in second, closes up and then loses some time and crashes. And he is said to be faster and able to catch James when ever he wants? Well he might have made up some time but he didn't make a pass and thats what matters. Check the lap times, I do think james kept opening up the gap as the race went on.

What excuse will be made for that by the RV2 fans? He knew he couldn't win? he knew he would have to ride over his head to try and catch up to James???

Kind of sounds like what happened at A1 if you ask me. Lets see who is the champ at the end of the year and then see who did what.

No WAR was won tonight so don't get ahead of yourself UNCLEof2. The battle is tied and I can bet those two will want to have another crack at it before this is all said and done.
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FroDiddy 1/16/2011 2:58am
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Uncleof2 wrote:
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won...
if Ryan would be able to catch James, and now we all know the answer. James won the race tonite, but in Ryan's head he won the war. I'm so excited for the races where he doesn't crash. So far this year James only wins when RV2 crashes.
If you think so. It was clear to RC that James was running just fast enough to be out front. If anything, Stewart invited a challenge from RV that never came. Not saying RV couldn't have pushed the pace a bit more, but he was waiting for a mistake from James without any real pressure. Stewart wasn't pushing it, he said as much in the post race interview.
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It was pretty cool to see RV close up on James but that was a slick track and James was smart not to push it in the corners as RC pointed out.
I think we are going to see some good racing with these two and as Trey continues gaining confidence it would be cool to see him up in the battle as well.
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RV is leading the championship points race . He was sick , passed a few guys , caught up with james , set the fastest lap on the night and he looked faster than he he did at
A-1 . RV has what it takes to run James down and pass him and it will happen soon . RV is getting faster all the time , that's his method of operation . When RV gets beat he comes back more determined , faster and smarter . He had a real bad injury last year , a long time off the bike , came back in shape , has the speed to win and once again is leading the points going into next week . Its a long season and its going to be a good one .
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So as the series goes on, everyone is going to get faster except James? They will ALL get faster. James hasnt raced SX for exactly 1 year. Wait until he gets in his grove. Expect 10 or more wins
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Wait till RV gets his grove .
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Wait till RV gets his grove .
I know... he should be able to stay ahead of Dungey all season long Wink
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RV is not considered a SX specialist by many , but is leading the points right now .

One thing for sure , you won't see James racing the National series this year .
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So as the series goes on, everyone is going to get faster except James? They will ALL get faster. James hasnt raced SX for exactly 1...
So as the series goes on, everyone is going to get faster except James? They will ALL get faster. James hasnt raced SX for exactly 1 year. Wait until he gets in his grove. Expect 10 or more wins
Bingo.

Not sure about the 10 or more wins part, but you nailed the rest.
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Maybe Phoenix represents Stewart's new approach to racing: fast, yet conservative. RC noticed James' lack of aggression in the corners, and most of us were probably thinking the same thing. In fact, when Villipoto closed the gap so quickly, images of Unadilla '02 flashed across my mind. (Except no one is brave/dumb enough to give up a position in SX).

Stewart is one of a few, perhaps the only, rider that spectators can actually see click it into that "top gear". His riding style changes (more body english), corners are aggressively attacked, and nearly every jump is scrubbed. It's what allowed him to close a 2 second gap at A1 last year in less than 2 laps, but I didn't see that "gear" last night.

RV showed tremendous potential last night, but in the end, failed to close the deal. Ryan might even catch & pass James this year, but I'm not sure he can make it stick.

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