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8k4x6f 1/15/2011 10:03pm
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What kinda question is that? You line up to win, not say "well im betting that the two guys who are my biggest comp. crash, so im not gonna try". its not a night out at the casino.
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Racer111 1/15/2011 10:04pm
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`ol Ger wrote:
He'll be there in Vegas.
So will JTMoney, but that doesn't mean he is going to win a title!! Tongue
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Mod Killer 1/15/2011 10:06pm
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racer111, lets give dungey the benefit of the doubt. until proven otherwise....im gonna stick to believing he has another gear. its only race 2. yes, if...
racer111, lets give dungey the benefit of the doubt.

until proven otherwise....im gonna stick to believing he has another gear. its only race 2.

yes, if it hits race 9, and hes down 48 pts, he's in trouble. but bubba and rv still have to keep it on two wheels.

"smart" is going to win this title. not just raw speed. and so far, all of the big 5 have proven to show they can ride smart. but someone will lose their patience and blink first. that gamble will either pay off in spades, or cost em a race. we will just have to wait and see.
Racer111 wrote:
If we are going in to week 5 and Dungey is just barely on the podium or just getting a whiff of it and landing 4th...
If we are going in to week 5 and Dungey is just barely on the podium or just getting a whiff of it and landing 4th or 5th the next 2 weeks, psychologically, I think he will be done. We got a glimpse of this RD last year when RV started peeling off wins left and right.

And other than RV looking a little impatient to get around Stewart tonight and going down, he and James just look to be faster and smoother. Remember, James and RV are probably not running at A game pace yet either.
good points.



but all it takes is two or three races of reed, canard, and dungey sweeping the podium....and any lead that rv and bubba are amassing at the moment is dust. thats not a unrealistic scenario on the right night/track all things considered.



throw in the fact that the H&H and JGR bikes are very competitive, they are private teams, so they arent going to be taking any team orders from above, so they will always be there on the starts. making it very difficult to run thru the pack if 2 or 7 dont get great starts.



its just too early to draw any conclusions. nobody has shown us anything we didnt already know before the season started except for maybe canard. who we were unsure if he was a contender. he's proven he is. other than that, nothing new has occurred...no conclusions about setup or health should be drawn. especially with dungey considering how short his career is, we have very little to sample from.
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8k4x6f 1/15/2011 10:10pm
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Mod, your right about early in the season. But theses guys dont get paid to "wait".Of course dunge will be around,he is #1. Its just a different game this year

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racer111, lets give dungey the benefit of the doubt. until proven otherwise....im gonna stick to believing he has another gear. its only race 2. yes, if...
racer111, lets give dungey the benefit of the doubt.

until proven otherwise....im gonna stick to believing he has another gear. its only race 2.

yes, if it hits race 9, and hes down 48 pts, he's in trouble. but bubba and rv still have to keep it on two wheels.

"smart" is going to win this title. not just raw speed. and so far, all of the big 5 have proven to show they can ride smart. but someone will lose their patience and blink first. that gamble will either pay off in spades, or cost em a race. we will just have to wait and see.
Racer111 wrote:
If we are going in to week 5 and Dungey is just barely on the podium or just getting a whiff of it and landing 4th...
If we are going in to week 5 and Dungey is just barely on the podium or just getting a whiff of it and landing 4th or 5th the next 2 weeks, psychologically, I think he will be done. We got a glimpse of this RD last year when RV started peeling off wins left and right.

And other than RV looking a little impatient to get around Stewart tonight and going down, he and James just look to be faster and smoother. Remember, James and RV are probably not running at A game pace yet either.
Mod Killer wrote:
good points. but all it takes is two or three races of reed, canard, and dungey sweeping the podium....and any lead that rv and bubba are...
good points.



but all it takes is two or three races of reed, canard, and dungey sweeping the podium....and any lead that rv and bubba are amassing at the moment is dust. thats not a unrealistic scenario on the right night/track all things considered.



throw in the fact that the H&H and JGR bikes are very competitive, they are private teams, so they arent going to be taking any team orders from above, so they will always be there on the starts. making it very difficult to run thru the pack if 2 or 7 dont get great starts.



its just too early to draw any conclusions. nobody has shown us anything we didnt already know before the season started except for maybe canard. who we were unsure if he was a contender. he's proven he is. other than that, nothing new has occurred...no conclusions about setup or health should be drawn. especially with dungey considering how short his career is, we have very little to sample from.
Yeah...I'm thinking Trey could be a real sleeper in this thing before it's all over with. But for shear hunger....JS and RV appear to have gotten out of the gates with fire in there eyes. All top 5-6 guys running 50 sec+ times....I like it! Wink
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Racer111 1/15/2011 10:15pm
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Mod Killer wrote:
racer111, lets give dungey the benefit of the doubt. until proven otherwise....im gonna stick to believing he has another gear. its only race 2. yes, if...
racer111, lets give dungey the benefit of the doubt.

until proven otherwise....im gonna stick to believing he has another gear. its only race 2.

yes, if it hits race 9, and hes down 48 pts, he's in trouble. but bubba and rv still have to keep it on two wheels.

"smart" is going to win this title. not just raw speed. and so far, all of the big 5 have proven to show they can ride smart. but someone will lose their patience and blink first. that gamble will either pay off in spades, or cost em a race. we will just have to wait and see.
Racer111 wrote:
If we are going in to week 5 and Dungey is just barely on the podium or just getting a whiff of it and landing 4th...
If we are going in to week 5 and Dungey is just barely on the podium or just getting a whiff of it and landing 4th or 5th the next 2 weeks, psychologically, I think he will be done. We got a glimpse of this RD last year when RV started peeling off wins left and right.

And other than RV looking a little impatient to get around Stewart tonight and going down, he and James just look to be faster and smoother. Remember, James and RV are probably not running at A game pace yet either.
Mod Killer wrote:
good points. but all it takes is two or three races of reed, canard, and dungey sweeping the podium....and any lead that rv and bubba are...
good points.



but all it takes is two or three races of reed, canard, and dungey sweeping the podium....and any lead that rv and bubba are amassing at the moment is dust. thats not a unrealistic scenario on the right night/track all things considered.



throw in the fact that the H&H and JGR bikes are very competitive, they are private teams, so they arent going to be taking any team orders from above, so they will always be there on the starts. making it very difficult to run thru the pack if 2 or 7 dont get great starts.



its just too early to draw any conclusions. nobody has shown us anything we didnt already know before the season started except for maybe canard. who we were unsure if he was a contender. he's proven he is. other than that, nothing new has occurred...no conclusions about setup or health should be drawn. especially with dungey considering how short his career is, we have very little to sample from.
I'm just happy that so far, we are going in to week 3 now and everyone is there and healthy. I would love more than anything to see a JS7, RV, CR, RD, and TC battle for 20 laps on one of the longer tracks. Speaking of longer tracks.......RD might find himself running better on one of those. The short tracks like tonight never seem to sit well with him. Looking forward to getting to one of these tracks soon. Shame most of them are all on the East Coast.
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AEIOU 1/15/2011 10:15pm
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I'm really starting to think there was something to the pre season injury rumor. . He doesn't look like himself in my opinion.
That's what I was talking about. Bobby M,?
Spat24 1/15/2011 10:19pm
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fader418 wrote:
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey...
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey get the holeshot......I was impressed that Reed held him off.....
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a lapper and Reed got buy - he was still close enough to make another pass. Not sure why he could pull the trigger. Maybe just not his night.

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MX4EVR 1/15/2011 10:20pm
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All the tunes will change after about 5 more weeks when Stewart wins like 6 in a row like 09 when he won 7 in a row. Make sure you you don't forget you heard it here. His speed is crazy. Who beat Ricky more than him? Sure it was at the end but still showed he will do whatever it takes to win. I sure as he'll do not want to see any of these warriors get hurt but come on it's a risk to race at the TOP level in SX and MX, that comes with the package when you sign up.
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AEIOU 1/15/2011 10:24pm
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MX4EVR wrote:
All the tunes will change after about 5 more weeks when Stewart wins like 6 in a row like 09 when he won 7 in a...
All the tunes will change after about 5 more weeks when Stewart wins like 6 in a row like 09 when he won 7 in a row. Make sure you you don't forget you heard it here. His speed is crazy. Who beat Ricky more than him? Sure it was at the end but still showed he will do whatever it takes to win. I sure as he'll do not want to see any of these warriors get hurt but come on it's a risk to race at the TOP level in SX and MX, that comes with the package when you sign up.
No disrespect to Stewart. He is the fastest guy, no doubt. I just think something is wrong with Dungey.
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Would simply like to applaud the civil discourse and rational thought appearing in this thread (modk and r111), especially since it's coming so late on a Saturday nite when most posters are usually much looser in the lips (er, typing fingers). Keep this up and more normal people would post here. Thanks for restoring my faith in real moto fans.
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I'm really starting to think there was something to the pre season injury rumor. . He doesn't look like himself in my opinion.
AEIOU wrote:
That's what I was talking about. Bobby M,?
ahhh. i didnt catch that. not a bad assumption.

but like racer111, im just happy we got a "big 5" and about 10 very competitive/equal teams. so far the season is delivering very good racing.
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observer 1/15/2011 10:26pm
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fader418 wrote:
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey...
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey get the holeshot......I was impressed that Reed held him off.....
Spat24 wrote:
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a...
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a lapper and Reed got buy - he was still close enough to make another pass. Not sure why he could pull the trigger. Maybe just not his night.

I dunno....I think maybe Reed picked it up (much as he was able)cause he knew Dungey was coming(2nd time)....and maybe Ryan was a little flustered at what happened and just finished strong and get out of there with what he had. ?? good close racing times though...what we wanna see!
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SoCalMX70 1/15/2011 10:28pm
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fader418 wrote:
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey...
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey get the holeshot......I was impressed that Reed held him off.....
Spat24 wrote:
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a...
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a lapper and Reed got buy - he was still close enough to make another pass. Not sure why he could pull the trigger. Maybe just not his night.

Reed had passed Dungey early on (saw it while checking the positions scrolling across the top). Dungey passed Reed back, then Reed got by again during that weird hold up.
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toroP 1/15/2011 10:30pm
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fader418 wrote:
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey...
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey get the holeshot......I was impressed that Reed held him off.....
Spat24 wrote:
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a...
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a lapper and Reed got buy - he was still close enough to make another pass. Not sure why he could pull the trigger. Maybe just not his night.

Reed started behind Dungey. Reed passed him twice.
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kongols 1/15/2011 10:31pm
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observer wrote:
I dunno....I think maybe Reed picked it up (much as he was able)cause he knew Dungey was coming(2nd time)....and maybe Ryan was a little flustered at...
I dunno....I think maybe Reed picked it up (much as he was able)cause he knew Dungey was coming(2nd time)....and maybe Ryan was a little flustered at what happened and just finished strong and get out of there with what he had. ?? good close racing times though...what we wanna see!
Reed`s best lap was on lap 16. I think he picked it up. They where going almost the same speed and that hold up cost Dungey big time.
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fader418 wrote:
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey...
When I kept on saying he would get 4th....everybody was laughing at me.......It just shows you how important a start is this year.....I wanna see Dungey get the holeshot......I was impressed that Reed held him off.....
Spat24 wrote:
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a...
I was surprised he didnt get by Reed a second time. Dungey mad a good pass on Reed but when he got held up by a lapper and Reed got buy - he was still close enough to make another pass. Not sure why he could pull the trigger. Maybe just not his night.

Reed passed Dungey 2 times in the main, once in the first half and the other when Dungey got held up from lapped traffic. The main reason why Dungey passed Reed in the first place was Reed got held up for several laps behind Brayton and Dungey passed them both when they were in a fight, the 90 turns are crap for passing and slow the guy trying to do the passing (or both at times)
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AEIOU 1/15/2011 10:35pm
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I'm really starting to think there was something to the pre season injury rumor. . He doesn't look like himself in my opinion.
AEIOU wrote:
That's what I was talking about. Bobby M,?
Mod Killer wrote:
ahhh. i didnt catch that. not a bad assumption. but like racer111, im just happy we got a "big 5" and about 10 very competitive/equal teams...
ahhh. i didnt catch that. not a bad assumption.

but like racer111, im just happy we got a "big 5" and about 10 very competitive/equal teams. so far the season is delivering very good racing.
For sure. This is gonna be a good season. James is flying, as expected, and the Gingers (RV and TC) are hauling ass

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lilbulld 1/15/2011 10:42pm
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DanDunes818 wrote:
I'm really starting to think there was something to the pre season injury rumor. . He doesn't look like himself in my opinion.
I think you are correct, and it was him as I had been thinking this whole time
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toroP 1/15/2011 10:55pm
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Just reviewed the race start. Dungey got a great start. He was 3rd after the first rhythm section. Reed was about 14th.
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hes riding smart. we wont see him push it til he has too. i dont know why this is a suprise to anyone. its VERY early...
hes riding smart. we wont see him push it til he has too. i dont know why this is a suprise to anyone.

its VERY early in the season. he's lost no real ground. and the odds are still very high that RV or bubba will crash each other out. we got a long way to go. dungey is riding exactly the way he should.
I have to agree with you on this one. Stewie and RV will crash each other out at least once. And I am a huge RV fan btw. I hope that RV and JS can take it to vegas, but I see them crashing out and someone like Dungey or Reed sweep in and take the title.
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ElkinHammer 1/16/2011 11:38am
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This same time last year all of the top guys were still healthy and Dungey still had the the fastest practice times and heat race times so...I don't buy it that EVERYONE is healthy this year theory because they were last year at this same point in the series...This year he has not had great lap times compared to some of the other guys... I tend to agree with what someone else said " he just does't look the same" maybe he does have an injury or maybe a bike set up issue either way not the same Dungey?
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kwhite199 1/16/2011 11:48am
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This same time last year all of the top guys were still healthy and Dungey still had the the fastest practice times and heat race times...
This same time last year all of the top guys were still healthy and Dungey still had the the fastest practice times and heat race times so...I don't buy it that EVERYONE is healthy this year theory because they were last year at this same point in the series...This year he has not had great lap times compared to some of the other guys... I tend to agree with what someone else said " he just does't look the same" maybe he does have an injury or maybe a bike set up issue either way not the same Dungey?
I have to agree. Something just doesn't look right with the way he is riding this year. I think we have yet to see anything close to his best. I am looking forward to seeing him at his best. It can only make the racing that much better!
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mxb2 1/16/2011 11:51am
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Its only the second race, I m sure Dungey knows what he s doing!
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Racer111 1/16/2011 11:55am
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mxb2 wrote:
Its only the second race, I m sure Dungey knows what he s doing!
Me too! Getting smoked!! Tongue
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Getting smoked? He finished 2nd @ A1. Once he moved into second behind RV2, he stayed pretty much the same distance away from him and actually closed towards the end (RV may have let up a bit).

Last night he made a mistake early that had him drop a couple spots. He passed both Brayton & Reed only to run into a rider that crashed and then passed Brayton again and stayed on Reeds wheel until the end. It was a one line type track.

It's only 2 races. The one thing for sure he needs to improve on are his starts. It looks like RV is nailing down the starts. If he continues to do that and doesn't ride over his head and crash, he will be tough to beat. If Dungey doesn't get a good start, he needs to make passes right away and not wait around.
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raddad 1/16/2011 12:35pm
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Getting smoked? He finished 2nd @ A1. Once he moved into second behind RV2, he stayed pretty much the same distance away from him and actually...
Getting smoked? He finished 2nd @ A1. Once he moved into second behind RV2, he stayed pretty much the same distance away from him and actually closed towards the end (RV may have let up a bit).

Last night he made a mistake early that had him drop a couple spots. He passed both Brayton & Reed only to run into a rider that crashed and then passed Brayton again and stayed on Reeds wheel until the end. It was a one line type track.

It's only 2 races. The one thing for sure he needs to improve on are his starts. It looks like RV is nailing down the starts. If he continues to do that and doesn't ride over his head and crash, he will be tough to beat. If Dungey doesn't get a good start, he needs to make passes right away and not wait around.
X2.. How is a rider that gets a 5th and a 2nd getting smoked? I am not so sure that anything is terribly wrong with Ryan, maybe a few effects of getting his bell rung etc. from a bad crash but all in all i think its just how the cards are falling. Nothing to get to exited about IMO. His lap times are competitive and when he gets shuffled back several places as he did last nighton the first lap, he fights hard and moves forward. What more can anyone ask other than doing your best?

Anyway i think that all riders have there ups and downs and in RD1's case its way to early to hit the panic button. He is still very much in the points and very much a contender, don't count him out yet guys!
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DJ KC 1/16/2011 1:54pm
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The deepest field we have seen in years in Supercross racing... And coming up with dumb crap like this and only two races in? Enjoy the great racing... And starts will be everything for winning this year.
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Tarz483 1/16/2011 1:59pm
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He needs no excuses there is nothing wrong with 2nd and 5th

he will be there for the long haul

the top 5 riders have finished in the top 5 spots at both of the 2 races so far

2 different winners

a good season so far , personally i hope to see multiple winners
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Weeks381fan 1/16/2011 3:52pm
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hes riding smart. we wont see him push it til he has too. i dont know why this is a suprise to anyone. its VERY early...
hes riding smart. we wont see him push it til he has too. i dont know why this is a suprise to anyone.

its VERY early in the season. he's lost no real ground. and the odds are still very high that RV or bubba will crash each other out. we got a long way to go. dungey is riding exactly the way he should.
Dungey is riding exactly how he can because everyone is healthy right now. Did someone expect him to go out and beat these guys?

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