Texas Primary

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Here's an interesting Talarico quote. He sounds like a reasonable man to me.“Modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes; in...

Here's an interesting Talarico quote. He sounds like a reasonable man to me.

“Modern science obviously recognizes that there are many more than two biological sexes; in fact, there are six.” ~ Mike Talarico

LoudLove wrote:

Six?  That’s oddly specific. I’ve also heard 47, which really flushes credibility of the gender teams. Both D and R overwhelmingly support the two gender model. Not...

Six?  That’s oddly specific. I’ve also heard 47, which really flushes credibility of the gender teams. 

Both D and R overwhelmingly support the two gender model. Not sure why people still go down that rabbit hole.  It’s not helping anyone. 

LoudLove wrote:

Six?  That’s oddly specific. I’ve also heard 47, which really flushes credibility of the gender teams. Both D and R overwhelmingly support the two gender model. Not...

Six?  That’s oddly specific. I’ve also heard 47, which really flushes credibility of the gender teams. 

Both D and R overwhelmingly support the two gender model. Not sure why people still go down that rabbit hole.  It’s not helping anyone. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

But he said "obviously". Surely that settles it.

early wrote:

You may not agree with it, but this is what it means.

You may not agree with it, but this is what it means.

early wrote:

You may not agree with it, but this is what it means.

You may not agree with it, but this is what it means.

truck wrote:

These are the most common, but there are others, and there are mosaics that have some of multiple variations in the same body. Prior to all of...

These are the most common, but there are others, and there are mosaics that have some of multiple variations in the same body. 

Prior to all of this becoming politicized, nobody would have argued that these outliers meant that there was more than two sexes. It was always very straightforward. Y chromosome equals male. Absence of Y chromosome equals female. It really is that simple. 

In my attic somewhere I've got undergrad textbooks, graduate level embryology and genetics textbooks, med school textbooks, etc from not all that long ago but before this was an issue, and they all state this clearly but don't spend much time on it because it was just accepted scientific fact. And I went to woke state schools for all of my education. I'm sure all of those sections have been butchered in more recent editions but it wasn't scientific advances that led to that. 

And it wasn't just the genetics of biological sex that were settled science. It was also clearly taught that observable phenotypes (might call it gender in humans.....) were strongly correlated with genetic sex. This was true across species and nobody suggested the male and female wild animals only acted differently because of culturally imposed norms that they felt pressured to conform to. 

I still can't believe this is an issue that's actually debated. 

early wrote:

I learned about all these conditions before 9/11, I would label these as conditions and not individual sexes personally. At the same time before all this...

I learned about all these conditions before 9/11, I would label these as conditions and not individual sexes personally. At the same time before all this became a big issue we probably all knew girly men and manly women, maybe some of those people had these conditions, maybe not and there was something else at play. It's all been overly complicated by both sides of the political divide. 

truck wrote:

These are the most common, but there are others, and there are mosaics that have some of multiple variations in the same body. Prior to all of...

These are the most common, but there are others, and there are mosaics that have some of multiple variations in the same body. 

Prior to all of this becoming politicized, nobody would have argued that these outliers meant that there was more than two sexes. It was always very straightforward. Y chromosome equals male. Absence of Y chromosome equals female. It really is that simple. 

In my attic somewhere I've got undergrad textbooks, graduate level embryology and genetics textbooks, med school textbooks, etc from not all that long ago but before this was an issue, and they all state this clearly but don't spend much time on it because it was just accepted scientific fact. And I went to woke state schools for all of my education. I'm sure all of those sections have been butchered in more recent editions but it wasn't scientific advances that led to that. 

And it wasn't just the genetics of biological sex that were settled science. It was also clearly taught that observable phenotypes (might call it gender in humans.....) were strongly correlated with genetic sex. This was true across species and nobody suggested the male and female wild animals only acted differently because of culturally imposed norms that they felt pressured to conform to. 

I still can't believe this is an issue that's actually debated. 

early wrote:

I learned about all these conditions before 9/11, I would label these as conditions and not individual sexes personally. At the same time before all this...

I learned about all these conditions before 9/11, I would label these as conditions and not individual sexes personally. At the same time before all this became a big issue we probably all knew girly men and manly women, maybe some of those people had these conditions, maybe not and there was something else at play. It's all been overly complicated by both sides of the political divide. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

So, you agree that those aren't 6 different sexes, but 2 sexes with different genealogical disorders?

early wrote:

I learned about all these conditions before 9/11, I would label these as conditions and not individual sexes personally. At the same time before all this...

I learned about all these conditions before 9/11, I would label these as conditions and not individual sexes personally. At the same time before all this became a big issue we probably all knew girly men and manly women, maybe some of those people had these conditions, maybe not and there was something else at play. It's all been overly complicated by both sides of the political divide. 

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

So, you agree that those aren't 6 different sexes, but 2 sexes with different genealogical disorders?

Freddy99 wrote:

if you don't know the difference between genetics and genealogy maybe just sit this one out

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

So, you agree that those aren't 6 different sexes, but 2 sexes with different genealogical disorders?

Freddy99 wrote:

if you don't know the difference between genetics and genealogy maybe just sit this one out

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Autofuckt, sue me, Dr. Fred.

LoudLove wrote:

We ran crazy labs in high school biology stemming from genealogical design.  Fun fact:  I puked dissecting a frog, forever stalling my medical career. 

LoudLove wrote:

We ran crazy labs in high school biology stemming from genealogical design.  Fun fact:  I puked dissecting a frog, forever stalling my medical career. 

Freddy99 wrote:

if you don't know the difference between genetics and genealogy maybe just sit this one out

SEEMEFIRST wrote:

Autofuckt, sue me, Dr. Fred.

Freddy99 wrote:

.....what word were you going for here?

Freddy99 wrote:

.....what word were you going for here?

ShellyMX wrote:

I hated dissecting frogs. I can still smell the formaldehyde🤮

JAFO92 wrote:

You sho nuff dont want any part of the funeral biz.  I could tell you shit you wouldn't believe me.

ShellyMX wrote:

I hated dissecting frogs. I can still smell the formaldehyde🤮

JAFO92 wrote:

You sho nuff dont want any part of the funeral biz.  I could tell you shit you wouldn't believe me.