#38 Marketing

Brent
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3/26/2026 9:16am

...remember that this entire sport is just entertainment.  Some riders and teams take themselves too seriously - we are not curing cancer or saving humanity here , it's just dirt bike racing.

Like them or hate them, mad respect to their marketing skills.

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davistld01
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3/26/2026 9:21am
       No matter your feelings about Deegan’s personal life, as a professional SX/MX racer , he was strongly wronged in Alabama. He loses a...

       No matter your feelings about Deegan’s personal life, as a professional SX/MX racer , he was strongly wronged in Alabama. He loses a clear cut win for running over a plastic track marker, and riders  who try to block race leaders and directly change the outcome of a race or series are not even given a look see by rule enforcement.  Bizarre.

I'd bet 90% of fans...and even of other riders agree, no matter how they feel about Haiden. He was targeted by the AMA.

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AH387
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3/26/2026 9:29am
davistld01 wrote:
Brian Deegan was a marketing master in his Metal Mulisha days, got give credit where it's due. Playing the bad guy...the villain vs. Travis Pastrana's "All...

Brian Deegan was a marketing master in his Metal Mulisha days, got give credit where it's due. Playing the bad guy...the villain vs. Travis Pastrana's "All American Good Guy" image paid off greatly. Everybody knows a lot of the bluster and cocky attitude that Haiden has in interviews is manufactured and has been coached by Brian over the years...but it's been successful in creating Haiden's "brand". 

Brian needed that though, Haiden doesn’t. He can let his riding do the talking if he wants to

Axlnut_KM3 wrote:
Why exactly did Brian need that?In FMX Brians riding did the talking just fine, he and Pastrana were neck and neck in the glory days. He just...

Why exactly did Brian need that?

In FMX Brians riding did the talking just fine, he and Pastrana were neck and neck in the glory days. 

He just had an innate business acumen that allowed him to turn X-Games cash into something far larger, and he brought the whole genre of the sport along for the ride.

See... HD38

I would say because for all intents and purposes, FMX was a gimmicky fad, unlike racing. Which is why FMX has come and gone, for the most part. And the Mulisha did make it more interesting and maybe prolonged it. If anything, it at least maximized it, while it was hot. And not saying anything negative, Brian did a good job there. I wasn't really one to follow the look and culture that they had, but I was a fan.

And I understand why they do what they do with Haiden too. But it just doesn't feel genuine. It feels like Haiden is propped up there to do this stuff. As someone said earlier, he can't even look people in the eye when he talks, or does that awkward nervous laugh thing etc. So yeah, people notice that and sometimes ppl are going to call it for what it is. But it's their choice to do what they do. If they want to make merch for every little trivial occurrence, then more power to them. But it's not everyone's cup of tea. Also, I personally feel like some what they do is for personal gain, under the guise of "growing the sport." This being an example. Which again, nothing wrong with that. They know their audience, but it's also ok to call it what it is. And Haiden is without a doubt talented and interesting enough to still be a top draw, without the theatrics. But they choose to do it, and it is what it is. No hate, as I support them, but I just don't have to agree with every thing they do or say.

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DownSouth
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3/26/2026 9:35am

PT Barnum was right.

$38 for a t shirt?

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3/26/2026 9:50am

HRC, the Lawrence’s, and Lars should take note on how to handle this and not act like perpetual victims

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