East/West Showdown-Shootout A National Win?

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Edited Date/Time 3/16/2026 7:57pm

We all know the 250 East and West SX Championships are Regional (Division) Championships and therefore those wins do not count as a National win in the record books. 

Shouldn't East/West Showdowns/Shootouts be counted as a National win for the record books? Its the same riders all together that compete in the Outdoor Championship that are counted as a National win. 

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Kenny Banyan
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3/16/2026 9:06pm

I actually like that idea alot!💯

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jazza167
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3/16/2026 9:54pm

Last I checked Nationals were outdoor motocross… 

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3/16/2026 10:32pm

It's not an outdoor national.  

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3/17/2026 12:50am

I understand what you’re saying.  Folks consider an east coast or west coast 250 win regional.  A 450 supercross champ is a national champion not a regional 250 champ.


Yes IMO the showdown winners should have those rounds count toward overall wins statistically.

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ARM670
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3/17/2026 3:37am

No. It's a regional series class not a national class. I would like to see it be a national class but I believe it would hurt the sport in the long run.

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3/17/2026 5:04am

Maybe go a step further and crown the overall best points in all the showdowns every particular season the national champ of 250 motocross that year?

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ARM670
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3/17/2026 5:16am
Spoonguy wrote:

Maybe go a step further and crown the overall best points in all the showdowns every particular season the national champ of 250 motocross that year?

There is already a 250 national motocross series.

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AJ565
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3/17/2026 5:19am
Spoonguy wrote:

Maybe go a step further and crown the overall best points in all the showdowns every particular season the national champ of 250 motocross that year?

We could call it the SMX series!

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KurtJ99
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3/17/2026 5:47am

Closer to SMX than outdoors. Maybe some SMX bonus points. Good idea to make the shootouts have more meaning. 

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3/17/2026 5:56am

I’m in favor of those rounds having extra points per race.. not like double triple gimmick points, but something.. winning a shootout is a big deal

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Only if they race 20+1, like the 450s

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3/17/2026 12:13pm

No. Despite both regions lining up at the same event the points are still split to the rider's regions. It's still a regional series. 

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3/17/2026 12:24pm Edited Date/Time 3/17/2026 12:25pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:

No. Despite both regions lining up at the same event the points are still split to the rider's regions. It's still a regional series. 

But is is really when by talent when everyone in 250 SX is there? I suppose you can say because both sides are regional AND that implies exclusions for prior champions and points, that is isn't qualified as a national championship.  For all incense and porpoises, it is a national championship race. 

 

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