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When it can’t produce 20 riders capable of competing at the same professional level?
Just how healthy is the sport
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Is F1 any different?
it can , but you split them across 3 classes, and throw money year after year at the same people who dont deliver, in half a class.
In F1 team principals are more ruthless. For the most part, if a rookie signs with a team and doesn't immediately deliver points...he's sent packing after a season, or less. Seems like in our sport, a lot of guys are perpetual lappers, and somehow garner factory-level bikes and support year after year. Same old guys...same old performance.
What sports have 20 competitors at the same professional level?
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The problem is they spread those 20 into 3 different classes. Take 10 out of the 250’s and the 450 class lapper issues wouid be solved
This is just getting so ridiculous. It's been a mostly solid SX season so far and we have 1 somewhat bad race (mainly due to a track that lapped too quickly and broke down too much) and now all of a sudden "the sport is in bad shape because people get lapped." People want the privateers gone and want to watch a focus race on the top 10 elite racers only etc. Everyone else is worthless, I guess, all of a sudden. Well, that's not sustainable or healthy for the sport either, in my opinion. If you want Supercross to eventually become Monster Jam, then sure, I guess we could go that route. I would prefer the sport, as a whole to stay true to it's roots. And by that I mean, being able to buy a bike off of the showroom and go racing. It was built on being an enthusiast/participant sport and I still personally think it's going to be healthy if it remains that way. But some of these reactionary responses I've seen in the last couple days, are just very short-sighted, in my opinion.
If you’re talented enough that buying a stock bike and go race still holds true. Andrew short podiumed on a stock crf450 10 years ago, but if you aren’t talented enough some of those guys could have a gp works bike and still get lapped in a 8 minute heat race …
It isn’t a crusade against privateers, it’s just setting limits on what is a maximum difference in lap times.
Dirtbikes in general is really healthy.
47 manufacturers, 2 strokes getting development, 4 strokes are outstanding, E bikes are taking off, kids everywhere are on e-bikes, atleast in the south east riding and racing is everywhere, used bikes can be bought and be reliable options with today's quality.
At the top of the sport some of those guys are just next level speed.
So the 2 stand-out lapper issues of the evening were probably Cole Thompson and Vince Friese. Both guys working on a very limited budget and both guys absolutely talented enough to be in a main event regularly. So my point stands.
I don’t think you’ve been following the conversations but if you say so, yes your point stands…
Funny...but neither one of those guys seem to be able to make a main without blowing other riders off the track or putting them in danger. If they could do it simply by being "absolutely talented" enough, the contention wouldn't be there.
I think in Cole's situation you could argue that Hunter was more at fault. Looked to me that he just tried to thread the needle and took a risk that he probably shouldn't have.
Best 450SX season we have had in years and people still complaining…wild but it’s the way of the world currently, never happy.
Maybe...but not my point. My point is that both Cole & Vince are habitually asshats on the track...and have the reputations of being just that. You seem to be a Thompson/Friese supporter.
If all of the chatter this week was "Cole and Vince are asshats" then I would have no issue (other than maybe that isolated incident with Cole was just as much on Hunter) and probably would not have even responded to any threads. But that hasn't been the talk by the majority of ppl on here and other social media.
You would be hard pushed to think of one that is actually worse TBH.
Separation from the best guys , to the not so best guys is huge.
MotoGP, you get times when the whole field is with a second, or certainly the top 15 are, as the track never changes, and any difference in speed is purely marginal.
SX has huge variations in everything. Over one lap you might get close to a time, and we saw that one round where the Top 10 or so were within a second, and then the following week , Prado gapped the field by a second.
the SPORT isn't producing riders here, it is corporations/sponsors. All are slaves to $ and only concerned about generating profits any/every way they can. Anyone who can't contribute to the $ generating machine is ignored or cast aside.
Thank you for this! Regarding reactionary responses you are spot on!
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