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Edited Date/Time 1/25/2012 4:32pm
I often find myself watching old '01 Nationals on tape - and every time I do, I'm more convinced that the only way to capture the feel of outdoor motocross is to show both classes, both motos, in the correct order. You can see how the track changes, you can get a sense of the excitement from one moto affecting the next, and the announcers pick up on things like, "Ricky Carmichaeal talked Mike Brown into starting on the inside, he got closed out, and RC decided to start in the middle in his moto."

A 2 hour show with both motos of both classes is the only way it can be done right.

I remember complaining one time because ESPN preempted a national for a womans' lacrosse game - I formally apologize. Nobody has ever done it better than it was done in '01.
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mxdad 4/21/2008 5:18pm
4/21/2008 5:18pm
SPEED should bow down and worship the opportunity to cover the AMA Supercross and Motocross Series. What do they have to broadcast instead? Unique Whips?.... they run that lame ass shit non stop. It is an embarasment that they broadcast that crap on the same channel.

Time to yank the coverage from Speed or else demand they step it up with ground coverage camera crews like the canadian nats. (I have heard that the canadian nats are filmed by 3 guys running around on foot with cameras like we do as spectators.......no wonder the coverage is 1000 times better). Get rid of the spectator blocking scissor lifts and for the love of Jesus H Christ (the real one not the poster) get rid of the fucken helicopter. Worthless distant, lack of prospective footage, noise, and banners rapping around racers necks. Get the fuck on the dirt were the action happens in this sport.

If they can film the canadian nats with 3 cameras on the ground imagine what they could do with the 30 people Speed has at the ama nats.

The fucken Lifetime channel could do better. Ok maybe not but you get the idea.




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fla63 4/21/2008 6:18pm
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mxdad wrote:
SPEED should bow down and worship the opportunity to cover the AMA Supercross and Motocross Series. What do they have to broadcast instead? Unique Whips?.... they...
SPEED should bow down and worship the opportunity to cover the AMA Supercross and Motocross Series. What do they have to broadcast instead? Unique Whips?.... they run that lame ass shit non stop. It is an embarasment that they broadcast that crap on the same channel.

Time to yank the coverage from Speed or else demand they step it up with ground coverage camera crews like the canadian nats. (I have heard that the canadian nats are filmed by 3 guys running around on foot with cameras like we do as spectators.......no wonder the coverage is 1000 times better). Get rid of the spectator blocking scissor lifts and for the love of Jesus H Christ (the real one not the poster) get rid of the fucken helicopter. Worthless distant, lack of prospective footage, noise, and banners rapping around racers necks. Get the fuck on the dirt were the action happens in this sport.

If they can film the canadian nats with 3 cameras on the ground imagine what they could do with the 30 people Speed has at the ama nats.

The fucken Lifetime channel could do better. Ok maybe not but you get the idea.




You have got to love that passion...lol...but I agree
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davis224 4/21/2008 6:18pm
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jsut get whoever films daytona to do every race. I'm happy with speed, and I remember how happy everyone was to get rid of ESPN in exchange for speed...
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DPR250R 4/21/2008 6:53pm
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Supercross used to be 2 hours as well if I remember correctly.... the 2 hour shows were really great for hardcore moto heads.

The problem was ESPN would bump MX or SX all over without notification. It really sucked to stay away from the net all week then have the show cancelled and replaced by womens soccer or poker.

Speed is better IMO... but still needs work.

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gt80rider 4/21/2008 8:58pm
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I really miss the old Supercross shows, 2 hrs, with all the 250 heats, semi's and lcq's..... and the tiddler and 250 mains..... not to even mention how much i miss Bailey are Art...

with the way they air them now.... i rarely watch the tiddler class, sx or mx.... i'd mucho rather see them together.
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twizzler 4/21/2008 9:12pm
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WhKnuckle wrote:
I often find myself watching old '01 Nationals on tape - and every time I do, I'm more convinced that the only way to capture the...
I often find myself watching old '01 Nationals on tape - and every time I do, I'm more convinced that the only way to capture the feel of outdoor motocross is to show both classes, both motos, in the correct order. You can see how the track changes, you can get a sense of the excitement from one moto affecting the next, and the announcers pick up on things like, "Ricky Carmichaeal talked Mike Brown into starting on the inside, he got closed out, and RC decided to start in the middle in his moto."

A 2 hour show with both motos of both classes is the only way it can be done right.

I remember complaining one time because ESPN preempted a national for a womans' lacrosse game - I formally apologize. Nobody has ever done it better than it was done in '01.
I too watch the 01' Nationals on VHS all the time. Great coverage for sure. I sure miss those days.

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