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Man that took me a minute to get past the distraction of trying to figure out where I knew that actor giving the presentation from. That's Phlox from Star Trek!
I am just going to bump this thread, since Greenland is back in the news again.
I, for one, do not want the USA to go annex Greenland. I feel it would further damage our global reputation and relationships with our allies.
All of Europe and our European Allies rely on our presence via (former named) Thule Air Base in Greenland to protect all of Europe from missile strikes. Denmark does not have a base on Greenland and the protection they claim of Greenland relies on the US and their radar base.
Without the US radar bases in Greenland and Aviano, Italy, our Allies would have very little capability to protect themselves from a missile strike from Russian, China or the Middle East. If we were not in Greenland, there is nothing Denmark could do to protect it and Russia and China want it bad. Outside of Denmark talking heads, I don't think any European Allie is batting an eye about the US laying claim to Greenland. Europe's existence relies on it.
It would undermine the NATO agreement and maybe result in us being removed from NATO or it dissolving entirely. That would likely mean any US base in NATO countries could be shut down. Hardly seems like it would be making things more secure.
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I see you’ve fallen for The Drama Queen Narrative…
So, here’s a repost of something I dropped in another thread when you guys dragged Greenland into it…
Welcome to The New Western Hemisphere.
Next-up: an Independent Greenland with air bases, naval ports, space ports (Space Force) and other “protective-defensive facilities” from their soon to be newest and biggest best buddy, Murica. Think Guam, etc.
Fun fact: the vast majority of those clutching their pearls over Greenland don’t know Jack-shit about Greenland.
Population 58K…as in 58,000 (90% of that is Greenlandic Inuit)
Declared Self-Rule in 1979. Declared further Autonomy & Self-Rule INDEPENDENCE in 2009.
Shares a 1.2km border with Canada on an island you've never heard of.
Ain’t nobody gonna invade Greenland. Greenland is gonna go fully independent, cash in and never have to worry about those Danish cookies ever…EVER. 🤣
ps-I’ll ad this…
If you think NATO is gonna do ANYTHING over a Dutch territorial tantrum regarding a territory that they’ve been losing legal control of since 1979…? You’re not too well versed in reality. CNN is too far in your head.
Why can’t Greenland decide for itself? How did Vance’s trip last year go?
Just because you can do something doesn’t mean you should.
+1. We don't announce new bases in GL, they do. They should defend their territory with any means they see fit, from rolling over to their allies letting nukes fly.
It's really pretty simple. Spoil alert, the US is NATO. It wouldn't exist without them.
If the US wasn't in Greenland, and Aviano, Italy Europe is a sitting duck, ripe for the plucking.
Please read what you’re responding to BEFORE you post.
Ain’t nobody gonna invade Greenland. Greenland is gonna go fully independent, cash in and never have to worry about those Danish cookies ever…EVER. 🤣
GREENLAND IS GONNA GO FULLY INDEPENDENT
Seriously, You Can Not Make This Shit Up 💩
Run by some Somali dude? you forgot to add.
This doesn’t sound like what is coming from the WH. A fully independent nation of 58k in the middle of the ocean seems ripe for invasion.
Have they stated they want to annex from Denmark control?
See Guam for an example: that’s how these things go. It’s pretty much how they “have to” go.
Greenland is fine the way it is. We don’t need to take it.
if they came to us and said hey we’d like help doing this that’s an entirely different thing.
You do see where I’m saying they’ll end up an Independent State…don’t you?
And we’ll have a land, sea, air & space presence.
Count on it.
Again…see “Guam”.
I can do this all day, week, month…it’s like going to a materials symposium at JPL…you pound them with the idea until they actually get it…tho, that’s about high tech materials…🤣
Greenland being in NATO, the US can put troops there. They can have air defense, they have bases there.
Its not about national security, he wants the mineral resources. Its the only thing that makes sense
The US has had 30 bases but has decided on its own to reduce it to 1.
There is a already a standing agreement that US can build bases and have troops there, so when the argument is national security you’re already covered.
So I guess it’s not only about national security?
Any truth to Greenland’s cold climate being an ideal location for heat producing data centers?
Controlling resources is the best form of national security as well as long term stability.
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We already have presence there. Again is Greenland asking for its independence?
There’s no way you believe theyll be independent. This is the Trump playbook. Say one thing. Do a different thing and then you couch it by saying that was the plan all along. That way you can never be wrong. See Venezuela drugs. Syke, Oil.
Obviously not a free pass though. Just because France is in NATO doesn't mean we own Paris and can bulldoze it for a base. We have a base in Greenland and there's plenty of room to expand without even touching the boundary, yet we haven't done that. If it's about minerals,, that's the same as openly talking about wanting to be a criminal nation. In normal times, America hates criminals, unless one were a Dem, in which case we like to hug them.
Crazy to think that only 58,000 people live in that whole Country
All I can say to this is that you are completely and utterly wrong. Europe is very, very much batting an eye. There's also nothing to suggest Russia either wants or is capable of annexing it, nor is China. Greenland is part of Denmark currently and therefore part of NATO which means any aggression from Russia/China is an attack on all.
Greenland has been pushing for independence for a while now, they are working towards a referendum on it and with support from Denmark to make their own decision.
Sounds like we don’t need to be involved.
Denmark gives Greenland about half of their total GDP.
Assuming their independence would also mean no more financial support from Denmark, do you know how do they plan on making up for that lost revenue?
Maybe the USA is the answer to that? Just speculating, but maybe they make a deal with the USA to remain independent, but let the USA develop the mineral rights in exchange for royalties to support the Government functions?
From Wiki-
"Economically, Greenland is heavily reliant on aid from Denmark, amounting to nearly half of the territory's total public revenue."
At this point I'm not sure it matters, Donald and co have invested rather a lot in making something happen and so it's likely it will. As Manny says, I don't see it coming to anything military but why it needed to get to a point the discussion headed that far is beyond me, this could all have been sorted on the quiet with some cash changing hands.
I don't think Denmark have indicated they would cut off support for Greenland in the event of an independence vote. It's a small country, so the cost is next to nothing.
As a Canadian I encourage your fearless leader to take Quebec by any means necessary. Lots of precious poutine available.
If Denmark, Greenland and the US all want to make a deal then so be it. But everything just seems to he coming from our side right now.
Just cause you have might don’t make it right.
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