Problems killing trucking

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After reading this, and the first reply in the discussion of the article, it sure looks like pro125's rants about trucking are actually spot on.

 

English-language crackdown exposes how cheap labor and CDL fraud are remaking trucking - FreightWaves https://www.freightwaves.com/news/english-language-crackdown-exposes-ho…

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12/5/2025 4:42pm

Have you read Pros posts, he no speak English so good either. 😁

7qbjfm

 

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lostboy819 wrote:
Have you read Pros posts, he no speak English so good either. 😁 

Have you read Pros posts, he no speak English so good either. 😁

7qbjfm

 

His VitalMX vernacular, much like that of his previous username, is a farce, an act. 

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Another huge problem with trucking is all of the tech and emission bullshit that has been forced down our throat. None of it works real well for very long. 

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If you've been around truckers/trucking for any length of time you'll know that pro125 is not unique in the industry.  Crazy's all in yer head.🙃

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I like that guy even if he's playing a role like the suszuki dude. There's still something genuine in there. 

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I was referring more to his comments about the european truck mafia.

Pretty scary to think about driving for an outfit that resets your elog and tell you if you dont keep driving they will report the truck stolen.

I watch fb videos of a dispatcher for flatbed loads and when the brokers tell him the rates on loads i think i would have a hard time delivering a package in a car for what they are offering.

Have seen some for about $1.50/mile, for a load the puts them near 80,000 lb.

It is crazy that this crap has been instigated during two administrations that act like they are pro union / middle class, and yet they have completely destroyed one of the better blue collar professions.

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JustMX wrote:
I was referring more to his comments about the european truck mafia.Pretty scary to think about driving for an outfit that resets your elog and tell...

I was referring more to his comments about the european truck mafia.

Pretty scary to think about driving for an outfit that resets your elog and tell you if you dont keep driving they will report the truck stolen.

I watch fb videos of a dispatcher for flatbed loads and when the brokers tell him the rates on loads i think i would have a hard time delivering a package in a car for what they are offering.

Have seen some for about $1.50/mile, for a load the puts them near 80,000 lb.

It is crazy that this crap has been instigated during two administrations that act like they are pro union / middle class, and yet they have completely destroyed one of the better blue collar professions.

I haven't done it in a while but it used to be if you wanted to make decent money you needed to pay cash for a brand new truck/trailer, buy your brokers license and authority.  

You ain't making jack driving for someone else.  Same with making payments on a used rig that's always in the shop.

There's worse jobs...like taking a position as a musician and finding out you'll be playing the slobbering blues on an upright organ.🙃

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12/6/2025 6:30am Edited Date/Time 12/6/2025 2:28pm

I think pro125 is genuine when it come to his ramblings about the current state of the US trucking industry.

Found this Country Song on youtube about the truckers of the 70s/80s. We need to return the trucking profession to its roots...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljZLZuCqlAY

...instead of these migrant tards that cut a hole in the floor of the cab and shit all over our country...literally and figuratively.

edit to add lyrics  ...that last stanza is ringing true at this moment in time.

Been rolling since Monday through wind and rain.
My old man roars, he eases my pain.
A coffee at dawn, the road signs blur.
The hum of the diesel, that's my cure.
When the radio crackles through the night,
I know my brothers are riding right.

I drive on highways made of steel.
Got diesel dreams, that's what I feel.
No GPS, just hardened wheel.
I'm an old school trucker...
...made of steel.

The rest stops quiet. The sky burns red. 
Memories of home run through my head.
She said, "Come back soon." But the highway calls.
The freedom out here. It breaks all walls.
And when the engine sings its song,
I know I've been rolling too damn long.

I drive on highways made of steel.
Got diesel dreams, that's what I feel.
No GPS, just hardened wheel.
I'm an old school trucker...
...made of steel.

For every man with grease on his hands,
for every mile and every stand you are,
the kings of the open land.
And when the motor fades away
and the road runs out someday, 
you'll hear my echo in the wind
on highways made of steel.

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Has the current truck driver shortage helped in drivers making more?

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lumpy790 wrote:

Has the current truck driver shortage helped in drivers making more?

there is not a truck driver shortage. the ATA is pushing that narrative to keep giving non domeciled CDLs to non-US citizens so they can keep trucking rates low by paying those non-domeciled CDL wages extremely low.... pushing legit truckers out of the market by not working for negative wages.

Look up Craig Fuller and Freight Waves on Twitter / X and go down that rabbit hole.

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lumpy790 wrote:

Has the current truck driver shortage helped in drivers making more?

34moto894 wrote:
there is not a truck driver shortage. the ATA is pushing that narrative to keep giving non domeciled CDLs to non-US citizens so they can keep...

there is not a truck driver shortage. the ATA is pushing that narrative to keep giving non domeciled CDLs to non-US citizens so they can keep trucking rates low by paying those non-domeciled CDL wages extremely low.... pushing legit truckers out of the market by not working for negative wages.

Look up Craig Fuller and Freight Waves on Twitter / X and go down that rabbit hole.

This. Like most jobs that exist, there isn't a shortage of people qualified to do the job, there is just a shortage of qualified people willing to do the job for slave labor wages.

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lumpy790 wrote:

Has the current truck driver shortage helped in drivers making more?

34moto894 wrote:
there is not a truck driver shortage. the ATA is pushing that narrative to keep giving non domeciled CDLs to non-US citizens so they can keep...

there is not a truck driver shortage. the ATA is pushing that narrative to keep giving non domeciled CDLs to non-US citizens so they can keep trucking rates low by paying those non-domeciled CDL wages extremely low.... pushing legit truckers out of the market by not working for negative wages.

Look up Craig Fuller and Freight Waves on Twitter / X and go down that rabbit hole.

avidchimp wrote:
This. Like most jobs that exist, there isn't a shortage of people qualified to do the job, there is just a shortage of qualified people willing...

This. Like most jobs that exist, there isn't a shortage of people qualified to do the job, there is just a shortage of qualified people willing to do the job for slave labor wages.

I assume you all know about this Minnesota debacle as well...? 
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/transportation-department-alleges-minnesota-issues-illegal-cdls/

A friend was complaining about the situation and their terrible driving.  
Driving around Minneapolis these days is NUTS!  Everyday we deal with people that have no clue how to drive.
Is it that way everywhere?
Like, they be doing their thing, going 45mph in the far left lane causing issues to start with, then, they see that they are missing their exit; They will STOP,  in the left lane, turn 90* perpendicular to traffic, cut across 4 lanes, at like 2 mph, to make the exit.
Instant traffic jam for however long it takes to straighten itself out.
I'm talking regular commuters here, not CDL drivers.  
 

Anyways, my friend was complaining about the CDL drivers you see driving terrible as well.
I said, " I know, but at least they are working, trying to do the right thing.  It isn't their fault the system is the way it is. At least they aren't participating in the scams that so many others in their community are. "

Its really bad here.
The Somali community seems to be either involved in one of the many ways they can exploit our state, or they are in poverty and doing what they can to get by.
The whole deal is really sad.

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34moto894 wrote:
there is not a truck driver shortage. the ATA is pushing that narrative to keep giving non domeciled CDLs to non-US citizens so they can keep...

there is not a truck driver shortage. the ATA is pushing that narrative to keep giving non domeciled CDLs to non-US citizens so they can keep trucking rates low by paying those non-domeciled CDL wages extremely low.... pushing legit truckers out of the market by not working for negative wages.

Look up Craig Fuller and Freight Waves on Twitter / X and go down that rabbit hole.

avidchimp wrote:
This. Like most jobs that exist, there isn't a shortage of people qualified to do the job, there is just a shortage of qualified people willing...

This. Like most jobs that exist, there isn't a shortage of people qualified to do the job, there is just a shortage of qualified people willing to do the job for slave labor wages.

I assume you all know about this Minnesota debacle as well...? https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/transportation-department-alleges-minnesota-issues-illegal-cdls/A friend was complaining about the situation and their terrible driving.  Driving around Minneapolis...

I assume you all know about this Minnesota debacle as well...? 
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/transportation-department-alleges-minnesota-issues-illegal-cdls/

A friend was complaining about the situation and their terrible driving.  
Driving around Minneapolis these days is NUTS!  Everyday we deal with people that have no clue how to drive.
Is it that way everywhere?
Like, they be doing their thing, going 45mph in the far left lane causing issues to start with, then, they see that they are missing their exit; They will STOP,  in the left lane, turn 90* perpendicular to traffic, cut across 4 lanes, at like 2 mph, to make the exit.
Instant traffic jam for however long it takes to straighten itself out.
I'm talking regular commuters here, not CDL drivers.  
 

Anyways, my friend was complaining about the CDL drivers you see driving terrible as well.
I said, " I know, but at least they are working, trying to do the right thing.  It isn't their fault the system is the way it is. At least they aren't participating in the scams that so many others in their community are. "

Its really bad here.
The Somali community seems to be either involved in one of the many ways they can exploit our state, or they are in poverty and doing what they can to get by.
The whole deal is really sad.

The issuance of CDL's to non-domiciled applicants was lobbied by the big trucking companies to bring down wages. This was not something state governments did in a vacuum. It was a direct initiative by O.T.R. companies to combat union truck driving jobs and to bottom shelf wages for profit.

As far as shitty 4 wheeler's on MN roads, they are not unique to MN. This speaks to the lack of over-sight on local DMV's with regard to their issuance of DL's to anyone who applies regardless of ability to drive a vehicle competently.

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avidchimp wrote:
This. Like most jobs that exist, there isn't a shortage of people qualified to do the job, there is just a shortage of qualified people willing...

This. Like most jobs that exist, there isn't a shortage of people qualified to do the job, there is just a shortage of qualified people willing to do the job for slave labor wages.

I assume you all know about this Minnesota debacle as well...? https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/transportation-department-alleges-minnesota-issues-illegal-cdls/A friend was complaining about the situation and their terrible driving.  Driving around Minneapolis...

I assume you all know about this Minnesota debacle as well...? 
https://www.cbsnews.com/minnesota/news/transportation-department-alleges-minnesota-issues-illegal-cdls/

A friend was complaining about the situation and their terrible driving.  
Driving around Minneapolis these days is NUTS!  Everyday we deal with people that have no clue how to drive.
Is it that way everywhere?
Like, they be doing their thing, going 45mph in the far left lane causing issues to start with, then, they see that they are missing their exit; They will STOP,  in the left lane, turn 90* perpendicular to traffic, cut across 4 lanes, at like 2 mph, to make the exit.
Instant traffic jam for however long it takes to straighten itself out.
I'm talking regular commuters here, not CDL drivers.  
 

Anyways, my friend was complaining about the CDL drivers you see driving terrible as well.
I said, " I know, but at least they are working, trying to do the right thing.  It isn't their fault the system is the way it is. At least they aren't participating in the scams that so many others in their community are. "

Its really bad here.
The Somali community seems to be either involved in one of the many ways they can exploit our state, or they are in poverty and doing what they can to get by.
The whole deal is really sad.

avidchimp wrote:
The issuance of CDL's to non-domiciled applicants was lobbied by the big trucking companies to bring down wages. This was not something state governments did in...

The issuance of CDL's to non-domiciled applicants was lobbied by the big trucking companies to bring down wages. This was not something state governments did in a vacuum. It was a direct initiative by O.T.R. companies to combat union truck driving jobs and to bottom shelf wages for profit.

As far as shitty 4 wheeler's on MN roads, they are not unique to MN. This speaks to the lack of over-sight on local DMV's with regard to their issuance of DL's to anyone who applies regardless of ability to drive a vehicle competently.

Like many things, I'm just oblivious....
Didn't know about the OTR initiatives....

Makes sense.
The greed just never ends...

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12/8/2025 11:02am

Are you saying it's NOT all Smokey and the Bandit life?

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ToolMaker wrote:

Are you saying it's NOT all Smokey and the Bandit life?

When I'm on a road trip and trying to make up time, I'm always on the lookout for a "bandit" to follow.

I'll be cruising along and when someone going REALLY fast passes me, I'm like "there's my bandit, let's go!"

Bonus if it's a red sports car! 

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ToolMaker wrote:

Are you saying it's NOT all Smokey and the Bandit life?

When I'm on a road trip and trying to make up time, I'm always on the lookout for a "bandit" to follow.I'll be cruising along and...

When I'm on a road trip and trying to make up time, I'm always on the lookout for a "bandit" to follow.

I'll be cruising along and when someone going REALLY fast passes me, I'm like "there's my bandit, let's go!"

Bonus if it's a red sports car! 

In trucking terms that fast boy is your "front door".  The guy following behind a mile or so is your "back door".  While you're in between them, cruising 20 mph over the limit, you are in the "rocking chair"

If you're traveling cross country...700-800 miles a day it is courtesy or customary for you to spend time being front/back door.  That's old school trucking code...I dont see it much nowadays. 

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ToolMaker wrote:

Are you saying it's NOT all Smokey and the Bandit life?

When I'm on a road trip and trying to make up time, I'm always on the lookout for a "bandit" to follow.I'll be cruising along and...

When I'm on a road trip and trying to make up time, I'm always on the lookout for a "bandit" to follow.

I'll be cruising along and when someone going REALLY fast passes me, I'm like "there's my bandit, let's go!"

Bonus if it's a red sports car! 

Bonus points if that red sports car has nice seat covers!

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ToolMaker wrote:

Are you saying it's NOT all Smokey and the Bandit life?

When I'm on a road trip and trying to make up time, I'm always on the lookout for a "bandit" to follow.I'll be cruising along and...

When I'm on a road trip and trying to make up time, I'm always on the lookout for a "bandit" to follow.

I'll be cruising along and when someone going REALLY fast passes me, I'm like "there's my bandit, let's go!"

Bonus if it's a red sports car! 

plowboy wrote:
In trucking terms that fast boy is your "front door".  The guy following behind a mile or so is your "back door".  While you're in between...

In trucking terms that fast boy is your "front door".  The guy following behind a mile or so is your "back door".  While you're in between them, cruising 20 mph over the limit, you are in the "rocking chair"

If you're traveling cross country...700-800 miles a day it is courtesy or customary for you to spend time being front/back door.  That's old school trucking code...I dont see it much nowadays. 

That's great, thanks for bringing me up.to speed! Pun intended 😁

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Do truckers still use CB’s?

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Got yer ears on?  I see them for sale at the truck stops so some still do.  I've got a couple that my brother and I run when we make road trips.  

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Great, a topic about trucking and the dude is Mia. Oh the humanity !

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Vet57 wrote:

Great, a topic about trucking and the dude is Mia. Oh the humanity !

I'm a little concerned he hasn't shown up.

Is pro OK?

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Road tax. Fuel tax. Wheel tax. Special permits. Outrageous insurance. Steer tires are $800+. Inframe overhaul on an X15 Cummins $60k. We’re seeing a lot of these x15 not make 500k miles before they need overhauled. One fuel injector is $2000+. Chassis electrical is getting more and more advanced but less reliable and more expensive. The new digital dash in Peterbilt’s is like $7000+. Cummins raises prices by the week it seems. Turbos are nearing 10k. It’s bananas. I’ve had my little repair shop for 20 years now. We used to be able to remove the engine strip it down and have the block milled, uppers/lowers, water jackets replaced, counterbores cut, line bore and out of frame it replacing everything and the bill would be under 60k. Rates haven’t come up but the expenses are through the roof. 

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lumpy790 wrote:

Do truckers still use CB’s?

I made a short road trip last Saturday to buy a mineral feeder,   had my CB on all the way there and back and only thing I heard was assholes up north with mega-linears and echo mics clogging up the band with nonsensical blather.   Attempted many radio checks,  never got one reply.

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mvd61 wrote:
Road tax. Fuel tax. Wheel tax. Special permits. Outrageous insurance. Steer tires are $800+. Inframe overhaul on an X15 Cummins $60k. We’re seeing a lot of...

Road tax. Fuel tax. Wheel tax. Special permits. Outrageous insurance. Steer tires are $800+. Inframe overhaul on an X15 Cummins $60k. We’re seeing a lot of these x15 not make 500k miles before they need overhauled. One fuel injector is $2000+. Chassis electrical is getting more and more advanced but less reliable and more expensive. The new digital dash in Peterbilt’s is like $7000+. Cummins raises prices by the week it seems. Turbos are nearing 10k. It’s bananas. I’ve had my little repair shop for 20 years now. We used to be able to remove the engine strip it down and have the block milled, uppers/lowers, water jackets replaced, counterbores cut, line bore and out of frame it replacing everything and the bill would be under 60k. Rates haven’t come up but the expenses are through the roof. 

This is part of what everyone is sick of. It's the same with agriculture equipment and every other industry. Nobody's going to be able to put a dent in cost of goods when a corn harvester is a million dollars. Inflation wears many hats.

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12/10/2025 6:16am Edited Date/Time 12/10/2025 6:17am

Soooo much of the problem goes back to the Climate change hoax, even with ag equipment. 

I bought five trucks about 12years ago and they just about broke me. Between the BS emissions crap costing big $$ to keep up and not being able to get drivers to take care of equipment, it was just a hole to throw money into. 
 

I even quit flying for a year and drove some of the time myself, when I wasn’t playing truck mechanic. 


On the plus side, I got real good at changing oil and tires. 
 

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mvd61 wrote:
Road tax. Fuel tax. Wheel tax. Special permits. Outrageous insurance. Steer tires are $800+. Inframe overhaul on an X15 Cummins $60k. We’re seeing a lot of...

Road tax. Fuel tax. Wheel tax. Special permits. Outrageous insurance. Steer tires are $800+. Inframe overhaul on an X15 Cummins $60k. We’re seeing a lot of these x15 not make 500k miles before they need overhauled. One fuel injector is $2000+. Chassis electrical is getting more and more advanced but less reliable and more expensive. The new digital dash in Peterbilt’s is like $7000+. Cummins raises prices by the week it seems. Turbos are nearing 10k. It’s bananas. I’ve had my little repair shop for 20 years now. We used to be able to remove the engine strip it down and have the block milled, uppers/lowers, water jackets replaced, counterbores cut, line bore and out of frame it replacing everything and the bill would be under 60k. Rates haven’t come up but the expenses are through the roof. 

byke wrote:
This is part of what everyone is sick of. It's the same with agriculture equipment and every other industry. Nobody's going to be able to put...

This is part of what everyone is sick of. It's the same with agriculture equipment and every other industry. Nobody's going to be able to put a dent in cost of goods when a corn harvester is a million dollars. Inflation wears many hats.

John Deere ceo said this week that the key to cheaper farming is more tech lol. Yeah I’m sure the multi generation farmer doesn’t know what weeds look like and we definitely need ai weed detection. Fuck ai. We don’t need any of that shit. I don’t think advancing tech past where we are at today will benefit us. It’ll definitely benefit “them” with more control. And by them I don’t mean the farmers. 

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mvd61 wrote:
Road tax. Fuel tax. Wheel tax. Special permits. Outrageous insurance. Steer tires are $800+. Inframe overhaul on an X15 Cummins $60k. We’re seeing a lot of...

Road tax. Fuel tax. Wheel tax. Special permits. Outrageous insurance. Steer tires are $800+. Inframe overhaul on an X15 Cummins $60k. We’re seeing a lot of these x15 not make 500k miles before they need overhauled. One fuel injector is $2000+. Chassis electrical is getting more and more advanced but less reliable and more expensive. The new digital dash in Peterbilt’s is like $7000+. Cummins raises prices by the week it seems. Turbos are nearing 10k. It’s bananas. I’ve had my little repair shop for 20 years now. We used to be able to remove the engine strip it down and have the block milled, uppers/lowers, water jackets replaced, counterbores cut, line bore and out of frame it replacing everything and the bill would be under 60k. Rates haven’t come up but the expenses are through the roof. 

byke wrote:
This is part of what everyone is sick of. It's the same with agriculture equipment and every other industry. Nobody's going to be able to put...

This is part of what everyone is sick of. It's the same with agriculture equipment and every other industry. Nobody's going to be able to put a dent in cost of goods when a corn harvester is a million dollars. Inflation wears many hats.

mvd61 wrote:
John Deere ceo said this week that the key to cheaper farming is more tech lol. Yeah I’m sure the multi generation farmer doesn’t know what...

John Deere ceo said this week that the key to cheaper farming is more tech lol. Yeah I’m sure the multi generation farmer doesn’t know what weeds look like and we definitely need ai weed detection. Fuck ai. We don’t need any of that shit. I don’t think advancing tech past where we are at today will benefit us. It’ll definitely benefit “them” with more control. And by them I don’t mean the farmers. 

Exactly. These things aren’t advancements or innovations. They’re contrivances introduced by corporations in order to better control the market. The only way they can do this is if government regulations can restrict other companies from offering more simplistic equipment for less. The only way they can do this is to have government in their pocket. It’s Corporatocracy and it’s stifled true innovation and ultimately restricts our liberty. 

It ain’t got nothing to with being fair or unfair. It’s about efficiency within a paradigm that works in conjunction with the environment and is therefore sustainable. It’s about morality and rationality and not curb stomping future generations. Imo anyone who disagrees with this sentiment is an idiot and is completely out of touch with their creator. And if they don’t believe there is a creator then they are just out of touch with themselves. 

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Driving back and forth to Florida this Thanksgiving we hit a couple backups and wife caught that 95 was shut down by doing a google traffic search and we bailed off 95 

That got us talking about truckers using a CB and knowing what’s ahead so we were thinking about getting one for the RV.

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