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Never seen a honda or yamaha 65cc race bike in my life.
What else you got?
I'll blame him yet again.
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Mstock, if you want to push your ideological fantasies on people, then start another thread (with a premise on age limits for racing) --don't sabotage this one.
and the aftermarket companies that sell to all size bikes is also where you'll feel it - because riding gear that has a zipper - under the law
boots that contain metal hinges - under the law
brake pads - under the law
battery related parts - under the law
cables - under the law
FMF - under the law
I could go on and on....this is not about what age YOU think kids should start racing. This law WILL affect every rider and family that loves the sport.
If you want more government oversight in the sport, then keep on with your agenda....
I do agree with Alphado that once the stay was put in place "it appears" that people and industry stopped caring, as if it was just shelved "for later review"
That was a mistake if that is what went on.
mx_momma is right in that this affects a lot more than motorcycles, but just about every single thing made or sold to or for children 12 and under, motorcycle or not.
The manufacturers can just stop making anything "intended" for the under 13 crowd and keep everything else the same.
For 65's you have the KX65 and RM65. And of course the 65SX
For 85's you have the YZ85, RM85, KX85, 85SX. Honda has the 150R which under-12's can run.
All of those bike models are run in classes for kids under age 12.
If you want bike manufacturers to stop making bikes for the under 13 ages, you are playing right into the hands of the people who want to totally stamp out racing. It would take less than a generation to do so.
That issue being a promoter KNOWINGLY ALLOWING children 12 and under racing machines not intended for their age range. Machines registered lawfully with the federal government as being intended ONLY for children 13 and over.
Don't you think that opens the promoter and/or sanction (AMA, NMA or CMC, for example) up to liability?
New Jersey had this law for years, except it was 'under 14' I think. Racing did just fine then, whats the big deal now?
and let me ask this, if we "ban" any rider under 13, would it then be considered illegal to make rider gear, like boots, pants, helmets and jerseys, for riders under 13, since they cannot legally ride?
How do you think that would affect the off-road/dirtbike/motocross industry?
If PC and FMF are no longer making pipes for 85's and under, how much of a hit do you think that would be to their bottomline and how do you think they will make up for those losses?
Some of you are obviously not fans of kids, we get it, lol but I find it hard to believe that there aren't more people in the sport today then when "sears made a $250" bike...and if you figure inflation, that's about the same as a PW today
and ALL levels of bikes have gotten faster and more improved, not just mini's.
The law would also make it illegal for ME to sell our bikes, so if the law goes in place, I would be sitting on 20,000 worth of bikes
supercross races and national races are filling huge stadiums with spectators, including kids that dream of riding there one day, too
everyone has their own opinion, mine happens to be that this law WILL be detrimental to the entire motorsports community
Here's a link to Cobra's blog about the issue:
http://blog.cobramotorcycle.com/
It is true that if you take away the youth from this sport, you will disenfranchise an entire generation, and see the eventual demise of this sport. If you want to go back to the "good ole days" then bust out your indian have at it...
Its plenty safe. This law is STUPID and needs our attention. I had a cobra 50 for my son when he was 6 and sold it right away, I wont put my kid on one. However, there are kids who do fine with them . I want more choices not less. I believe there are plenty of laws already, we don't need any more. Keep in mind, here in MN if you let your kid use a machine that was intended for a age above his YOU can get a ticket and have charges brought against you by the state for letting your child ride the machine. So putting a sticker on them is NOT the answer. We have to speak up people, this is just the begining and we need to voice our opinions that this law is unfair. If YOU think that minis are too dangerous then dont buy one. Taking away others rights because YOU dont like something is called communism. I personally dont really care what my neighbor is doing, is none of my business......
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Honda may not make a race ready 50 ,like ktm or cobra,,but they do sell 100's of thousands of Crf 50' 70's 100's 150's that are for family fun and learning to ride...When they lose all this $$,,where do you think they'll make it up ?
I agree ,the Mfg's should have been fighting this hard the last couple years and all they've been doing is stepping on their dicks with golf shoes accomplishing nothing..but we need to stand up as a community..the MX community and make our voice heard..
Sincerly,
Erik,,,,, a retired racer that is just a parent of 2 mini racers.
So that will just be an excuse to raise the prices when they lose that market? Sounds as fishy as gas prices to me.
Sorry, I need more hard proof that this will be detrimental to our sport in the long term...
The parts availability issues would only be short term problems.
By the way, I'm not in my 50's(yet) but have put two kids through racing on 50's, 60's and 80's.
Ever see one of these?
Remember - George Bush (a Republican) signed this into law. It was meant to stop the badly made Chinese toys and stuff from being imported into the US, but it had other effects.
I'd see dozens at every race
Why did Honda quit making it then if tons of them were sold and tons of shit was sold?
Why did Suzuki stop making the PE175 when it sold out every year?
Why did Kawasaki do the same with their crazy successful KDX175?
Honda made the MR50
Yamaha made a YZ60 and still makes a PW50
Suzuki made a RM50
Kawasaki still makes a KX65
Then there's the Indian 50's the Italijet's and all the others....
I am going to assume that you're either laying bait, incredibly stupid or incredibly new to the sport.
I just don't see how losing this part of the market would be THAT detrimental to the sport... This sport has undergone so many changes in the past and still come out fine.
This argument will probably be a mute point anyway because, someone will still make a 50 or 65 that will meet the lead obligations, or they will get past this ruling somehow with enough people pushing for it. Sorry, but I'll be over here with Mstock and Alphado watching from the sidelines.
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