Charlie Kirk Shot at university campus

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9/26/2025 1:08pm Edited Date/Time 9/26/2025 1:12pm
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Gay is not a problem in general, you're helping prove my point that they are hypocrites. Not only hypocrites but dangerous that they demonize groups. In...

Gay is not a problem in general, you're helping prove my point that they are hypocrites. Not only hypocrites but dangerous that they demonize groups. In the past, people who claim to be religious understood that it was moral to be inclusive of all. Not so much in 2025.

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It seems like you're saying that the worst thing about religious people is that they all have a tendency to demonize folks they disagree with?

Interesting tactic. 

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Yes, and before you make parallels to myself remember that I am not actively campaigning hate speech against any group, whether they are a majority or...

Yes, and before you make parallels to myself remember that I am not actively campaigning hate speech against any group, whether they are a majority or a minority.  I also don't pretend to love everyone. A good example is that I will openly hate on nazis or child molestors, they are worthless.

The fact that you included Natzi’s already discredited yourself. When you say Natzi exactly who are you referring to? When it comes to “Gays and trans” god says to love everyone. But he did not say to change your god given sex. Trans people are mentally disturbed and ill no other way to put it. They are so lost they end up in that position. I want no part of that, it is also blasphemy. Do I hate them and talk shit on them? No, but calling a spade a spade needs to happen. 

A few things I see in your ideas of hate speech vs reality. The conservatives will say gays this gays that. Well that’s because they are gay and it is what they are. That isn’t hate speech. Just don’t expect everyone to coddle up and love you and say everything is his peachy. 

Conservatives call things for what they actually are and many say it is hate speech. Whereas on the other hand the liberals are actual using hate speech with the natzi, transphobia, fascists maga cult etc that is real hate speech and people are not mentally healthy and acting upon the media, governors of blue states, mayors are all fighting for the cesspool that are major liberal cities. Homelessness, drug issues, crime, mental illness it all the cesspool of liberal policies that do not stand for particular pillars or morals. 

Donald Trump is a loud mouth, zero other way to put it. But he does not insight violence. Major difference beaten parties and living with morals. One lacks what the other stands on

I want to ask you why political crimes are all left wing politics? I know the answer and many others on this forum do. We also know there would be holdouts left and holdouts are the ones who refuse to look inward first and say what can I do better for myself, where have I done wrong, what could I do to be better? 

Here’s my point. I honestly do not see how anyone can equate the two and say Trump is speaking violent rhetoric, he’ll he doesn’t even speak the same disdain that Hilary has for making America great again. 

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🤣 Aren’t you gonna make a 2-stroke comment to bring the whole “core thing” home? 💪🏼

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TeamGreen wrote:

🤣 Aren’t you gonna make a 2-stroke comment to bring the whole “core thing” home? 💪🏼

Chance1216 wrote:
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So much Braaaap! 

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TeamGreen wrote:

🤣 Aren’t you gonna make a 2-stroke comment to bring the whole “core thing” home? 💪🏼

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TeamGreen wrote:

So much Braaaap! 

Two strokes?  I’m talking TT500!  Give me an overweight, underpowered pig with 6” on each each, of which only 3” were effective!  Core!

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TeamGreen wrote:

So much Braaaap! 

LoudLove wrote:

Two strokes?  I’m talking TT500!  Give me an overweight, underpowered pig with 6” on each each, of which only 3” were effective!  Core!

Sounds like a “Rodeo Show” in the Whoops!🤣

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TeamGreen wrote:

So much Braaaap! 

LoudLove wrote:

Two strokes?  I’m talking TT500!  Give me an overweight, underpowered pig with 6” on each each, of which only 3” were effective!  Core!

TeamGreen wrote:

Sounds like a “Rodeo Show” in the Whoops!🤣

Whoops?  On a TT500?  Has that ever been attempted?

9/26/2025 3:12pm
LoudLove wrote:

Two strokes?  I’m talking TT500!  Give me an overweight, underpowered pig with 6” on each each, of which only 3” were effective!  Core!

TeamGreen wrote:

Sounds like a “Rodeo Show” in the Whoops!🤣

LoudLove wrote:

Whoops?  On a TT500?  Has that ever been attempted?

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TeamGreen wrote:

Sounds like a “Rodeo Show” in the Whoops!🤣

LoudLove wrote:

Whoops?  On a TT500?  Has that ever been attempted?

OH MOMMY!😎

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TeamGreen wrote:

Sounds like a “Rodeo Show” in the Whoops!🤣

LoudLove wrote:

Whoops?  On a TT500?  Has that ever been attempted?

My first steed was a 1987 yz125. Got off my cousin for 300 bucks.  Wild times haha

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Some of you are tone deaf. Look at the title of the thread. Look at what you are posting in here.

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First of all, I’m not an American but Canada is similar in many respects and we know a lot about you. I think what you’re saying...

First of all, I’m not an American but Canada is similar in many respects and we know a lot about you. I think what you’re saying is highly problematic. Does anyone remember McCarthy? I don’t think that going after unAmerican people was a great idea then and it isn’t now. It’s actually rather frightening. I’ll address a few things you suggested. 

Fundamentalist Islam is awful but not all Muslims are fundamentalists and far from terrorists. I think their religion is false, but I also think Christianity is false. Is atheism also unAmerican? I’d rather not privilege or forbid any religion or lack thereof. If you’re not Catholic, I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if someone deemed Catholicism the true American religion and outlawed birth control. It’s a fundamental principle of your constitution that the government should not establish a religion. I think that’s a very good thing. 

I’m a free market capitalist but Marx wasn’t wrong about everything - and his ideas aren’t generally well understood. Marxism, communism , and socialism are not synonymous. But certainly Marx was a socialist. On that note, I think Cooperatives are great ideas and lots of farmers are members of them where I live. They are closer to the socialist ideal of the workers owning the means of production than government ownership. Co-op members own the business and receive patronage dividends on their purchases (often purchasing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of crop inputs). Does the socialist nature of these co-ops mean they’re evil and unAmerican? 

I think wokeism is very bad for academic freedom and bad for freedom in general. But by forbidding it you’ve not defeated it. Charlie Kirk was working to defeat it the only feasible way: By using persuasion. 

People can do things at odds with American values. I was at a conference where Antonin Scalia said that he abhors flag burning but thinks it’s unconstitutional for it to be illegal. That’s the one and only point of agreement - the constitution. People will disagree about what the constitution means but that’s something to argue about in a robust marketplace of ideas. Then you vote and accept the outcome. What if a Marxist party wins a free and fair election? I’m sure you’d hate it, but there’s plenty of people who hate the current government. It won’t do to say: But I’m right! Everyone thinks that. 

People need to accept the fact of disagreement - and that it cuts to the core of our values and conceptions of justice. My criticism of trans activists is that they don’t accept that fact and they insist that everyone should affirm their perspective of the truth. That same criticism can be applied to anyone who wants to impose their views in a way that forbids dissent. I’d wish to avoid totalitarianism regardless of which side of the political spectrum it’s from. 

If your solution is to forbid things, that may work when you’re party has power but will be undone if you lose power - either democratically or by force. The consensus underpinning the social contract is based on the ideal of the rule of law and respect for the liberty and autonomy of citizens to the extent consistent with equality and protection from harm. This is a thin consensus based more on a commitment to certain types of political and legal processes than any substantive moral comprehensive framework.  Unless you want to sacrifice liberty, that’s probably the best you can do. 

Radical Muslims want to kill all of us infidels. Moderate Muslims want radical Muslims to kill all of us infidels. Sorry, but that's how I see it. 

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Some of you are tone deaf. Look at the title of the thread. Look at what you are posting in here.

Deleted the GIF. You’re right.. But, the exhaust stays. 😉

 

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TXDirt wrote:

Some of you are tone deaf. Look at the title of the thread. Look at what you are posting in here.

If Charlie was here…watching this thread unfold…& seeing it FINALLY have some dirt bikes in it…?

He’d chuckle. 

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TXDirt wrote:

Some of you are tone deaf. Look at the title of the thread. Look at what you are posting in here.

TeamGreen wrote:

If Charlie was here…watching this thread unfold…& seeing it FINALLY have some dirt bikes in it…?

He’d chuckle. 

The arguing vanished as well. 

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TXDirt wrote:

Some of you are tone deaf. Look at the title of the thread. Look at what you are posting in here.

TeamGreen wrote:

If Charlie was here…watching this thread unfold…& seeing it FINALLY have some dirt bikes in it…?

He’d chuckle. 

Chance1216 wrote:

The arguing vanished as well. 

Hence…Dialogue

The man was a Godsend.

Peace…Grace…to him and his. 

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TXDirt wrote:

Some of you are tone deaf. Look at the title of the thread. Look at what you are posting in here.

TeamGreen wrote:

If Charlie was here…watching this thread unfold…& seeing it FINALLY have some dirt bikes in it…?

He’d chuckle. 

He would for sure.💯👍🏻

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TeamGreen wrote:

If Charlie was here…watching this thread unfold…& seeing it FINALLY have some dirt bikes in it…?

He’d chuckle. 

Chance1216 wrote:

The arguing vanished as well. 

TeamGreen wrote:

Hence…Dialogue

The man was a Godsend.

Peace…Grace…to him and his. 

When I head the news I honestly couldn't believe it.  The one man, who speaks eloquently, speaks vey well, showed compassion for all, and lead through jesus, and morals.  So they shoot him. Got it... yet they want us to believe that it goes " both ways". I normally stay silent but Charlies death was something else altogether and really really showed us all the mentally ill individuals who can not reason, who expect things just because, who are the loudest voice in the room(also the weakest is the loudest voice in the room). Right now though, people are really disturbed and when they don't see it and others are constantly pointing it all out. Well here we are.  It is sad

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MPJC wrote:
First of all, I’m not an American but Canada is similar in many respects and we know a lot about you. I think what you’re saying...

First of all, I’m not an American but Canada is similar in many respects and we know a lot about you. I think what you’re saying is highly problematic. Does anyone remember McCarthy? I don’t think that going after unAmerican people was a great idea then and it isn’t now. It’s actually rather frightening. I’ll address a few things you suggested. 

Fundamentalist Islam is awful but not all Muslims are fundamentalists and far from terrorists. I think their religion is false, but I also think Christianity is false. Is atheism also unAmerican? I’d rather not privilege or forbid any religion or lack thereof. If you’re not Catholic, I’m sure you wouldn’t like it if someone deemed Catholicism the true American religion and outlawed birth control. It’s a fundamental principle of your constitution that the government should not establish a religion. I think that’s a very good thing. 

I’m a free market capitalist but Marx wasn’t wrong about everything - and his ideas aren’t generally well understood. Marxism, communism , and socialism are not synonymous. But certainly Marx was a socialist. On that note, I think Cooperatives are great ideas and lots of farmers are members of them where I live. They are closer to the socialist ideal of the workers owning the means of production than government ownership. Co-op members own the business and receive patronage dividends on their purchases (often purchasing hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of crop inputs). Does the socialist nature of these co-ops mean they’re evil and unAmerican? 

I think wokeism is very bad for academic freedom and bad for freedom in general. But by forbidding it you’ve not defeated it. Charlie Kirk was working to defeat it the only feasible way: By using persuasion. 

People can do things at odds with American values. I was at a conference where Antonin Scalia said that he abhors flag burning but thinks it’s unconstitutional for it to be illegal. That’s the one and only point of agreement - the constitution. People will disagree about what the constitution means but that’s something to argue about in a robust marketplace of ideas. Then you vote and accept the outcome. What if a Marxist party wins a free and fair election? I’m sure you’d hate it, but there’s plenty of people who hate the current government. It won’t do to say: But I’m right! Everyone thinks that. 

People need to accept the fact of disagreement - and that it cuts to the core of our values and conceptions of justice. My criticism of trans activists is that they don’t accept that fact and they insist that everyone should affirm their perspective of the truth. That same criticism can be applied to anyone who wants to impose their views in a way that forbids dissent. I’d wish to avoid totalitarianism regardless of which side of the political spectrum it’s from. 

If your solution is to forbid things, that may work when you’re party has power but will be undone if you lose power - either democratically or by force. The consensus underpinning the social contract is based on the ideal of the rule of law and respect for the liberty and autonomy of citizens to the extent consistent with equality and protection from harm. This is a thin consensus based more on a commitment to certain types of political and legal processes than any substantive moral comprehensive framework.  Unless you want to sacrifice liberty, that’s probably the best you can do. 

Radical Muslims want to kill all of us infidels. Moderate Muslims want radical Muslims to kill all of us infidels. Sorry, but that's how I see...

Radical Muslims want to kill all of us infidels. Moderate Muslims want radical Muslims to kill all of us infidels. Sorry, but that's how I see it. 

Khamzat is Muslim. He doesn’t sound like he wants us dead. I hope this is representative of most moderate Muslims  I have know way of knowing if it is. But I sincerely hope what you said isn’t true. 
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TXDirt wrote:

Some of you are tone deaf. Look at the title of the thread. Look at what you are posting in here.

TeamGreen wrote:

If Charlie was here…watching this thread unfold…& seeing it FINALLY have some dirt bikes in it…?

He’d chuckle. 

He would for sure.💯👍🏻

Exactly. Nothing’s bringing Charlie back. Stewing over it leads to nothing. Learn and live…

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your post reminds me of the movie Detroit Rock City.  i've never liked KISS, not even a little bit, but i fuckin' love that movie.  it's...

your post reminds me of the movie Detroit Rock City.  i've never liked KISS, not even a little bit, but i fuckin' love that movie.  it's a 1-2 watch per year for me. the religious mom, the rebellious teenagers, the road-trip, it's got it all.

and Maiden fuckin rocks.  Trooper gets me going no matter my mood.  The Protomen have a really badass cover of it, it's different but in a good way.

on the tranny thing, i couldn't give two fucks what someone wants to be as long as they just live their lives and let everyone else live theirs.  unfortunately that's not the case and the "movement" has to shove it down everyone's throats, make everyone accept it. children included. and that to me is the biggest indication that it's a mental illness.  no sane human would force anything on a child.  yet here we are.

 

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Peely, I’m giving you a homework assignment:  KISS’ debut album in all its lo-fi glory.  Sure, it’s got a couple of filler tunes (I’m looking at...

Peely, I’m giving you a homework assignment:  KISS’ debut album in all its lo-fi glory.  Sure, it’s got a couple of filler tunes (I’m looking at you “Nothing to Lose” and “Kissing Time”), but classics like “Strutter”, “Deuce”, “Cold Gin”, and the Peter Criss-sung “Black Diamond” absolutely make this album a classic.  I’ll need your report by Monday COB…


LL

peelout wrote:

it's not going to happen.  i'll stick my dork in a toaster again before i ever willingly listen to a KISS album 

AGAIN???


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I’m about 3 laps down on this one. 

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I listened to a preacher once give a sermon called “There’s a Yes in every mess”. Basically, no matter what bad things happen, something good comes out of it. When Rush Limbaugh died, I thought that there would never be another one as good to replace him. Then along came Charlie. When Charlie was an assassinate, I thought a great voice was silenced. But now, look at all of the people stepping up and getting involved in TPUSA, continuing Charlie’s work.

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during Cold War, what was our response to communism?

After Pearl Harbor what was our response?


What is our response now? To consistently teach acceptance of the groups that are directly at odds with American values.


How’s it going?

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I'm not seeing how equating Charlie to Rush is contributing anything good to memories of Charlie.

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I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches the 30-06 rifle found in the woods?  Or do they hold that evidence for the court case?  Seems like that would silence a lot of the conspiracies flying around.

Also, check out the crazy coincidences of the old movie "Snake Eyes" with Nicolas Cage:

"A 1998 Nicolas Cage film bears a shocking resemblance to Charlie Kirk's killing. Viral videos on the internet show how events in the movie Snake Eyes are eerily similar to what happened on September 10 at the Utah Valley University campus. A scene in the film shows the assassination of a man who plays the Secretary of Defence and is attending a boxing match. He was shot at the venue of the match. Shockingly, the date it happens in the movie is also September 10. Nothing to talk about here? Well, the name of the character who is killed is Charles Kirkland. Charlie Kirk's full name is Charles James Kirk. The person is shot in the neck. Kirkland was also fatally shot in the neck. It gets weirder. The name of the person who kills Kirkland in Snake Eyes is Tyler, the executioner, a heavyweight boxer. As everyone knows, the person arrested for Charlie Kirk's assassination is named Tyler Robinson. People are shocked to see the stark resemblance between the scene of the film and the real-life incident involving Kirk and Tyler."

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I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches...

I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches the 30-06 rifle found in the woods?  Or do they hold that evidence for the court case?  Seems like that would silence a lot of the conspiracies flying around.

Also, check out the crazy coincidences of the old movie "Snake Eyes" with Nicolas Cage:

"A 1998 Nicolas Cage film bears a shocking resemblance to Charlie Kirk's killing. Viral videos on the internet show how events in the movie Snake Eyes are eerily similar to what happened on September 10 at the Utah Valley University campus. A scene in the film shows the assassination of a man who plays the Secretary of Defence and is attending a boxing match. He was shot at the venue of the match. Shockingly, the date it happens in the movie is also September 10. Nothing to talk about here? Well, the name of the character who is killed is Charles Kirkland. Charlie Kirk's full name is Charles James Kirk. The person is shot in the neck. Kirkland was also fatally shot in the neck. It gets weirder. The name of the person who kills Kirkland in Snake Eyes is Tyler, the executioner, a heavyweight boxer. As everyone knows, the person arrested for Charlie Kirk's assassination is named Tyler Robinson. People are shocked to see the stark resemblance between the scene of the film and the real-life incident involving Kirk and Tyler."

that's pretty wild stuff, first i've heard any of it.

as an aside, my wife 100% doesn't believe in coincidence

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I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches...

I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches the 30-06 rifle found in the woods?  Or do they hold that evidence for the court case?  Seems like that would silence a lot of the conspiracies flying around.

Also, check out the crazy coincidences of the old movie "Snake Eyes" with Nicolas Cage:

"A 1998 Nicolas Cage film bears a shocking resemblance to Charlie Kirk's killing. Viral videos on the internet show how events in the movie Snake Eyes are eerily similar to what happened on September 10 at the Utah Valley University campus. A scene in the film shows the assassination of a man who plays the Secretary of Defence and is attending a boxing match. He was shot at the venue of the match. Shockingly, the date it happens in the movie is also September 10. Nothing to talk about here? Well, the name of the character who is killed is Charles Kirkland. Charlie Kirk's full name is Charles James Kirk. The person is shot in the neck. Kirkland was also fatally shot in the neck. It gets weirder. The name of the person who kills Kirkland in Snake Eyes is Tyler, the executioner, a heavyweight boxer. As everyone knows, the person arrested for Charlie Kirk's assassination is named Tyler Robinson. People are shocked to see the stark resemblance between the scene of the film and the real-life incident involving Kirk and Tyler."

Since the shooting, the bullet was not verified match, the area where Charlie was shot is undergoing immediate construction and renovations, the Dairy Queen where Tyler Roberts was spotted 17 minutes after the shooting is coincidentally stripped clean and now an empty restaurant. Other things have come to light, much are starting to look at his microphone as a possible weapon(pneumatic air pistol is the theory). Not my belief the kid was the shooter, and they tied it in a bow etc.    

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I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches...

I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches the 30-06 rifle found in the woods?  Or do they hold that evidence for the court case?  Seems like that would silence a lot of the conspiracies flying around.

Also, check out the crazy coincidences of the old movie "Snake Eyes" with Nicolas Cage:

"A 1998 Nicolas Cage film bears a shocking resemblance to Charlie Kirk's killing. Viral videos on the internet show how events in the movie Snake Eyes are eerily similar to what happened on September 10 at the Utah Valley University campus. A scene in the film shows the assassination of a man who plays the Secretary of Defence and is attending a boxing match. He was shot at the venue of the match. Shockingly, the date it happens in the movie is also September 10. Nothing to talk about here? Well, the name of the character who is killed is Charles Kirkland. Charlie Kirk's full name is Charles James Kirk. The person is shot in the neck. Kirkland was also fatally shot in the neck. It gets weirder. The name of the person who kills Kirkland in Snake Eyes is Tyler, the executioner, a heavyweight boxer. As everyone knows, the person arrested for Charlie Kirk's assassination is named Tyler Robinson. People are shocked to see the stark resemblance between the scene of the film and the real-life incident involving Kirk and Tyler."

Zycki11 wrote:
Since the shooting, the bullet was not verified match, the area where Charlie was shot is undergoing immediate construction and renovations, the Dairy Queen where Tyler...

Since the shooting, the bullet was not verified match, the area where Charlie was shot is undergoing immediate construction and renovations, the Dairy Queen where Tyler Roberts was spotted 17 minutes after the shooting is coincidentally stripped clean and now an empty restaurant. Other things have come to light, much are starting to look at his microphone as a possible weapon(pneumatic air pistol is the theory). Not my belief the kid was the shooter, and they tied it in a bow etc.    

This is really wild. Candace Owens seems to be driving a lot of the conspiracy theory from what I understand at this point.

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I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches...

I've been busy and not able to keep up with any developments in this case.  Did the FBI ever announce the bullet that killed Charlie matches the 30-06 rifle found in the woods?  Or do they hold that evidence for the court case?  Seems like that would silence a lot of the conspiracies flying around.

Also, check out the crazy coincidences of the old movie "Snake Eyes" with Nicolas Cage:

"A 1998 Nicolas Cage film bears a shocking resemblance to Charlie Kirk's killing. Viral videos on the internet show how events in the movie Snake Eyes are eerily similar to what happened on September 10 at the Utah Valley University campus. A scene in the film shows the assassination of a man who plays the Secretary of Defence and is attending a boxing match. He was shot at the venue of the match. Shockingly, the date it happens in the movie is also September 10. Nothing to talk about here? Well, the name of the character who is killed is Charles Kirkland. Charlie Kirk's full name is Charles James Kirk. The person is shot in the neck. Kirkland was also fatally shot in the neck. It gets weirder. The name of the person who kills Kirkland in Snake Eyes is Tyler, the executioner, a heavyweight boxer. As everyone knows, the person arrested for Charlie Kirk's assassination is named Tyler Robinson. People are shocked to see the stark resemblance between the scene of the film and the real-life incident involving Kirk and Tyler."

Zycki11 wrote:
Since the shooting, the bullet was not verified match, the area where Charlie was shot is undergoing immediate construction and renovations, the Dairy Queen where Tyler...

Since the shooting, the bullet was not verified match, the area where Charlie was shot is undergoing immediate construction and renovations, the Dairy Queen where Tyler Roberts was spotted 17 minutes after the shooting is coincidentally stripped clean and now an empty restaurant. Other things have come to light, much are starting to look at his microphone as a possible weapon(pneumatic air pistol is the theory). Not my belief the kid was the shooter, and they tied it in a bow etc.    

I've seen a lot of these theories, but I'm assuming they will come out and say the bullet is a match to the rifle found in the woods, which is supposedly Tyler's grandfathers rifle, which has Tyler's DNA on it.   If the bullet is a match, then I'm sure it's a fairly easy case.  I'm sure they have plenty more surveillance footage they are not showing us, and they can piece it all together from the rifle to the bullet that was inside Charlie. 

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