MC VS RD

Racer111 wrote:

Dude, you are looking dumber and dumber. Go on youtube and search "1996 AMA 250CC MOTOCROSS PART 1" then go to part 2, part 3 etc...Every...

Dude, you are looking dumber and dumber. Go on youtube and search "1996 AMA 250CC MOTOCROSS PART 1" then go to part 2, part 3 etc...Every 250cc National in 1996 is there. Mcgrath owned everyone that year. Your facts are distorted! MC owned Emig week in and week out.

Prince1 wrote:

Did you watch the last races, STEEL CITY sticks out in my mind, and then in 97 EMIG had 7 1-1 sweeps over MC infact MC...

Did you watch the last races, STEEL CITY sticks out in my mind, and then in 97 EMIG had 7 1-1 sweeps over MC infact MC never beat him that whole year!!!!

MX4EVR wrote:

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC...

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC is the alltime KING and thats fact)
BUT,,,,,,
Emig first year 250SX, 5th place, then then next year, 4th, then 3rd and then in 96, 2nd and then finally in 97, He beat MC and got the title. NO LUCK
dont cry about his zook and only 2 weeks to train, blah blah f-ing blah. Emig won and he whipped his ass! and 96 and 97 outdoor titles to!!!! I think in 97 he actually won 10 races that year and like Prince1 said, 7 1-1 sweeps!


then the pop can bongs and the rockstar lifestyle sunk him in the shitter!


Dungeony is way off from this kind of status yet. Lets see when the gate drops in Jan if Stewart, Reed, Whimdahm, and Villy show up, Ryan D will have a big wake up call

MX4EVR wrote:

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC...

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC is the alltime KING and thats fact)
BUT,,,,,,
Emig first year 250SX, 5th place, then then next year, 4th, then 3rd and then in 96, 2nd and then finally in 97, He beat MC and got the title. NO LUCK
dont cry about his zook and only 2 weeks to train, blah blah f-ing blah. Emig won and he whipped his ass! and 96 and 97 outdoor titles to!!!! I think in 97 he actually won 10 races that year and like Prince1 said, 7 1-1 sweeps!


then the pop can bongs and the rockstar lifestyle sunk him in the shitter!


Dungeony is way off from this kind of status yet. Lets see when the gate drops in Jan if Stewart, Reed, Whimdahm, and Villy show up, Ryan D will have a big wake up call

MBBadgers wrote:

Didn't Emig get the title because MC refused to race Vegas in the dark with shitty lighting? It wasn't because he beat MC, he didn't even...

Didn't Emig get the title because MC refused to race Vegas in the dark with shitty lighting? It wasn't because he beat MC, he didn't even race against him that night. I believe LaRocco sat out too? Anyone else there that night?

MX4EVR wrote:

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC...

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC is the alltime KING and thats fact)
BUT,,,,,,
Emig first year 250SX, 5th place, then then next year, 4th, then 3rd and then in 96, 2nd and then finally in 97, He beat MC and got the title. NO LUCK
dont cry about his zook and only 2 weeks to train, blah blah f-ing blah. Emig won and he whipped his ass! and 96 and 97 outdoor titles to!!!! I think in 97 he actually won 10 races that year and like Prince1 said, 7 1-1 sweeps!


then the pop can bongs and the rockstar lifestyle sunk him in the shitter!


Dungeony is way off from this kind of status yet. Lets see when the gate drops in Jan if Stewart, Reed, Whimdahm, and Villy show up, Ryan D will have a big wake up call

MBBadgers wrote:

Didn't Emig get the title because MC refused to race Vegas in the dark with shitty lighting? It wasn't because he beat MC, he didn't even...

Didn't Emig get the title because MC refused to race Vegas in the dark with shitty lighting? It wasn't because he beat MC, he didn't even race against him that night. I believe LaRocco sat out too? Anyone else there that night?

MX4EVR wrote:

that was 1995 not 1997

MX4EVR wrote:

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC...

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC is the alltime KING and thats fact)
BUT,,,,,,
Emig first year 250SX, 5th place, then then next year, 4th, then 3rd and then in 96, 2nd and then finally in 97, He beat MC and got the title. NO LUCK
dont cry about his zook and only 2 weeks to train, blah blah f-ing blah. Emig won and he whipped his ass! and 96 and 97 outdoor titles to!!!! I think in 97 he actually won 10 races that year and like Prince1 said, 7 1-1 sweeps!


then the pop can bongs and the rockstar lifestyle sunk him in the shitter!


Dungeony is way off from this kind of status yet. Lets see when the gate drops in Jan if Stewart, Reed, Whimdahm, and Villy show up, Ryan D will have a big wake up call

jeffro503 wrote:

[b]- Ranked 1st on the all-time combined AMA Supercross/Motocross wins list with 89 career AMA national victories.[/b] I'm diggin' what your posting....but this line above is...

- Ranked 1st on the all-time combined AMA Supercross/Motocross wins list with 89 career AMA national victories.

I'm diggin' what your posting....but this line above is incorrect. RC had a total of 150 combined wins under his belt between SX and MX.

Prince1 wrote:

Dungey would destroy MC in outdoors, in SX probably not. When MC strated to win Bradshaw quit as well as Stanton. Emig wasnt a threat (SX)...

Dungey would destroy MC in outdoors, in SX probably not. When MC strated to win Bradshaw quit as well as Stanton. Emig wasnt a threat (SX) till 1996. In SX Jeremy has the most numbers by a mile but not the hardest comp. So OVERALL in a season if you were to total the points from SX and MX DUNGEY would easily win.

Prince1 wrote:

Dungey would destroy MC in outdoors, in SX probably not. When MC strated to win Bradshaw quit as well as Stanton. Emig wasnt a threat (SX)...

Dungey would destroy MC in outdoors, in SX probably not. When MC strated to win Bradshaw quit as well as Stanton. Emig wasnt a threat (SX) till 1996. In SX Jeremy has the most numbers by a mile but not the hardest comp. So OVERALL in a season if you were to total the points from SX and MX DUNGEY would easily win.

FroDiddy wrote:

Hahahaha! Kids these days...

Racer111 wrote:

Blah, blah, blah about no testing? Yeah, testing is no big deal on a bike that he never rode in his life!! What was I thinking...

Blah, blah, blah about no testing? Yeah, testing is no big deal on a bike that he never rode in his life!! What was I thinking? Are you really that dumb to think testing and setting up a bike isn't important???

MC went 1-1 in more races in 1996 than Emig did in 97! The difference is that in 97" MC hated the bike so much that he only rode it at the races. Didn't even train during the week. Emig did ride and train in 96" and won the title due to bad luck for MC's off track incidents. MC STILL almost won the SX title in 97" and had it not been for a flat tire one race and stepping on a piece of glass and slicing his foot wide open right before the last race, Emig would have went down again.

MX4EVR wrote:

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC...

also, Emig didn't take to SX as fast as MC did so if you look at the facts (even though I will point out that MC is the alltime KING and thats fact)
BUT,,,,,,
Emig first year 250SX, 5th place, then then next year, 4th, then 3rd and then in 96, 2nd and then finally in 97, He beat MC and got the title. NO LUCK
dont cry about his zook and only 2 weeks to train, blah blah f-ing blah. Emig won and he whipped his ass! and 96 and 97 outdoor titles to!!!! I think in 97 he actually won 10 races that year and like Prince1 said, 7 1-1 sweeps!


then the pop can bongs and the rockstar lifestyle sunk him in the shitter!


Dungeony is way off from this kind of status yet. Lets see when the gate drops in Jan if Stewart, Reed, Whimdahm, and Villy show up, Ryan D will have a big wake up call

Racer111 wrote:

Blah, blah, blah about no testing? Yeah, testing is no big deal on a bike that he never rode in his life!! What was I thinking...

Blah, blah, blah about no testing? Yeah, testing is no big deal on a bike that he never rode in his life!! What was I thinking? Are you really that dumb to think testing and setting up a bike isn't important???

MC went 1-1 in more races in 1996 than Emig did in 97! The difference is that in 97" MC hated the bike so much that he only rode it at the races. Didn't even train during the week. Emig did ride and train in 96" and won the title due to bad luck for MC's off track incidents. MC STILL almost won the SX title in 97" and had it not been for a flat tire one race and stepping on a piece of glass and slicing his foot wide open right before the last race, Emig would have went down again.

MotoGuido wrote:

I have the bar to bar 1997 video cassette baby! MC was a close second even with a flat at Charlotte!Jeremy McGrath is:- Ranked 1st on...

I have the bar to bar 1997 video cassette baby! MC was a close second even with a flat at Charlotte!




Jeremy McGrath is:

- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series win list with 72 career victories.

- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series Championships list with seven titles.

- Ranked 1st on the all-time combined AMA Supercross/Motocross wins list with 89 career AMA national victories.

- Ranked 1st with the single-season record of 14 AMA Supercross wins set in 1996.

- Ranked 1st with longest winning streak in AMA Supercross with 13 consecutive victories in 1996.

- Ranked 1st (tied with Ricky Carmichael) for most AMA Supercross/Motocross championships with 8 total. (McGrath 7 SX, 1 250MX/Carmichael 2 SX, 3 125MX, 3 250MX)

- Ranked 1st with most consecutive seasons with an AMA Supercross win at nine (Jeff Ward second with eight).

- Ranked 1st on all-time AMA 125 Regional Supercross wins list with 13.



Additional stats



- McGrath is one of only two riders (the other is Ron Lechien) to win AMA Supercross races with three manufacturers. McGrath won AMA Supercross events with Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha. (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 144 AMA Supercross races and won exactly half of them (.500 winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 95 AMA Motocross Nationals and won a total of 17 (.179 winning percentage).

- AMA Supercross/Motocross combined: 239 total races with 89 wins (.372 career winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- AMA 125 West Region Supercross: 31 career races with 13 wins (.419 winning percentage).

- McGrath's nationals wins by manufacturer: Honda, 60; Yamaha, 27; Suzuki 2. (Does not include 125 Supercross).
http://www.thumpertalk.com/...owthread.php?t=65013
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Never bring up Ryan Bungey in the same sentence as McGrath again. Unless the sentence is, "Ryan Bungey cannot fill McGrath's shoes" or something similar. hahaha

DBerg wrote:

MC 91 mx - 0 wins 125 92 mx- 0 wins 125 93 mx- 2 wins 125 94mx- 0 wins 250 95 mx- 7 wins 250...

MC 91 mx - 0 wins 125 92 mx- 0 wins 125

93 mx- 2 wins 125

94mx- 0 wins 250

95 mx- 7 wins 250 Defending champ is hurt, henry hurt, etc

96 mx 7 wins 250 faltered in last round

97 mx 0 wins

98 mx 1 win



Compared to....



- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series win list with 72 career victories.

- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series Championships list with seven titles.

- Ranked 1st with the single-season record of 14 AMA Supercross wins set in 1996.

- Ranked 1st with longest winning streak in AMA Supercross with 13 consecutive victories in 1996.

- Ranked 1st (tied with Ricky Carmichael) for most AMA Supercross/Motocross championships with 8 total. (McGrath 7 SX, 1 250MX/Carmichael 2 SX, 3 125MX, 3 250MX)

- Ranked 1st with most consecutive seasons with an AMA Supercross win at nine (Jeff Ward second with eight).

- Ranked 1st on all-time AMA 125 Regional Supercross wins list with 13.

Additional stats

- McGrath is one of only two riders (the other is Ron Lechien) to win AMA Supercross races with three manufacturers. McGrath won AMA Supercross events with Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha. (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 144 AMA Supercross races and won exactly half of them (.500 winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 95 AMA Motocross Nationals and won a total of 17 (.179 winning percentage).

- AMA Supercross/Motocross combined: 239 total races with 89 wins (.372 career winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- AMA 125 West Region Supercross: 31 career races with 13 wins (.419 winning percentage).

- McGrath's nationals wins by manufacturer: Honda, 60; Yamaha, 27; Suzuki 2. (Does not include 125 Supercross).



Prince - Haha, you're probably one of the very few moto enthusiasts that isn't a fan of MC. If that very small list of negative stats outweighs everything that MC has accomplished, then there's just no convincing you.

DBerg wrote:

MC 91 mx - 0 wins 125 92 mx- 0 wins 125 93 mx- 2 wins 125 94mx- 0 wins 250 95 mx- 7 wins 250...

MC 91 mx - 0 wins 125 92 mx- 0 wins 125

93 mx- 2 wins 125

94mx- 0 wins 250

95 mx- 7 wins 250 Defending champ is hurt, henry hurt, etc

96 mx 7 wins 250 faltered in last round

97 mx 0 wins

98 mx 1 win



Compared to....



- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series win list with 72 career victories.

- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series Championships list with seven titles.

- Ranked 1st with the single-season record of 14 AMA Supercross wins set in 1996.

- Ranked 1st with longest winning streak in AMA Supercross with 13 consecutive victories in 1996.

- Ranked 1st (tied with Ricky Carmichael) for most AMA Supercross/Motocross championships with 8 total. (McGrath 7 SX, 1 250MX/Carmichael 2 SX, 3 125MX, 3 250MX)

- Ranked 1st with most consecutive seasons with an AMA Supercross win at nine (Jeff Ward second with eight).

- Ranked 1st on all-time AMA 125 Regional Supercross wins list with 13.

Additional stats

- McGrath is one of only two riders (the other is Ron Lechien) to win AMA Supercross races with three manufacturers. McGrath won AMA Supercross events with Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha. (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 144 AMA Supercross races and won exactly half of them (.500 winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 95 AMA Motocross Nationals and won a total of 17 (.179 winning percentage).

- AMA Supercross/Motocross combined: 239 total races with 89 wins (.372 career winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- AMA 125 West Region Supercross: 31 career races with 13 wins (.419 winning percentage).

- McGrath's nationals wins by manufacturer: Honda, 60; Yamaha, 27; Suzuki 2. (Does not include 125 Supercross).



Prince - Haha, you're probably one of the very few moto enthusiasts that isn't a fan of MC. If that very small list of negative stats outweighs everything that MC has accomplished, then there's just no convincing you.

Prince1 wrote:

I hate what he did, SX only contracts!!! He could not win in MX at a regular basis so he chose to only race half the...

I hate what he did, SX only contracts!!! He could not win in MX at a regular basis so he chose to only race half the year, anyone else at the time would have taking alot of grief. What if LUSK just would have done only sx, or Henrey look at all his MX injurys, LaRocco, etc. His legacy on the sport of Motocross is he didnt race it and chose to only do SX. And those stats are from 2003, Bubba has a much better winning percentge than MC at SX. Every time he didnt win he had an excuse it wasnt the fact that he got beat , it was the bike, i didnt feel like training, etc, He is a unreal rider but the fact that he turned his back on MOTOCROSS, I cant look past that. Thank god for RC!!!! P.S. at this point in the career DUNGEY is leaps and bounds better than MC.

MotoGuido wrote:

I have the bar to bar 1997 video cassette baby! MC was a close second even with a flat at Charlotte!Jeremy McGrath is:- Ranked 1st on...

I have the bar to bar 1997 video cassette baby! MC was a close second even with a flat at Charlotte!




Jeremy McGrath is:

- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series win list with 72 career victories.

- Ranked 1st on the all-time AMA Supercross Series Championships list with seven titles.

- Ranked 1st on the all-time combined AMA Supercross/Motocross wins list with 89 career AMA national victories.

- Ranked 1st with the single-season record of 14 AMA Supercross wins set in 1996.

- Ranked 1st with longest winning streak in AMA Supercross with 13 consecutive victories in 1996.

- Ranked 1st (tied with Ricky Carmichael) for most AMA Supercross/Motocross championships with 8 total. (McGrath 7 SX, 1 250MX/Carmichael 2 SX, 3 125MX, 3 250MX)

- Ranked 1st with most consecutive seasons with an AMA Supercross win at nine (Jeff Ward second with eight).

- Ranked 1st on all-time AMA 125 Regional Supercross wins list with 13.



Additional stats



- McGrath is one of only two riders (the other is Ron Lechien) to win AMA Supercross races with three manufacturers. McGrath won AMA Supercross events with Honda, Suzuki and Yamaha. (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 144 AMA Supercross races and won exactly half of them (.500 winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- Raced in 95 AMA Motocross Nationals and won a total of 17 (.179 winning percentage).

- AMA Supercross/Motocross combined: 239 total races with 89 wins (.372 career winning percentage). (Does not include 125 Supercross).

- AMA 125 West Region Supercross: 31 career races with 13 wins (.419 winning percentage).

- McGrath's nationals wins by manufacturer: Honda, 60; Yamaha, 27; Suzuki 2. (Does not include 125 Supercross).
http://www.thumpertalk.com/...owthread.php?t=65013
/Thread.



Never bring up Ryan Bungey in the same sentence as McGrath again. Unless the sentence is, "Ryan Bungey cannot fill McGrath's shoes" or something similar. hahaha

Prince1 wrote:

Albertyn finished 2nd at daytona, and they dont show daytona on the bar to bars

chrisbuehler wrote:

Any other great comparisons between someone just starting their premier class career and one of the greatest rider's of all time? Jesus RD hasn't even scratched...

Any other great comparisons between someone just starting their premier class career and one of the greatest rider's of all time? Jesus RD hasn't even scratched the surface of what he's gonna accomplish. How about we compare him to som eone he actually racing against, like RV2. Oops that's just a landslide for the Boss.

chrisbuehler wrote:

Any other great comparisons between someone just starting their premier class career and one of the greatest rider's of all time? Jesus RD hasn't even scratched...

Any other great comparisons between someone just starting their premier class career and one of the greatest rider's of all time? Jesus RD hasn't even scratched the surface of what he's gonna accomplish. How about we compare him to som eone he actually racing against, like RV2. Oops that's just a landslide for the Boss.