When The Mechanic Of The Year Is Repping Your Brand!

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
Keep telling yourself that if that's what you need to make yourself sleep better at night.

Keep telling yourself that if that's what you need to make yourself sleep better at night.

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3strokemx wrote:
How are you defining Spam? Most social media sites/apps are fine with content creators plugging products, regardless of whether the company is a paid advertiser to the...

How are you defining Spam? 

Most social media sites/apps are fine with content creators plugging products, regardless of whether the company is a paid advertiser to the platform.  

The content creators bring traffic and traffic is important for selling ads.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay...

He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay for. 

I will say that he at least engages in other threads. I've seen others members/companies post things, leave/not engage, come back and post other things when it's convenient/benefits them, and leave again.

People post links here all the time. 

What's the specific issue? I don't get it.    Are we only allowed to share links for paid Vital advertisers?

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Herr Lich wrote:
Duffe is an arsehole who has drunk the Deegan kool aid and is loving it. Can someone tell him to fuck right off. Mechanics should be...

Duffe is an arsehole who has drunk the Deegan kool aid and is loving it. Can someone tell him to fuck right off. Mechanics should be seen and not heard. 

I've never seen or read an interview where duffee sounds like an asshole.  Seems like a pretty humble guy.

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Sully wrote:
Anytime Deegan is even marginally criticized, you come flying in like Captain Save-a-Ho, so you might want to lay off calling out other people for white...

Anytime Deegan is even marginally criticized, you come flying in like Captain Save-a-Ho, so you might want to lay off calling out other people for white knighting, lady.

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Gobbles up every drop. 

Gobbles up every drop. 

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PS- MotoXXX is sick, I remember it took months but my dad finally let me put a MOTOXXX sticker on his truck back when I was riding minis.

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3strokemx wrote:
How are you defining Spam? Most social media sites/apps are fine with content creators plugging products, regardless of whether the company is a paid advertiser to the...

How are you defining Spam? 

Most social media sites/apps are fine with content creators plugging products, regardless of whether the company is a paid advertiser to the platform.  

The content creators bring traffic and traffic is important for selling ads.

-MAVERICK- wrote:
He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay...

He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay for. 

I will say that he at least engages in other threads. I've seen others members/companies post things, leave/not engage, come back and post other things when it's convenient/benefits them, and leave again.

3strokemx wrote:

People post links here all the time. 

What's the specific issue? I don't get it.    Are we only allowed to share links for paid Vital advertisers?

Might be a difference between a random user posting a link while talking about a product vs. someone who owns a company only showing up here to shill their own product?

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3strokemx wrote:

People post links here all the time. 

What's the specific issue? I don't get it.    Are we only allowed to share links for paid Vital advertisers?

That's a question for @ML512 

I'll give it a shot. 

How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are the owners/staff of a company trying to drive traffic to their sites to try and gain sales versus members sharing links to articles, products, or videos to help other members or share information? 

The same applies to the people who start a thread just to drive site traffic to their YouTube channels in order to try and gain more followers. That's spam as well. 

One is posting/promoting for financial gain, and the other isn't. 

In case you or anyone wants to know what it costs to advertise:

https://www.vitalmedianet.com/vital-mx

Have a look and maybe you'll understand why spamming is frowned upon from Vital's business point of view. 

Vital's audience/traffic wasn't built overnight. There's a value associated to it and that's why companies pay to advertise here. Spamming/Not compensating Vital for that audience is not fair to them or their advertising partners. 

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3strokemx wrote:
How are you defining Spam? Most social media sites/apps are fine with content creators plugging products, regardless of whether the company is a paid advertiser to the...

How are you defining Spam? 

Most social media sites/apps are fine with content creators plugging products, regardless of whether the company is a paid advertiser to the platform.  

The content creators bring traffic and traffic is important for selling ads.

GrapeApe wrote:
Not a hill I'm going to die on but what happens when the paid advertisers realize they can just spam the forum for free?And I don't...

Not a hill I'm going to die on but what happens when the paid advertisers realize they can just spam the forum for free?

And I don't think the down votes are for spamming, I think they're for Duffe (or does he go by DFF now?). 

3strokemx wrote:

It's not apples to apples but other media platforms that allow companies to upload content for free seem to be doing OK financially. 
 

Those platforms need content creators to create traffic: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube…because they do not create original content.

We’re not the same as them, we create our own content.

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay...

He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay for. 

I will say that he at least engages in other threads. I've seen others members/companies post things, leave/not engage, come back and post other things when it's convenient/benefits them, and leave again.

3strokemx wrote:

People post links here all the time. 

What's the specific issue? I don't get it.    Are we only allowed to share links for paid Vital advertisers?

JazzyJJ wrote:
Might be a difference between a random user posting a link while talking about a product vs. someone who owns a company only showing up here...

Might be a difference between a random user posting a link while talking about a product vs. someone who owns a company only showing up here to shill their own product?

Correct.

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profmur wrote:
Was there a few races across sx and mx this year where deegans bike started smoking and he really had to back it down before it...

Was there a few races across sx and mx this year where deegans bike started smoking and he really had to back it down before it grenaded? 

For sure strange the mechanic for a bike that had issues throughout the season is given the mechanic of the year award 🤷‍♂️

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yak651 wrote:

For sure strange the mechanic for a bike that had issues throughout the season is given the mechanic of the year award 🤷‍♂️

250 West Coast Champion, 250 AMA National Champion. I’d say his bike, thanks to Duffe, held up just fine and the award was well deserved. 

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971_Fan wrote:
All good and fair. I understand that you got bills, and whatnot. While some may be downvoting because they see it as spam, I think there's...

All good and fair. I understand that you got bills, and whatnot. While some may be downvoting because they see it as spam, I think there's a bigger issue with the downvotes themselves-- a more fundamental problem. 

For example, one of your paid advertisers, EKS goggles (or at least did at one point), could post about a product, and they'd be downvoted into oblivion, and not just because they spammed. They'd like it even less if you supported them. 

But there's a difference between someone spamming the board in a clear attempt to get views or sell products, and a long time member who occasionally posts. Seems the latter should get a little more leeway.  Motoxxx has a cool history in the sport as you know. 

But I'm glad to hear you dont have a problem with them posting, per say, and was just explaining why you think they were downvoted. Thumbs up.  

 

Just so there is no misunderstanding and its 100% clear, I thumbs down everyone of your posts just because I think you are dick. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay...

He's put a link to his website no less than 100 times. That's a lot of free clicks using Vital's traffic that other companies usually pay for. 

I will say that he at least engages in other threads. I've seen others members/companies post things, leave/not engage, come back and post other things when it's convenient/benefits them, and leave again.

3strokemx wrote:

People post links here all the time. 

What's the specific issue? I don't get it.    Are we only allowed to share links for paid Vital advertisers?

JazzyJJ wrote:
Might be a difference between a random user posting a link while talking about a product vs. someone who owns a company only showing up here...

Might be a difference between a random user posting a link while talking about a product vs. someone who owns a company only showing up here to shill their own product?

Yeah I could see that, organic vs "marketed"
  
On one hand it would be pretty easy for companies to create an email and username so they could pump up their product as covert organic leads.  If they thought it was worth their time they would do it, maybe they do? 

On the same hand, I'd much rather have the company/person own their identity because it's transparent and opens up discussion regarding their brand and products.

 

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GrapeApe wrote:
Not a hill I'm going to die on but what happens when the paid advertisers realize they can just spam the forum for free?And I don't...

Not a hill I'm going to die on but what happens when the paid advertisers realize they can just spam the forum for free?

And I don't think the down votes are for spamming, I think they're for Duffe (or does he go by DFF now?). 

3strokemx wrote:

It's not apples to apples but other media platforms that allow companies to upload content for free seem to be doing OK financially. 
 

ML512 wrote:
Those platforms need content creators to create traffic: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube…because they do not create original content.We’re not the same as them, we create our...

Those platforms need content creators to create traffic: Instagram, Twitter, Facebook, YouTube…because they do not create original content.

We’re not the same as them, we create our own content.

You don't consider the forum "content creators"?  Or is the forum only responsible for a small portion of your traffic?

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seth505 wrote:
Updated for 2025  PS- MotoXXX is sick, I remember it took months but my dad finally let me put a MOTOXXX sticker on his truck back when...

Updated for 2025

 

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PS- MotoXXX is sick, I remember it took months but my dad finally let me put a MOTOXXX sticker on his truck back when I was riding minis.

Hopefully your moto skills are better than your photoshop skills, but I doubt it. 

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lostboy819 wrote:
Just so there is no misunderstanding and its 100% clear, I thumbs down everyone of your posts just because I think you are dick. 

Just so there is no misunderstanding and its 100% clear, I thumbs down everyone of your posts just because I think you are dick. 

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Incorrect. You thumbs down them because you’re a loser. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. 

Maybe instead of expending energy on disliking a user, you could contribute to the forum in a more positive way. 

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3strokemx wrote:

You don't consider the forum "content creators"?  Or is the forum only responsible for a small portion of your traffic?

I would think the forum itself creates quite a bit of traffic. Take this thread for example.  People come to the forum to get the latest news, rumors, information on various topics related to moto.

Links are posted here quite a bit, from gofund to videos from other content creators. Spamming is one thing, but the occasional link from a well established member is another. 

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-MAVERICK- wrote:
That's a question for @ML512 I'll give it a shot. How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are...

That's a question for @ML512 

I'll give it a shot. 

How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are the owners/staff of a company trying to drive traffic to their sites to try and gain sales versus members sharing links to articles, products, or videos to help other members or share information? 

The same applies to the people who start a thread just to drive site traffic to their YouTube channels in order to try and gain more followers. That's spam as well. 

One is posting/promoting for financial gain, and the other isn't. 

In case you or anyone wants to know what it costs to advertise:

https://www.vitalmedianet.com/vital-mx

Have a look and maybe you'll understand why spamming is frowned upon from Vital's business point of view. 

Vital's audience/traffic wasn't built overnight. There's a value associated to it and that's why companies pay to advertise here. Spamming/Not compensating Vital for that audience is not fair to them or their advertising partners. 

How about a promoter posting information about their upcoming race?  Is that spam?

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lostboy819 wrote:
Just so there is no misunderstanding and its 100% clear, I thumbs down everyone of your posts just because I think you are dick. 

Just so there is no misunderstanding and its 100% clear, I thumbs down everyone of your posts just because I think you are dick. 

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971_Fan wrote:
Incorrect. You thumbs down them because you’re a loser. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe instead of expending energy on disliking a user, you could contribute to...

Incorrect. You thumbs down them because you’re a loser. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. 

Maybe instead of expending energy on disliking a user, you could contribute to the forum in a more positive way. 

Ha! The irony here is thick. 

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971_Fan wrote:
Incorrect. You thumbs down them because you’re a loser. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe instead of expending energy on disliking a user, you could contribute to...

Incorrect. You thumbs down them because you’re a loser. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. 

Maybe instead of expending energy on disliking a user, you could contribute to the forum in a more positive way. 

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No matter how soft ML is, I still love ya MotoXXX!

 

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971_Fan wrote:
Incorrect. You thumbs down them because you’re a loser. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Maybe instead of expending energy on disliking a user, you could contribute to...

Incorrect. You thumbs down them because you’re a loser. The two aren’t mutually exclusive. 

Maybe instead of expending energy on disliking a user, you could contribute to the forum in a more positive way. 

lostboy819 wrote:
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He dropped his pacifier. 😆

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That's a question for @ML512 I'll give it a shot. How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are...

That's a question for @ML512 

I'll give it a shot. 

How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are the owners/staff of a company trying to drive traffic to their sites to try and gain sales versus members sharing links to articles, products, or videos to help other members or share information? 

The same applies to the people who start a thread just to drive site traffic to their YouTube channels in order to try and gain more followers. That's spam as well. 

One is posting/promoting for financial gain, and the other isn't. 

In case you or anyone wants to know what it costs to advertise:

https://www.vitalmedianet.com/vital-mx

Have a look and maybe you'll understand why spamming is frowned upon from Vital's business point of view. 

Vital's audience/traffic wasn't built overnight. There's a value associated to it and that's why companies pay to advertise here. Spamming/Not compensating Vital for that audience is not fair to them or their advertising partners. 

3strokemx wrote:

How about a promoter posting information about their upcoming race?  Is that spam?

It’s really not that hard to understand, you’re making it complicated.

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seth505 wrote:
Updated for 2025  PS- MotoXXX is sick, I remember it took months but my dad finally let me put a MOTOXXX sticker on his truck back when...

Updated for 2025

 

image 2053

 

PS- MotoXXX is sick, I remember it took months but my dad finally let me put a MOTOXXX sticker on his truck back when I was riding minis.

971_Fan wrote:

Hopefully your moto skills are better than your photoshop skills, but I doubt it. 

I'm so highly skilled, I didn't even use photoshop for that.  I wouldn't invest that kind of time in this tomfoolery.

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8/29/2025 12:05pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2025 12:06pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
That's a question for @ML512 I'll give it a shot. How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are...

That's a question for @ML512 

I'll give it a shot. 

How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are the owners/staff of a company trying to drive traffic to their sites to try and gain sales versus members sharing links to articles, products, or videos to help other members or share information? 

The same applies to the people who start a thread just to drive site traffic to their YouTube channels in order to try and gain more followers. That's spam as well. 

One is posting/promoting for financial gain, and the other isn't. 

In case you or anyone wants to know what it costs to advertise:

https://www.vitalmedianet.com/vital-mx

Have a look and maybe you'll understand why spamming is frowned upon from Vital's business point of view. 

Vital's audience/traffic wasn't built overnight. There's a value associated to it and that's why companies pay to advertise here. Spamming/Not compensating Vital for that audience is not fair to them or their advertising partners. 

3strokemx wrote:

How about a promoter posting information about their upcoming race?  Is that spam?

ML512 wrote:

It’s really not that hard to understand, you’re making it complicated.

Are you saying race promoters shouldn't post about their events because it would leverage your forum traffic and the promoter didn't pay for advertising?

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8/29/2025 12:10pm Edited Date/Time 8/29/2025 12:13pm
-MAVERICK- wrote:
That's a question for @ML512 I'll give it a shot. How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are...

That's a question for @ML512 

I'll give it a shot. 

How many of those people who start a thread or post a comment and drop links are the owners/staff of a company trying to drive traffic to their sites to try and gain sales versus members sharing links to articles, products, or videos to help other members or share information? 

The same applies to the people who start a thread just to drive site traffic to their YouTube channels in order to try and gain more followers. That's spam as well. 

One is posting/promoting for financial gain, and the other isn't. 

In case you or anyone wants to know what it costs to advertise:

https://www.vitalmedianet.com/vital-mx

Have a look and maybe you'll understand why spamming is frowned upon from Vital's business point of view. 

Vital's audience/traffic wasn't built overnight. There's a value associated to it and that's why companies pay to advertise here. Spamming/Not compensating Vital for that audience is not fair to them or their advertising partners. 

3strokemx wrote:

How about a promoter posting information about their upcoming race?  Is that spam?

ML512 wrote:

It’s really not that hard to understand, you’re making it complicated.

No its not, 3stroke is just looking to argue. 🤔I thinks he's the bastard child of 971 fan, and Magoo fan. You know what so sad thats its funny ? that both 971 fan and Magoo fan both have "fan" in their user name. 

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3strokemx wrote:

How about a promoter posting information about their upcoming race?  Is that spam?

ML512 wrote:

It’s really not that hard to understand, you’re making it complicated.

lostboy819 wrote:
No its not, 3stroke is just looking to argue. 🤔I thinks he's the bastard child of 971 fan, and Magoo fan. You know what so sad...

No its not, 3stroke is just looking to argue. 🤔I thinks he's the bastard child of 971 fan, and Magoo fan. You know what so sad thats its funny ? that both 971 fan and Magoo fan both have "fan" in their user name. 

How exactly is a race promoter posting a link different from MotoXXX posting a link?

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3strokemx wrote:

How exactly is a race promoter posting a link different from MotoXXX posting a link?

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3strokemx wrote:

How exactly is a race promoter posting a link different from MotoXXX posting a link?

lostboy819 wrote:
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If it's such an obvious answer then you should be able to answer it easily...........    but since you started with the insults it looks like you're unable to answer.

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The content creators bring traffic and traffic is important for selling ads.

That's a real good one.
If everyone who has something to sell opens a thread about his products and teh cool people who wear them, who's gonna buy ads?
 


 

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He dropped his pacifier. 😆

He dropped his pacifier. 😆

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That’s because I was stunned when I saw yours. 

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